2jzgte swap, engine swap Options

[monkey]

Ok, as many of you know, my 94 celi is wrecked and I will be keeping it and doing a swap on it. i know i can put a 2jzgte in it, but i dont know how hard it will be.... any ideas? i have time and money so i dont wanna hear any crap about my idea being stupid... and yes, i already know itl have to be rwd, but would it be possible to make it awd too? the cars a frame assembly was ripped off so im having to repair it or i can make it rwd and drop a 2jz... comments and support greatly appreciated....

[Kwanza26]

If you have to ask... then NO. Take all of that money you have and buy a supra. Then spend all of that time you have driving it. The end.

This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Jan 4, 2008 - 1:14 AM

[monkey]

If you have to ask... then NO. Take all of that money you have and buy a supra. Then spend all of that time you have driving it. The end.

hah i love my celi too much, and id much rather have a celi with a 2jz anyday tahn a supra...

but now this is just an idea in the works....
reaserch says it can be done.... i just dont know if it be worth it....

This post has been edited by monkey: Jan 4, 2008 - 1:20 AM

[Kwanza26]

hah i love my celi too much, and id much rather have a celi with a 2jz anyday tahn a supra...

but now this is just an idea in the works....
reaserch says it can be done.... i just dont know if it be worth it....

Research says many things. It's just a matter of who you ask. Allow me to say, it's not worth it or even feasible because the amount of time/money/custom fabrication involved is quite beyond most DIY people. Basically, you'll need to hack up the firewall, hack up the front interior, hack up the front support, custom build a streeing rack, hack up the rear-end, custom build a rear subframe, design support points for whatever rear-end you want to use, custom fabricate a from crossmember and reinforce the front frame rails, custom engine mount points, swap in the motor, custom driveline, custom shifter, depending on the rear-end, custom rear axles, and then you might get something that won't fall apart.

After all that's done, you still get a 3000 pound car with sub-par suspension and unknown weight balance and handling capabilities.

This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Jan 4, 2008 - 1:28 AM

[monkey]

im down to do all that, and keep in mind that i have a toyota dealership in my right hand that can help me out in everyway... i have a shop that builds hotrods who can help me with custom fabrication... its not about my knowledge, its about my connections that have lets say caught my curiosity for this build, if its not feasible than its not feasible, what sould yall recomend i put in it, powers what i want and gosh darnet power is what im goin ta get!

[Kwanza26]

im down to do all that, and keep in mind that i have a toyota dealership in my right hand that can help me out in everyway... i have a shop that builds hotrods who can help me with custom fabrication... its not about my knowledge, its about my connections that have lets say caught my curiosity for this build, if its not feasible than its not feasible, what sould yall recomend i put in it, powers what i want and gosh darnet power is what im goin ta get!

FYI... a Toyota dealership ain't gonna touch something like this... unless you're the owner of said dealership. Better to simply hire the rod shop to build it. Personally... I think you're dreamin'...

[monkey]

haha well my fathers the CPA CFO of the dealership and ive had a job there since i was 12 and know the owners since i was shorter than my own kneecaps...and im not lookin to hire anyone... im not dreaming here, im just trying to gather information and if you have any other suggestions of engines i should use then let me know, im open to ideas!
if people have put solara engines in celicas, why not a 2jz?
i know the solara is fwd and the 2jz is rear
the only reason im choosing the 2jz is the abundance of mods for them....

This post has been edited by monkey: Jan 4, 2008 - 1:53 AM

[Kwanza26]

if people have put solara engines in celicas, why not a 2jz?

I think you need to work on that logic a bit more.

[lagos]

i dont wanna hear any crap about my idea being stupid.

go for it.

[snapshotgt]

if people have put solara engines in celicas, why not a 2jz?

So sad.

[monkey]

thats soo cool how im asking for some advise and is all is get is smart ass replies.....

[MaskedMan]

Well it's great that you have all these connections that can help you out with the work. It would probably then make more sense to ask them about the cost of the project then, since they would be able to give you a better estimate.

[monkey]

thanks,
i have been doing this, but i know theres a lot of gear heads in here and ill need all the advise i can get, u know?
if too many people have bad advise on it i guess ill go back to a 3sgte swap and maybe end up doing a awd on it?....

[95st-celica]

still next to impossiable...your gonna need some custom fabbin dude

[monkey]

this is really off topic but yall gotta check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ol2NNTWzrA

please keep the feedback commin, if yall dont think it can be done then say it, just dont call me stupid!

[lagos]

this is really off topic but yall gotta check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ol2NNTWzrA

please keep the feedback commin, if yall dont think it can be done then say it, just dont call me stupid!

The simple answer to your question is that no, it can't be done.

[monkey]

what would yall recomend me swap into it? is there a 3sgte awd conversion done yet?? keep in mine im in the US

[MaskedMan]

A 3sgte AWD swap has already been done in the US a few times. I know your looking for power, which is why you chose the 2jz route, but what exactly are your horsepower goals and what are you trying to achieve here? Ofcourse actually buying a Supra would be the easiest way to achieve having a 2jz, or buying an SC300 and swapping in the turbo motor. Hmm but i say, if you love your celica, and you want to stick with your celica, then it would only make sense to KEEP it a Celica. The engine that would be the most recommended for cost, ease of swap, and power would ofcourse be the 3sgte. yawn. 2nd gen, 3rd gen, even 4th gen, w/e, it's all been done. But it's a good start. It's what you do from there that will set you apart from the rest.

[monkey]

haha my hp goals are 650+ id like 750 but that seems insaine for a street celi

[illneversellmyce...]

why dont you go the v6 route, all the engines you mention and you havent stated them. i know only a few cleicas have a v6, but their are a good number of them in mr2's . check out the mr2 forums some of their dynos numbers are impressive, saw a couple round 500. I know it aint the 650 750 range, but its still a new option and those people are not done. research the imzfe, 3mz, 3vz, 5vz.

also i dont know anything about the ij or 2j but the only celica i have ever seen that swap was a 1rst gen celica and it needed hella fabrication.

dont let people determine your decision, do what you want or dream

This post has been edited by illneversellmycelli: Jan 4, 2008 - 3:56 AM