building an MR2 Turbo, got some questions Options

[Valo666]

So a friend of mine who was like a die-hard Honda boy, decided he wanted to get a new car and get rid of his rice rocket civic. So after some looking, he managed to find a 92 JDM MR2. The car is already registered and driveable, but the guy whos selling it, for what ever reason is missing some parts off it, aka front fenders, t-top glass, and rear 1/4 pannel glass. But the motor and every thing else is prefectly fine with it. So hes taking care of gettin the new parts *his parents own a bodyshop*. So he wants me (since im the only toyota guy in windsor), to build up his car for him. Hes got like..7K to drop into it..lol. So he wants to build up some power in the engine, make the interior nice, and hes taking care of the exteior and paint. So for engine stuff, he wants to make some decent HP...around 230ish. So, im thinkin that for the engine build, since im in charge of that, we r gonna go with a intercooler kit probably by Spearco, or Blitz, HKS SSQV, Apexi intake, AEM EMS, Apexi turbo timer, autometer or defi gauges, HKS cam gears, Blitz Downpipe and Nur Spec exhaust, CryO2 intercooler sprayer, and i donno what for a boost controller. I was wondering what you guys think of that setup. He wants to run around 12PSI daily driven safely, but still b able to crank up the boost for when he wants it. I know its an MR2, so making boost safely and being able to cool it down is an issue, hense why we r gonna go with the CO2 spray. But any suggestions for a boost controller thats adjustable from the cabin. I was thinkin the AEM tru-boost system, but the only thing is about that is instead of giving a boost reading (ie 10PSI, 14PSI), it gives a % after stock boost...so if your running 7psi stock, on the gauge it says 25%..so its that 7psi+25% of it. Im also thinkin about the Pro-Fec B...but i dunno much about that.

For suspension im gonna b going with TEIN coilovers with EDFC and ST suspension sway bars, and for wheels we r either thinkin OEM MKIV Supra TT 17's or a set 5Zigen FN01R-C's in 17.

For exterior styling, we r gonna do Kouki tails, TOM'S style airscoope, Supra style side vents, Kouki front lip, TRD extensions..and i dunno what hes planning on doing for front fenders and side skirts.

Interior, Defi or Autometer gauges, gonna hide all the little things like the boost controller, turbo timer, cabel for the computer connection to the EMS, etc in the compartment between the seats, audio is his department, Nardi Steering wheel, and probably some sparco single peice seats.

What do you guys think??

We r headin back to toronto tomorrow to take a look/pickup the car and then most likely gonna b buying the parts tomorrow aswell.

[zachattack15]

Go to ATS racing and send them your turbo and computer and let them rebuild it to a ct-27 and rom tun the ecu. They have packages that are dyno proven. Im in the process of sending my turbo off right now 300 hp here I come !

[lagos]

dont bother with co2 sprayers, they really dont do much.

here is what i would do.
install a celica water to air intercooler. all the sidemounts for the mr2 are terribly small. then buy a used jdm ecu, and a 50$ twosRs mbc. turn up the boost to 15psi, and take the car to a dyno. youll surpass his 230hp goal and save him a crap load of money.

[Valo666]

Go to ATS racing and send them your turbo and computer and let them rebuild it to a ct-27 and rom tun the ecu. They have packages that are dyno proven. Im in the process of sending my turbo off right now 300 hp here I come !

i would say we should do that but he wants his car to be driven right away..well..within 2 weeks of buying it.

dont bother with co2 sprayers, they really dont do much.

here is what i would do.
install a celica water to air intercooler. all the sidemounts for the mr2 are terribly small. then buy a used jdm ecu, and a 50$ twosRs mbc. turn up the boost to 15psi, and take the car to a dyno. youll surpass his 230hp goal and save him a crap load of money.

its a JDM car art...so it already has a JDM computer..lol. But he wants to go with a side mount not a topmount. Im not 100% sure if i would go with a pre-made kit with a pre-made intercooler or get one built. But i have a friend with an MR2 and he swears his life on intercooler sprayers.

[lagos]

if you want a sidemount, then buy the berk kit. everything else is going to be very over priced. then you can add in a 200$ water injection kit. it will benefit you more then any co2 ic sprayer, and cost a lot less.

then get the berk 3in dowpipe and 3in exhaust.

then the next step would be to get a ct20b or a ct27, if he wants to make even more power.

check this out too, if you haven't read it already...
http://www.mrcontrols.com/primers/power.htm

This post has been edited by lagos: Sep 30, 2007 - 3:27 PM

[Glitch001]

This might be a better question for mr2oc but im going to go ahead and ask...

He wants a built car in 2 weeks for 7k?
Not going to happen, take your time or blow your stuff up. The prices between the brand names you have mentioned are huge. Autometer vs. Defi, Spearco vs. Berk.

Look if you want bang for your buck, I wouldnt shoot for more than 240-285hp.
Ive doubled that on my mr2 and its way to much.


Hes a honda boy asking to boost power, so the first thing you should do is NOT listen to him and make him do brakes.

93'' Toyota Mr2 brakes will be perfect, new rotors and some good pads and some ss lines
Berk side mount
ct-27 or a td06 is your best turbo choice (if you go td06 get an ex wastegate just incase)
3'' downpipe
Some decent tires on your rims. Just snag some azenis, cheapy racing tires so he can learn hes not driving a Honda anymore.
If your die hard on nur spec understand at WOT your going to bleed from the ears, I sold mine asap
I use a Blitz SBC ID w/ power meter for bling but any EBC will do.
If you REALLY are going Standalone ECU, dont go Apex-i Intake, get a KO Racing or Turbohoses Velocity Stack, ditch that AFM asap.
Dont do toms scoops, just please.
Dont bother with Co2, just get a Joe's Water Injection Kit

Which TEIN are you going with? Flex? Super Street? Etc.?
Shop around, TRD pillow ball mounts are the only ones that arn't metal on metal
TRD Struts and sways should be obvious

Not sure in what you mean by "Supra style" but if your reffering to removal of that line in the side vent, 2 sideskirts do it.
Greddy and Toms, or you could shop around for just the vent on ebay.

[Valo666]

ok..pretty much, hes buyin every thing, tellin me what he wants in the engine bay, im just puttin things together and gettin the parts for him. We r planning on building it. He doesnt wanna do any thing majour just bolt on stuff for now. the TOMS airscoop is what he wants...hes doing all of the exterior upgrade. We r gonna b just using parts we can get easily/instock at JRP in toronto. Ive checked with them, most of the stuff he wants is instock and if not, it can b there b4 next weekend, so i can go pick it up when im home for thanks giving. I would b down for going with Berk stuff, or twos'r us, or spending time to find TRD stuff, but he just wants this car build up motor and inteiror wise within 2 weeks b4 he brings it into his dad's autobody shop and does the exterior. And as for power and him being a honda boy and make sure he can handel the power and not give him boost right away, hes got a K20 EG hatch right now thats pushing 240 and change HP.

I think that building this car within 2 weeks is perfectly possible. Im not working right now, so i got my entire day and my own big garge with all the tools i could need except for a cherry picker *i can borow that from my friend if need be*. I think that 2 weeks is nothing. I mean intercooler, intakes, standalone, etc...all bolt on stuff. Its not like im gonna b yanking the entire motor and overhauling it.

[lagos]

but... the problem is that your friend is going to spend money on things that will not benefit him very much.
you dont need a standalone ecu for this car, until you get closer to a 300hp power goal. this isn't and NA car with some trubo kit on it. the stock ecu does a good job (for the most part) under 300hp.

you can meet and beat the 230hp goal on the stock motor, turbo, ecu, etc...

here is what i would do:
upgrade the intercooler, exhaust, downpipe
keep the stock bov (no ricer noises, but best performance)
go with a blitz dual selnoid ebc
get the devils own water injection kit
at this point, the car would be putting down around 240hp

then you have to decide if you want to upgrade the turbo or not. ct20b or 27 are nice because you can keep your downpipe, and stock ecu. you can make about 280hp on this setup.

if your friend still wants more power, then he would have to look into any of the turbo kits from ats, koracing, speed source, etc... at that point he will probably need bigger injectors as well as go to a stand alone. all of this can be done within his budget.

This post has been edited by lagos: Sep 30, 2007 - 7:29 PM

[Valo666]

its alright...the sale fell through...we were about to drive 3.5 hours to go to give this guy the $ and pick it up and then he bumped the price up to $4K...then he said he cant sell it cuz his mom wouldnt let him...so we are off the MR2 project for a bit...right now hes planning on buyin an N/A MR2 and a turbo rear clip. So we will have to tackel the swap b4 the build. Now hes thinkin he might wanna upgrade the turbo too...so if any thing it would probably be upgrading to a CT20B just because i got a friend of mine who has tons of 3S parts laying around his place after he swaped a 3rd Gen into his AW11.