Rims angled in relation to ground., Whats the deal??? Options

[TunerHawk]

This might sound like a juvenile question, but I have seen rims on cars that seemed to be "angled" on the car. Intead of the tire being perpendicular (90 degrees) in relation to the road, the tire is on a slant of like 85 degrees. Does anyone know what I am talking about? I have noticed this trend on alot of Nissans, like the skylines and 240's. If anyone could enlighten me on this subject I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

-Brandon-

This post has been edited by TunerHawk: Aug 8, 2003 - 2:44 AM

[3TST]

It's all to do with the lowering the suspension and tire/wheel size.
I don't know the techie bit but basically to rectify the situation you need to get a camber alignment kit.

[macavely]

yea i know what you are talking about... just look at a F1 racer... and you'll figuer it out..

[TunerHawk]

Thats a camber adjustment issue? Really? Let me get a pic. Is this a camber adjustment or rim fitting? What is the purpose of this? Thanks all.

This post has been edited by TunerHawk: Aug 8, 2003 - 11:08 PM

[phat94celi]

When the wheel is leaning in, it is called negative camber. To a certain degree, it will help the car handle better. But, it is harder on the tires and will make the inside edge wear out faster than the outside edge. Positive camber is the opposite. Wheels lean out, can handles ****ty and the outside edge wears faster than the inside edge.

-Kaleb

[TunerHawk]

Hey thanks alot. I need to know that, i was kinda getting stressed. So does are car handle better with negative camber adjustment or not. Has anyone tried this? Well this is all assuming I can find rims that match the offset and are hub-centrific and actually ride nice. Thanks.

[phat94celi]

To a certain degree, some negative camber will help. In fact, our stock suspension setup probably has some negaitve camber from the factory. A little more would help the car handle a little better, but will wear the tires faster.

-Kaleb

[SpedToe169]

Camber alone doesn't wear tires very fast. I've been running 2deg of neg camber for 2 years on the street and its no big deal. Toe settings become more critical when running a lot of negative camber tho. A little toe out with some negative camber will wear tires REALLY fast. The best street alignment setup I've found for the 6th gen is about 2deg or 2.25deg of neg camber in the front, 1.5 in the back and 0 toe all around. Theres not enough adjustment in the celica to put 'too much' camber in and make the car handle worse. We've run over 5 deg neg at times on our World-Challenge cars.

[kuya1284]

[SpedToe169]

Butterfly? You just made that up didn't you Kuya?

Don't ever call it 'butterfly' within 500ft of a race track or you risk getting laughed at. Its called camber to the rest of us.

Excessive camber after lowering a car is due to poor suspension geometry which the 6th gen celica doesn't have to worry about much. Hondas however....suck royally in that regard.

[kuya1284]

[SpedToe169]

ok, as long as you don't have some kind of gesture to go with it every time you say 'butterfly'.