Gauging interest, who's interested?, possible new product for 5sfte people Options

[6strngs]

Nevermind. A certain company may soon be producing these.

This post has been edited by 6strngs: Oct 6, 2007 - 5:31 PM

[presure2]

why?
done properly, for 50$ you get the 3sgte oil pan, it bolts right up, an use the stock return line.
i cant see a point in it.

[WALKER]

Exactly as Manny mentioned. Don't really need to worry. Use the stock oil return line, it has been used successfully for many many miles on 3S-GTE's around the world.

As for the oil level sensor block off, just don't buy an oil pan off an MR2 3S. If you buy an oil pan off an All-Trac 3S, there is no oil level sensor.

[6strngs]

it looks cleaner and more aftermarket-y, it's easier to install, I hate hard lines, it saves people some time in hunting for parts, and would cost pretty close to the same amount.

I was trying to calculate last night how much it would cost and I might be able to make them for around $115, which is even saving money!

[presure2]

it looks cleaner and more aftermarket-y, it's easier to install, I hate hard lines, it saves people some time in hunting for parts, and would cost pretty close to the same amount.

I was trying to calculate last night how much it would cost and I might be able to make them for around $115, which is even saving money!

how can that be less, when the pan you can get used for ~50?
once you eliminate the stock return, how to you plan on getting oil TO the turbo?
the return and feed are build into the same flange.
i cant see you making a more RELIABLE setup than the stock 3s stuff.
its worked for toyota for 4 generations of 3s motors.
no need to reinvent the wheel.
focus your energy somewhere else, where its more needed.

[6strngs]

it looks cleaner and more aftermarket-y, it's easier to install, I hate hard lines, it saves people some time in hunting for parts, and would cost pretty close to the same amount.

I was trying to calculate last night how much it would cost and I might be able to make them for around $115, which is even saving money!

how can that be less, when the pan you can get used for ~50?
once you eliminate the stock return, how to you plan on getting oil TO the turbo?
the return and feed are build into the same flange.
i cant see you making a more RELIABLE setup than the stock 3s stuff.
its worked for toyota for 4 generations of 3s motors.
no need to reinvent the wheel.
focus your energy somewhere else, where its more needed.

$50 for an oil pan
$35 for the 3s oil line
$30 for the rubber elbow between the drain line and oil pan
$35 for the stainless oil feed line
and another $45 for a oil level sensor block-off plate if you're using an mr2 oil pan and don't want to weld it.

so that's $150 + a possible $45. this kit would be around $115 and would include a flange for bolting to the turbo, a stainless drain line, a stainless feed line, and a flange to be welded onto the stock 5sfe oil pan.

Kits like this are available for pretty much any aftermarket turbo, as well as the stock turbo on alot of other cars, so I figured that people might like it if this option were available to them. My plan was never to make it cheaper, I originally planned to use the 3sgte oil pan but couldn't find the correct adapter; doing so would mean that no welding would be required for the oil feed line like we have to do now. and it seems, most people doing 5sfte set-ups want more of a bolt-on and don't want to have to deal with any fabrication. but the more I started thinking about it, the more I realized it could be cheaper this way anyway. but anyway, I guess if there's no interest then I won't be going through with it.

[urbandork]

i did a 5sfte set up and found that most of the ct26 or ct20b out there already had the hard lines .... so i duno if u need to include them on the list.

The st185 oil pan does not have the level sensor and can be found rather cheap and it is a direct bolt on. Plus if thats to hard to source a nipple can be welded on the stock 5s pan for like 20 bucks.

Of course the rubber hose from the hard line to the pan can be a bit expensive for a small rubber hose,but it is shaped and pretty much slips right in and i would consider that bolt on

The steel breaded line with a 3 an adapter is needed for the oil feed anyway u look at it if u use a oil and water cooled lubricated turbo. Plus the adapter to tap into the oil pressure sensor is pretty common these days (forgot the website who makes them) so there isn't a worry about finding a tee out that has all the right threads on it and can support the weight of the oil pressure sensor.

The only problem ppl might run into is how to get the ss braided line connected from the adapter to the feed lines........ I just used a tap and die to find the tread of the fitting, cut the bango fitting off and threaded the feed line.......

....... This is actually where i might put together a kit........ if u can buy in bulk the ss line, an fittings, and (HERES THE KICKER) some kind of bango bolt to a.n. fitting that can bolt right up to the bango feed line and connect to the braided line so ppl dont have to figure out how to connect the braided line to the feed lines by themselves


good luck by any case woot woot

This post has been edited by urbandork: Oct 6, 2007 - 1:15 AM

[presure2]

it looks cleaner and more aftermarket-y, it's easier to install, I hate hard lines, it saves people some time in hunting for parts, and would cost pretty close to the same amount.

I was trying to calculate last night how much it would cost and I might be able to make them for around $115, which is even saving money!

how can that be less, when the pan you can get used for ~50?
once you eliminate the stock return, how to you plan on getting oil TO the turbo?
the return and feed are build into the same flange.
i cant see you making a more RELIABLE setup than the stock 3s stuff.
its worked for toyota for 4 generations of 3s motors.
no need to reinvent the wheel.
focus your energy somewhere else, where its more needed.

$50 for an oil pan
$35 for the 3s oil line
$30 for the rubber elbow between the drain line and oil pan
$35 for the stainless oil feed line
and another $45 for a oil level sensor block-off plate if you're using an mr2 oil pan and don't want to weld it.

so that's $150 + a possible $45. this kit would be around $115 and would include a flange for bolting to the turbo, a stainless drain line, a stainless feed line, and a flange to be welded onto the stock 5sfe oil pan.

Kits like this are available for pretty much any aftermarket turbo, as well as the stock turbo on alot of other cars, so I figured that people might like it if this option were available to them. My plan was never to make it cheaper, I originally planned to use the 3sgte oil pan but couldn't find the correct adapter; doing so would mean that no welding would be required for the oil feed line like we have to do now. and it seems, most people doing 5sfte set-ups want more of a bolt-on and don't want to have to deal with any fabrication. but the more I started thinking about it, the more I realized it could be cheaper this way anyway. but anyway, I guess if there's no interest then I won't be going through with it.

again, i cant see you building a more reliable setup than the stock 3sgte stuff.
dont mean it wont sell.
IIRC there have been a few guys who have tried it on mr2oc, it never took off.