greddy emanage ultimate Options

[1994toyotaracer]

hey guys i see everyone has came to the conclusion that the greddy emanage ultimate is the way to go i just have some questions like
1 whats the big difference between the enanage and emanage ultimate
2 does anyone have a write up on how to install and wire
3 what harnesses do you need for it like igntition injector etc
4 does anyone have basic tunning settings
and 5 where is the cheapest place to get one


thanks

[presure2]

hey guys i see everyone has came to the conclusion that the greddy emanage ultimate is the way to go i just have some questions like
1 whats the big difference between the enanage and emanage ultimate

you can control the injectors independantly of airflow. in other words, the emanage "blue" controls fuel much in the same manner as the SAFC, by manipulating the MAP signal. the "ultimate" can do this, and also control the injector outputs from the ECU, and modify the opening time of the injectors, without changing the MAP signal
2 does anyone have a write up on how to install and wire

i made a "cheat sheet" a while back, when i got mine, but there are options on setting it up ect that will require your own work.
i have yet to get the ignition side of it working properly with my car.

3 what harnesses do you need for it like igntition injector etc
i got the coplete harness.
4 does anyone have basic tunning settings
you need to set it up based on what features you are going to use, then you need to tune your car with a wideband, preferably on a dyno. using someone elses "settings" is not a good idea, every engine is a bit diffrent.
and 5 where is the cheapest place to get one
youll have to shop around for that, remember, sometimes the cheapest isnt the best.


thanks

[Tony_the_Tiger]

hey guys i see everyone has came to the conclusion that the greddy emanage ultimate is the way to go i just have some questions like
1 whats the big difference between the enanage and emanage ultimate
2 does anyone have a write up on how to install and wire
3 what harnesses do you need for it like igntition injector etc
4 does anyone have basic tunning settings
and 5 where is the cheapest place to get one


thanks

As presure2 stated already, the Ultimate can modify the actual injector duty cycle.. It can intercept the injector wire and modify the fuel without affecting anything else.

The other main advantage of the Ultimate is temperature correction. The Ultimate has both water temp and air temp correction which is absolutely necessary for a good tune. The E-manage blue will need constant retunes when weather changes, which I do have a fair share of customers coming in each winter for retunes with the E-manage blue.

One other feature I like about the Ultimate is the ability to drive 4 additional injectors on a 4cyl engine. You can literally set it up so it fires accordingly to your factory injectors under boost when you need more fuel. That's a major bonus because I set all my customer's cars with additional injector setups so their gas mileage, idle quality, starting/cranking, and emissions remain 100% factory but no problems running up to twice or three times the amount of power over stock

This post has been edited by Tony_the_Tiger: Feb 6, 2008 - 6:36 AM

[presure2]

hey guys i see everyone has came to the conclusion that the greddy emanage ultimate is the way to go i just have some questions like
1 whats the big difference between the enanage and emanage ultimate
2 does anyone have a write up on how to install and wire
3 what harnesses do you need for it like igntition injector etc
4 does anyone have basic tunning settings
and 5 where is the cheapest place to get one


thanks

As presure2 stated already, the Ultimate can modify the actual injector duty cycle.. It can intercept the injector wire and modify the fuel without affecting anything else.

The other main advantage of the Ultimate is temperature correction. The Ultimate has both water temp and air temp correction which is absolutely necessary for a good tune. The E-manage blue will need constant retunes when weather changes, which I do have a fair share of customers coming in each winter for retunes with the E-manage blue.

One other feature I like about the Ultimate is the ability to drive 4 additional injectors on a 4cyl engine. You can literally set it up so it fires accordingly to your factory injectors under boost when you need more fuel. That's a major bonus because I set all my customer's cars with additional injector setups so their gas mileage, idle quality, starting/cranking, and emissions remain 100% factory but no problems running up to twice or three times the amount of power over stock

tony, have you been able to interface the igniton side of the ultimate with the 5sfe?
if so, would you mind sharing your wiring info?

[Tony_the_Tiger]

Hey presure2, the wiring portion is straight forward; but due to differences between US/CAN/Cali spec ECU's in a variety of years, I cannot confirm exactly which pinout it would be for your particular Celica. The wire I intercepted is the white wire located on Plug A Pin#20... As long as the wire you decide to use is labelled as "IGT" which is a wire that leads to the ignitor module, then it is all good. You can verify this wire by testing the continuity between the ignitor's white wire and at the ECU.

At the E-manage's section, you will need to configure the ignition output signal jumper (JP8) to 12v by referring to the manual

[presure2]

Hey presure2, the wiring portion is straight forward; but due to differences between US/CAN/Cali spec ECU's in a variety of years, I cannot confirm exactly which pinout it would be for your particular Celica. The wire I intercepted is the white wire located on Plug A Pin#20... As long as the wire you decide to use is labelled as "IGT" which is a wire that leads to the ignitor module, then it is all good. You can verify this wire by testing the continuity between the ignitor's white wire and at the ECU.

At the E-manage's section, you will need to configure the ignition output signal jumper (JP8) to 12v by referring to the manual

IIRC i have that hooked up, that is only the RPM signal wire.
im talking about the actual ignition timing interface, that allows you to manipulate timing, on the fly.

[markie]

Sorry to thread hi-jack.. but had 2 quick questions that relate to the subject at hand:

1. how does the apexi super avc type-r compare with the emanage ultimate?

2. are there any good dyno/tune shops that anyone would recommend here in so. cal?

thanks =)

[MaskedMan]

are there any good dyno/tune shops that anyone would recommend here in so. cal?

thanks =)

I know Jeff took his car to Mavrik Motorsports in Fullerton to tune his 5sfte. Pretty nice guy and very knowledgeable. The address is 3811 Atesia Ave Unit B. Fullerton CA, 92833. You can call him up if you want, the number is 714-523-1896, the guy's name is Teddy Hiraoka. He is availible upon appointment only.

[Tony_the_Tiger]

Hey presure2, the wiring portion is straight forward; but due to differences between US/CAN/Cali spec ECU's in a variety of years, I cannot confirm exactly which pinout it would be for your particular Celica. The wire I intercepted is the white wire located on Plug A Pin#20... As long as the wire you decide to use is labelled as "IGT" which is a wire that leads to the ignitor module, then it is all good. You can verify this wire by testing the continuity between the ignitor's white wire and at the ECU.

At the E-manage's section, you will need to configure the ignition output signal jumper (JP8) to 12v by referring to the manual

IIRC i have that hooked up, that is only the RPM signal wire.
im talking about the actual ignition timing interface, that allows you to manipulate timing, on the fly.

The white wire is the one you are supposed to intercept... Do not emphazise too much on the wire colour because pin out and colour may be different for other years and models. The most important part is to identify the IGT signal from the ECU. Cut this wire, and feed it to the E-manage's ignition output/input according the E-manage instructions. That is the ignitor's trigger wire which is what the ECU sends to the ignition module to fire the coil. By intercepting this wire, the E-manage is advancing or retarding this signal, therefore, changing timing. The 5S-FE is one of the easiest cars to hook up an ignition signal because it uses a distributor, and literally fool-proof in getting this wire correct...lol

My RPM signal is taken from the "IGF" signal, which is the ignitor's feedback wire.. This would be the black/yellow wire.

RPM signal aka IGF = Black/Yellow at stock ECU's harness
Ignition signal aka IGT = White at stock ECU's harness

To double check if everything works, you can verify timing changes with a timing light

Sorry to thread hi-jack.. but had 2 quick questions that relate to the subject at hand:

1. how does the apexi super avc type-r compare with the emanage ultimate?
thanks =)

1. No comparison at all... One is an electronic boost controller, and the other is fuel/ignition management...lol