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post Aug 12, 2003 - 4:10 AM
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QUOTE (phat94celi @ Aug 11, 2003 - 7:59 PM)
Why do an AWD conversion when RWD is much more fun! biggrin.gif

And it will be.

lol, why not get a 240 then?


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post Aug 12, 2003 - 12:53 PM
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k - time to settle this debate...

Converting to AWD isnt worth it...period.

Trust me I know I did this conversion almost 2 years ago.

1st off.. you dont need the GT4 floor boards.. that is Jarco or toysport trying to sell more parts. Relocating the gastank and cutting out ur sparetire well will do the job just fine.

2nd... Im not sure if you can even do this in the 96-99 celicas, that depends on how the exhaust is ran.. the 94-95's are already tunneled for a driveshaft except the exhaust runs thought that area so you have to relocate it.

3rd... most of the rear axle will fit fine on the rear but you will need springs and struts for the GT4. we did have to do a couple of welds to fully support the rear end though and that is where we messed up.

when we welded the rear axle we where off on our measurements by just 2 to 3 degrees and what would happen is the rear end would try and steer the car to the right... which gets kinda scary at 100+ mph.

an alignment to counter this would help but only for about 1-2 weeks.. It just became too much of a hassle to keep up with it, so when I tore my car apart this last time I took the time to weigh my options and after about 6 months of debating which way to go.. and a nice offer for the rearend parts, I decided to scrap the awd and just return to FWD.


Point is.. YES IT CAN BE DONE... but is it worth it? I dont really think so but if you could have a shop do it and make sure everything is dead one then yea go for it.


BTW as for using a 5th gen alltrac rearend.. I would believe this would work just fine.. have been told that the rear axle is almost identical to the 6th gen one the only problem I could think off that you would run into is the drive shaft not being the right length but a good transmission or machine shop would be able to make a new driveshaft for 100-200 range.


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post Aug 12, 2003 - 7:16 PM
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QUOTE (97sccelica @ Aug 12, 2003 - 2:10 AM)
QUOTE (phat94celi @ Aug 11, 2003 - 7:59 PM)
Why do an AWD conversion when RWD is much more fun! biggrin.gif

And it will be.

lol, why not get a 240 then?

Because a 6th gen Celi looks 10x's better than a 240 IMHO.


Neverstop--Have you ever posted any pics of your car when it had the AWD conversion? Do you have any?
post Aug 12, 2003 - 10:22 PM
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my 97 has the well for the drive shaft.

and my exhaust is in it too.


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post Aug 15, 2003 - 8:54 PM
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QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Aug 12, 2003 - 10:53 AM)
when we welded the rear axle we where off on our measurements by just 2 to 3 degrees and what would happen is the rear end would try and steer the car to the right... which gets kinda scary at 100+ mph.


off two or three degrees???


do you mean inches, centimeters? what?


also I am doing this as well


its a lot harder than people say how hard it is on here

from a lot of people that i have talked to (Mike, E.L. Prototypes, etc.) they all say (and i agree) that you cant use 5th gen parts. you MUST use the floor from a ST205 because like everyone says the align must be right on. The reason that the ST205 floor works is because all the mounting points for the rear end and driveshaft are already there.


post Aug 16, 2003 - 7:14 PM
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QUOTE (GT2GT4 @ Aug 15, 2003 - 6:54 PM)
QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Aug 12, 2003 - 10:53 AM)
when we welded the rear axle we where off on our measurements by just 2 to 3 degrees and what would happen is the rear end would try and steer the car to the right... which gets kinda scary at 100+ mph.


off two or three degrees???


do you mean inches, centimeters? what?


also I am doing this as well


its a lot harder than people say how hard it is on here

from a lot of people that i have talked to (Mike, E.L. Prototypes, etc.) they all say (and i agree) that you cant use 5th gen parts. you MUST use the floor from a ST205 because like everyone says the align must be right on. The reason that the ST205 floor works is because all the mounting points for the rear end and driveshaft are already there.

the rear differential is all that is interchangeable between the 5th gen and 6th gen.

other then that, you wont be able to use 5th gen parts.

the floor pan is a must because of what gt2gt4 said, it has the diff. mounting points.

its a lot of work and should not be taken lightly. any one that is mechanically inclined could do it, but you would need the tools, the time, and the money.


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