 POSSIBLE ENGINE GB!!!!!!!!, ATTN engine swappers!! |
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 Aug 15, 2003 - 11:40 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 12, '03 From Beaverton, Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
[B]I have a connection with my local Toyota dlr (been doing business for over 6 years) and my guy has asked me to get a poll on how many people would be interested in getting JDM front clips. Any make, Toyota (3sgte), Hondas (b18's, H22's B16's), Nissan SR20det's, etc.
PM ME or email @ ijohnstone40@yahoo.com if you are SERIOUSLY interested and have the cash ready to go (or soon) THIS IS NO JOKE!!! JDM FRONT CLIPS FOR A BETTER PRICE THAN ANY IMPORTER I HAVE SEEN!!!  -------------------- Quote: Those who do not understand the power of words have never tried to argue with a traffic cop!!
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Aug 15, 2003 - 1:58 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Mar 31, '03 From RI Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
how much are we looking at? are the engines brand new with no miles on them? do they come with everything needed for the swap?
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Aug 15, 2003 - 2:18 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 3, '03 From South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Throw out some numbers and we'll see. Ask him about a 4age black top from a AE111 Corolla. Full front clip for less than 1400 and maybe. If he can get it for alot less then I'm in.
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Aug 15, 2003 - 3:30 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 12, '03 From Beaverton, Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
these are for front clips only!!! They come with EVERYTHING you could possibly need to swap!! you could even do a Right hand drive conversion with the clips!!! they would be used since they would be literally a front cut of the car, shift knob forward.I will check on the ae111
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Aug 15, 2003 - 3:50 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 12, '03 From Beaverton, Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
hey jussimple, i dont know where you are pulling that price from but please try to make reasonable offers, the cheaest i have found on the net for FRONT CLIPS is 2700.00 for an ae111 corolla (95-99) these are pretty new so the price is higher
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Aug 15, 2003 - 3:56 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 31, '02 From Boise, ID Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
What would a 3rd gen 3sgte clip run? I've got no idea, but about $2,000 burning a hole in my pocket...
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Aug 15, 2003 - 4:13 PM
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They all won't come with everything... certain parts are damaged from accidents and parts may get damaged when they get shipped in the container... This is the reason why I think a GB on clips wouldn't be a good idea. I think it would be more reasonable to do GB's on things that will be sold in *practically* the same condition, because it wouldn't be fair for someone to pay $1200 for a complete clip while someone pays the same amount for a clip that has some damaged parts or with higher miles... This is just a simple example and my $0.02... This post has been edited by kuya1284: Aug 15, 2003 - 4:13 PM |
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Aug 15, 2003 - 4:27 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
That brings up another point... Clips are expensive, unlike gauge pods, springs, clutches, etc... which are more reasonably priced. It's going to rather difficult gathering a bunch of people (who WILL follow through) to purchase clips. |
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Aug 15, 2003 - 6:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 12, '03 From Beaverton, Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
how do you think these importers bring in these engines?? one by one?? NO WAY!!! they bring a big ass container stuffed with front clips, engines, trannies, etc. Yes some of the BODY panels will be damaged , but with getting an engine anyway, you would want to refresh all the belts, gaskets etc anyways, i would NEVER just drop in something without doing at least that!! so a group buy doesnt matter versus buying it from an importer because they bring a bunch stacked anyway!! i'm just trying to skip the middleman, and save $$$ on the importers mark up!! If youre against it dont worry about it i have 9 people ready to go and all i need is 21 more!! and this post has only been going for about 5 hours now!! so far so good!!
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Aug 15, 2003 - 9:06 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
It's NOT only body panels that will get damaged son. Trust me... I've dealt with importers already... and parts such as the Intercooler, heater exchange, axles, brakes, etc CAN get damaged. If these IMPORTANT parts get damaged, what would be the point of purchasing the clip? In addition, some of the crucial components may be damaged prior to being shipped... I already know that they get shipped in containers... I bought I clip... a WRC to be exact... so I know about the whole process. I'm not trying to rain on your parade... as a matter of fact, it's actually great... but what I don't think is reasonable is the fact that all the clips won't be the same... I'm sure that this can be worked out by lowering the price for clips that aren't as complete... BUT how will you split up the clips amongst the buyers? If both Buyer A and Buyer B want clip X because it is more complete, how will you determine who gets to purchase the clip without burning any bridges? I was in the business of selling VIS kits for really cheap to help out the Celica community... and even though I got lots of inquiries (over 50 a month for 3 months), you want to know how many actually followed through? 4 loyal people... Now tell me, what business model do you plan to stick with that will convince buyers to following through with purchasing these expensive clips? Again, I do think what you doing is great... but I also think that it will be hard selling certain clips to certain buyers FAIRLY... I hope you understand what I'm saying... if not... oh well... but either way, I wish you the best of luck... This post has been edited by kuya1284: Aug 15, 2003 - 9:07 PM |
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Aug 15, 2003 - 9:18 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Oh yeah... one more thing... how do you plan on dealing with warranty issues? Are you "as the organizer" of this GB going to handle this... or are you going to leave that up to the importer? What kind of guarantees can you or the importer make to ensure that the compression of these motors are good? What kind of guarantee will be offered as a whole? Going back to the aforementioned "clip distribution" idea, how will you determine who gets what clip? Are you going to allow people to pick and choose? Or are you just going to determine the value of the clip and deliver based on the (payment) amount that a customer put down?
These are just basic questions, but I can come up with more, which are all worth considering when dealing with customers. This post has been edited by kuya1284: Aug 15, 2003 - 9:21 PM |
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Aug 15, 2003 - 9:45 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i would LOOOOVE to get my hands on a 96-99 MR2 3sgte rear clip, but thats exactly what i was thinking ray.
BTW: i was one of the 4 lol. --------------------  Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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Aug 15, 2003 - 10:28 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 26, '03 From Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hey it looks as if someone took my little brothers sacastic thread and turned into something real...real stupid. We want imported engines only, with everything. And even then..no way
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Aug 15, 2003 - 11:10 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
front clip IS the engine with EVERYTHING...  so i dont see what your point is.
-------------------- Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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Aug 16, 2003 - 12:50 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yup... Tim was definitely was one those 4... and a very patient guy... As a matter of fact.. he was the FIRST to buy from me...  you da man Timmy! This post has been edited by kuya1284: Aug 16, 2003 - 12:51 AM |
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Aug 16, 2003 - 8:17 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 26, '03 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I like the idea, but as stated before, no one would get the same thing and no one would have the money to go through with this. Stick with more practical things.
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Aug 16, 2003 - 5:31 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 12, '03 From Beaverton, Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
for those of you who do not have the money to do this, WHAT ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT?? its not even an option for you anyway!! and to answer the many questions posted by those of you who arent even going to buy,.... here i go.
WARRANTY: handled by the export compoany. Compression and leak down tests will be provided per clip. PRICE: will be determined to specific wants of the buyer; ie. if they want an st185 and dont care about body sheet metal, OBVIOUSLY the price would be lower! if they want an st205, one that has decent to good sheet metal OBVIOUSLY the price would be higher. and Clips ARE expensive!!! unlike gauge pods, springs, clutches, etc... which are more reasonably priced. but if you try to piece a car together with parts purchased seperately you will pay WAY MORE that you think SON! IMPORTERS/EXPORTERS: whatever company any of you may have delt with in the past that has shipped damaged parts, or gets damaged on the way,.. doesnt have someone in JAPAN pesonally CRATING and inspecting each wanted clip and packing it into HIS COMPANIES CONTAINER, not some bull**** company hat just stacks sloppily and messes more stuff up. And of course all the clips will NOT be the same!! The way that is worked out is whoever wants x (specified part) commits and puts a deposit on their purchase. they also tell me what is the max tey have to spend so i can find the best fit, per their requirements and it is basically a first come first serve. why should the last guy who wants to spend the least amount of money get choice of the best quality stuff that the first guy with the most money should get. I run a business here locally and am partners in two others. I have delt with complex situations like these DAILY!! worth in some cases over 2 million dollars each! FINALLY---- if you arent going to buy or can't even afford, or havent been on my end before, save your two cents. it just wastes my time. FOR ThOSE OF YOU WHO ARE INTERESTED, PM ME!!!! I will be more thatn happy to cater to your personal wants/needs. -------------------- Quote: Those who do not understand the power of words have never tried to argue with a traffic cop!!
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Aug 16, 2003 - 7:17 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Good luck... |
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Aug 16, 2003 - 10:05 PM
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ok that is from two different posts that you made first you say that your local toyota dealer wants to know how many people are interested then you say later on in a different post that you own your own business doing this which one is it???? edit: oh and if this is for real get me a 99 SS-III front clip with LSD and everything in good working condition. This post has been edited by GT2GT4: Aug 16, 2003 - 10:06 PM |
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