Short Ram or Cold Air, can't decide!! need help! |
Short Ram or Cold Air, can't decide!! need help! |
Oct 5, 2007 - 11:40 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '07 From Skokie, Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Alright well i looked aroun the forum and looked at some videos of intakes, i love the sound of the short ram, sounds so nice, but also the CAI i wouldnt mind, i just cant make up my mind. any suggestions? performance is not really an issue for me
-------------------- '95 Celica ST Coupe. Love it.
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Oct 5, 2007 - 11:55 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 4, '06 From Kelowna, BC Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
QUOTE(lx130 @ Oct 5, 2007 - 11:40 AM) [snapback]602058[/snapback] Alright well i looked aroun the forum and looked at some videos of intakes, i love the sound of the short ram, sounds so nice, but also the CAI i wouldnt mind, i just cant make up my mind. any suggestions? performance is not really an issue for me Then it's up to personal preference. They are both going to sound roughly the same. If you use the accord intake, the sound appears to come from your front left tire rather than the engine. The SRI filter is easier to access to clean/replace. The CAI has more pipe which can look hot! -------------------- |
Oct 5, 2007 - 12:31 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 8, '07 From Houston, Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
ehh if you like a lot of pipe
I don't feel a difference, and there are many opposing views on what gives you more benefit. I truly believe the heat difference between the SRI and CAI isn't that much so it doesn't matter. You could do what I did and buy the accord CAI and just make it an SRI. Oh, I went and bought a new filter too because the one that comes with it is only steel mesh. -------------------- |
Oct 5, 2007 - 12:33 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 28, '05 From Redondo Beach, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 86 (100%) |
medium cai, use stock box, drop in k&n filter, remove bottom reservior...good response, cold air.
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Oct 5, 2007 - 12:49 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 11, '07 From Corona, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
QUOTE(LewFX @ Oct 5, 2007 - 12:33 PM) [snapback]602089[/snapback] medium cai, use stock box, drop in k&n filter, remove bottom reservior...good response, cold air. x2. before i changed to a short ram (more for aesthetics for me, but cold piping coming soon) i took out that bottom reservoir in front of the driver wheel. it's alot less restricting that having it on n it lets some cool air in. -------------------- Pandelica 2.0 in progress. |
Oct 5, 2007 - 11:09 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '07 From Skokie, Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
arite thanks guys, i got some intake piping lying around in my garage, recently had a CRX made my own cold air on it, so i got some extra lying around, i guess ill just see what i can come up with!
-------------------- '95 Celica ST Coupe. Love it.
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Oct 6, 2007 - 12:53 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 14, '07 From Corona Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i have a question, what is a good brand to get? what companies make intakes for the 1.8l?
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Oct 6, 2007 - 3:16 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 11, '07 From Corona, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
i THINK injen makes a CAI for the ST model
not sure, but you could double check.. **just checkd** GT only -------------------- Pandelica 2.0 in progress. |
Oct 6, 2007 - 8:20 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 20, '06 From Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 44 (100%) |
CAI is generally a few. more hp but a short ram gives you more throttle response.. i'd rather have the throttle reponse over 2-3 hp.
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Oct 6, 2007 - 9:01 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 10, '07 From lodi, ca Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
i have the injen sri on my st and the carb sticker throws cops off lol so i woudl sujest that if u dont want trouble they see a carb sticker and dont bother to check if its for the st or gt hehehe i love the sound it makes esp at a stop makes it sound like u have more then u have hahaha but i was thinking about making a quick release for the drivers side high beam so u can disconect it and remove it easly and put the cone right in the hole to make a forced induction for "raceing" purposes lol if u can even race a st hehe but i wanted to see if ne one else had done it and see if its even worth doing. that woudl the the most cold air for your buck and wouldnt look to bad if u had a nice looking filter instead of a highbeam lol
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Oct 6, 2007 - 9:43 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 3, '07 From Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I agree w/ Lew about his method. I tried it at first, and it is better...but you don't really get a sound difference ,so then I did what chinaman did and modded the 93 CAI to make a custom SRI. I love the sound and it does have good throttle resopnse as well. (but I took the stock reservoir out) I didn't want to mess with CAI and worry about possible hydrolock...and its more expensive buying a bypass valve to prevent that.
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Oct 8, 2007 - 6:49 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 16, '06 From Findlay,Oh Currently Offline Reputation: -1 (33%) |
hey man i have had 3 diffrent types of intakes on my 95 st...1st i did a short ram, cold air, and ive also used just a filter on the throttle boddy..from my experiance the short ram sounds the best its a deep growl power gains wore resonable...the cold air seemd to give more hp at higher rmps than the short ram but the short ram seemded to get up off the line faster than the cold air..more tourqe than hp. last having the filter right on the end of the throttle body seemded to be were u would get the best response were ever the rpms were n had its own sounds.....just depends if ur looking for higher rpm gains to pull harder or more tourqe for getting off the line and up to speed faster...
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Oct 8, 2007 - 7:56 AM |
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Moderator Joined Oct 13, '06 From UK Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
Go for Short Ram. Despite what people say, there is very little performance difference between any of them, might as well get the one that sounds coolest
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Oct 9, 2007 - 11:43 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 22, '07 From Buckinghamshire, UK Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Here is a pic of mine. It is the longest part of the 1997 - 2001 Hyundai Tiburon 2.0 CAI. I have attached a K&N Filter. This roars. also, I have a pipe feeding from bumper vent.
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Oct 10, 2007 - 4:45 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 10, '07 From Los Angeles, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
the only thing i heard bad about cold air is that water could stuck up into your motor, so it depends how long your piping is. that why i prefer short ram less to worry about.
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Oct 10, 2007 - 5:29 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 22, '07 From Buckinghamshire, UK Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
mate i live in England, and it rains like there is no tomorrow. i'm all good. Fit an install similar to mine shown up. you'll be ok.
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Oct 12, 2007 - 7:27 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 22, '07 From phoenix, AZ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(jcbass7 @ Oct 6, 2007 - 1:20 PM) [snapback]602337[/snapback] CAI is generally a few. more hp but a short ram gives you more throttle response.. i'd rather have the throttle reponse over 2-3 hp. definately agree you jc. even if cai gives you 2-3 ponys maybe, id rather have a sri that i know is doing something because i can tell when i drive with it. besides throttle response and torque seems little more practical to me. (and sri is so much cheaper!) QUOTE(punkuup5150 @ Oct 7, 2007 - 2:01 AM) [snapback]602462[/snapback] i have the injen sri on my st and the carb sticker throws cops off lol so i woudl sujest that if u dont want trouble they see a carb sticker and dont bother to check if its for the st or gt hehehe i love the sound it makes esp at a stop makes it sound like u have more then u have hahaha but i was thinking about making a quick release for the drivers side high beam so u can disconect it and remove it easly and put the cone right in the hole to make a forced induction for "raceing" purposes lol if u can even race a st hehe but i wanted to see if ne one else had done it and see if its even worth doing. that woudl the the most cold air for your buck and wouldnt look to bad if u had a nice looking filter instead of a highbeam lol 1. I know what your talking about with the engine sounding like its meaner than it is, because the sound is coming from the engine bay and not the muffler. i've had people intimidated by it, and even reluctant to run because they thought I was lying about it being 1.8L. haha. 2. I think if you run your filter through the driver side high beam you will have to relocate the coolant overflow bottle for sure(just drop it down 6 inches and mount with zip ties)and cut off some of the metal brace that holds the high beam in place. so if you were going to be constantly switching it back and forth you might have to custom fabricate and alternative mount.. but i'm not 100% sure. thats from looking at my car, but not test fitting. btw i'm currently using a SRI consisting of a (1) 60 degree bend off the throttle body and filter. it's simple, looks good, and sounds nice. i mean the 7afe's strength (if any) is its torque so why not exploit it a little, with better throttle response. |
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