cams are here, webcams - pics and dyno pics yay Options

[Kadett]

hmm, how much work you done on it (intake & filter, full exhaust, cams)
pretty good for the miles its done, nice and smooth

how much are you losing through the gearbox?
I lose 10kw, but I still hold 147HP(with just an air filter)

good to compare when you turbo it.

Little bit unfair to compare a 3S-GE to a 5S-FE

[presure2]

ok here's the pics.



the cams





and my nose



now the real info



now my motor has 156K miles on it and my compression was low, but consistant.

here's a comparison was another 5s, 1998 51K miles on it



and some #s info



and the INFO

my 5s topped out at 123whp and 126ft/lbs of torque.

on the 1998 stock 5s (intake) at 4700 RPMs it doesn't make any more power, it drops hp like a rock. My 1995 156K 5s continues to make hp. I peaked out close to redline and CONTINUED TO MAKE POWER until then. So at redline (about 6000 RPMs) I had about 123hp while the stock had The stock 5s 103hp. As for torque, the 98 drops off at 4700 and mine continued hold out longer. I had 110ft/lbs of torque and the stock 98 had 92ft/lbs.

The bottom line is I didn't dyno my car before the cams were installed so I don't know exactly were I'm starting from. From the research I've done they seem to average around 105-110hp to the wheels. If my motor was in peak condition like the 98 then I have gained about 10hp to the wheels. The important thing here is my car now holds the power later in the RPM band and where any other stock 5s drops off, my car continues to make power, right to redline.

now when I turbo...

dustin, heres a better view for you and the guys.
this is my run #8, when the car was fully warmed up and heated like yours was.
the red line is a stock 98 5sfe with a injen short ram intake, the blue is dustins 95 with cams.



again guys, i really cant emphisise how much of a diffrence these cams made in his powerband.
webcams did a very good job on them.
these cams are perfect for th n/a 5s. keeps 99% of the low end we love, and makes a HUGE diffrence up top, where the 5s normally falls on its face.
now that we've found at least one place that can do cams for the 5s sucsessfully, im working on getting a set from another company that can do them as well, only the ones im having done will be done with the 5sfte in mind.
if that goes well, we "may" be able to set up a group buy on them, both for n/a and turbo 5s'

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[Rayme]

thats great, not much top HP gain but you gain more usable power in the end.

who needs vtec?

[lagos]

thats great, not much top HP gain but you gain more usable power in the end.

who needs vtec?

He gained 20hp. Thats A LOT for an NA 4cly motor.

[jcbass7]

nice stuff dustin!

notice the difference at 6k, almost 25 hp. thats awesome

[Rayme]

thats great, not much top HP gain but you gain more usable power in the end.

who needs vtec?

He gained 20hp. Thats A LOT for an NA 4cly motor.

heyy I know I say top (or peak), not insulting the guy!

[Rusty]

Little bit unfair to compare a 3S-GE to a 5S-FE

Ohh I meant this dyno and compare when he turbo's it

[6strngs]

dustin, heres a better view for you and the guys.
this is my run #8, when the car was fully warmed up and heated like yours was.
the red line is a stock 98 5sfe with a injen short ram intake, the blue is dustins 95 with cams.



again guys, i really cant emphisise how much of a diffrence these cams made in his powerband.
webcams did a very good job on them.
these cams are perfect for th n/a 5s. keeps 99% of the low end we love, and makes a HUGE diffrence up top, where the 5s normally falls on its face.
now that we've found at least one place that can do cams for the 5s sucsessfully, im working on getting a set from another company that can do them as well, only the ones im having done will be done with the 5sfte in mind.
if that goes well, we "may" be able to set up a group buy on them, both for n/a and turbo 5s'

ok, that dyno chart makes it look a lot better. And I'm def. interested in some cams, the only thing stopping me from the web cams is the price. they are something like $650 aren't they?

[jcbass7]

650 for an addition to the power curve like that, if i had my coupe still (5s) id be installing those right now!

[Batman722]

^^ that's a great comparison there Manny. That does show a clearer view of the curves and the shift/gians in power. From 4000rpms on, I have any 5s beat hands down.

[x_itchy_b_x]

turn the boost up! nice gains man. thats some good power for an NA 5s.

[presure2]

6strings:
yup, ~ 650 for the pair.
in comparison, a set of cams for the 3s goes for just about the same price.
i working with another company to have a set done for the turbo 5s, they should be ~ 200$ cheaper.

[jesterwr217]

are there any for the 7a?

[LewFX]

hurley is getting some for her 7a

[stetsonaw]

presure2, you say there are some for a 3s. where can i get them, for a good price?

[6strngs]

6strings:
yup, ~ 650 for the pair.
in comparison, a set of cams for the 3s goes for just about the same price.
i working with another company to have a set done for the turbo 5s, they should be ~ 200$ cheaper.

the other set you are working on, are they hardwelded like the webcams or reground? I've heard that TED components cams only cost around $200 for both cams, it's a regrind though and you have to use thicker shims.

[lagos]

presure2, you say there are some for a 3s. where can i get them, for a good price?

hks makes them. you can get them from ebay, ats racing, etc...

[Rusty]

what HP gain are we talking with cams in a 3S-GE? simular line veriation

[presure2]

6strings:
yup, ~ 650 for the pair.
in comparison, a set of cams for the 3s goes for just about the same price.
i working with another company to have a set done for the turbo 5s, they should be ~ 200$ cheaper.

the other set you are working on, are they hardwelded like the webcams or reground? I've heard that TED components cams only cost around $200 for both cams, it's a regrind though and you have to use thicker shims.

you need to use larger shims with the webcams as well.
the colt cams are reground, and geoff includes oversized shims.

[elvasoshexai]

so how do these performance cams affect driveability?