tocking when i stop, What the heck? Options

[D-Man]

Not that bad - top RIGHT picture bro

oh... oops

[jason]

there should be 4 bolts in there, 2 17mm bolts that hold the cage thinger fast. then 2 14mm bolts that hold the caliper to the cage. when you start the 14mm bolts, they go through the caliper and theres a little nut in there somewhere, you need to hold that and tighten, otherwise it may just tighten itself into the caliper and not move correctly, or it will back out and become loose giving your caliper some play, so when you tap the brakes it allows the caliper to move. since you have slotted rotors, if the bad is at an angle aganst them instead of sitting flush, one of the corners may be making the tick tock noise as it falls into then pushes out of the rotor.

just a thought =/ but good luck

edit - heres a pic, theres a round piece on the cage, then that nut, hold the nut with an open wrench, then put the bolt on and tighten down (like 30-40lbs)



This post has been edited by jason: Feb 27, 2008 - 2:00 PM

[D-Man]

there should be 4 bolts in there, 2 17mm bolts that hold the cage thinger fast. then 2 14mm bolts that hold the caliper to the cage. when you start the 14mm bolts, they go through the caliper and theres a little nut in there somewhere, you need to hold that and tighten, otherwise it may just tighten itself into the caliper and not move correctly, or it will back out and become loose giving your caliper some play, so when you tap the brakes it allows the caliper to move. since you have slotted rotors, if the bad is at an angle aganst them instead of sitting flush, one of the corners may be making the tick tock noise as it falls into then pushes out of the rotor.

just a thought =/ but good luck

edit - heres a pic, theres a round piece on the cage, then that nut, hold the nut with an open wrench, then put the bolt on and tighten down (like 30-40lbs)

i see now. So i need to hold that nut, While tightning the bolt.

Okay, the last time i adjusted it (only the bolt), (the bolt) was holding tight. Should i use a wrench and bring the (nut) back a little bit; and then tighten the two together?

This post has been edited by D-Man: Feb 27, 2008 - 2:31 PM

[DEATH]

since you have slotted rotors, if the bad is at an angle aganst them instead of sitting flush, one of the corners may be making the tick tock noise as it falls into then pushes out of the rotor.

genius - we saw evidence of this on the corner of the offending pad. Now we're getting somewhere.

D-man to answer your question - i have no idea where we would find the measurement for this however, we can measure mine and start from there.
Or you could just change out those pesky rotors for my perfectly good working ones and problem solved

This post has been edited by DEATH: Feb 27, 2008 - 2:38 PM

[D-Man]

since you have slotted rotors, if the bad is at an angle aganst them instead of sitting flush, one of the corners may be making the tick tock noise as it falls into then pushes out of the rotor.

genius - we saw evidence of this on the corner of the offending pad. Now we're getting somewhere.

D-man to answer your question - i have no idea where we would find the measurement for this however, we can measure mine and start from there.
Or you could just change out those pesky rotors for my perfectly good working ones and problem solved

HAH-HAH!! And then i can just throw those pesky drilled and slotted rotors to the trash can (where you'll be waiting?) no~

But that does give me an idea... the front 2 rotors have a VERY small amount of play before you mount the tire on, I wonder if it's being held tightly, BUT sitting at an angle on the lug bolts? With the tire holding it on, it could very well be holding it at an angle, where just 1-2 bolt threads high; but would force the rotor to hit the caliper, and that would explain the feel of clucking, as well as feeling in the pedal. And would explain the synchronization of the rotation of the wheel and the clucking.

Now we've made some progress. P!SS OFF BREAK CHECK, I got 6gc.net

Lets find out tonight. I'll let you guys know in the morning. (Thanks Jason)

[D-Man]

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This post has been edited by D-Man: Feb 27, 2008 - 3:31 PM

[D-Man]

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This post has been edited by D-Man: Feb 27, 2008 - 3:30 PM

[jason]

i imagine the slight amount of play in the rotors is due to them not being machined perfectly, or being tightened 100% never really messed with that on my car.

as long as they are held on tight enough witht he wheels on to settle in i would imagine you are ok.

once everything is tightened up you should be good to go.

if the corner of the pad is worn a bit goofy you may still hear some noise at first till it wears even.

[D-Man]

i imagine the slight amount of play in the rotors is due to them not being machined perfectly, or being tightened 100% never really messed with that on my car.

as long as they are held on tight enough witht he wheels on to settle in i would imagine you are ok.

once everything is tightened up you should be good to go.

if the corner of the pad is worn a bit goofy you may still hear some noise at first till it wears even.

Right-on.

I'm going to duck-tape the rotor in place from one side; around my strut, and back to the rotor to hold it tight while i mount my tire. That way, i can rather fix or eliminate this idea. It sounds perfectly possible to me.

If not then saturday morning at death's house measuring break pads, rotors, calipers and such. lol.

[LewFX]

you can buy the a anti-rattle kit at the dealer for under 10 bucks which has 4 springs, 4 clips

[D-Man]

you can buy the a anti-rattle kit at the dealer for under 10 bucks which has 4 springs, 4 clips

oh no, this is MUCH worse than any squeek or squeel. This is car shaking pedal bouncing kind of action. I''m scared my pad i's going to fly off in 2 peices, lol. Or that my rotor is going to crack.

[GriffGirl]

what about checking just the really simple stuff first? The rotor wouldn't show symptoms of being warped all the time if it was warped, it would (in my experience) primarily exhibit symptoms when breaking. Defective new rotors aren't terribly uncommon. Sometimes they can become that way just sitting on the shelf for a long period of time. Having them turned (if you didn't have them turned before putting them on) will tell you if they're warped or not.

Also, what about grease on the brake pad on the offending side? This'll screw up your braking too, big time from what I understand.

[D-Man]

what about checking just the really simple stuff first? The rotor wouldn't show symptoms of being warped all the time if it was warped, it would (in my experience) primarily exhibit symptoms when breaking. Defective new rotors aren't terribly uncommon. Sometimes they can become that way just sitting on the shelf for a long period of time. Having them turned (if you didn't have them turned before putting them on) will tell you if they're warped or not.

Also, what about grease on the brake pad on the offending side? This'll screw up your braking too, big time from what I understand.

we already covered this. It's greased. It's good. Ask death, he was at my house last night, he drove it. Its pretty violent. I'm scared of something breaking due to the violent power of this noise. You hear it, you feel it. You FEAR it, lol. ANd it's on those new Drilled and Sloted rotors i just bough.

Yeah, right they could be warped, but i dont believe so. (besides, i'd be F-ed if they were, lol, i dont think those old people from craigslist will give a refund for defective merchandise) but as for having them turned, We're poor folk here in texas, griff. We're cool(as you said before), but were also very broke. lol. Thats why i do everything myself, I couldn't afford to pay someone to help me if i wanted to.

I bribed death with alcohol for his assistance.

This post has been edited by D-Man: Feb 27, 2008 - 5:49 PM

[DEATH]

I bribed death with alcohol for his assistance.

I took the alcohol as icing - ask Havok, Panda, Ngofcukingway, Griffgirl etc. - I actually like helping people with their Celicas.
I thought your PM said you fixed the problem and have a new one?

[D-Man]

OKAY problem solved. but lets review a few notes...

1) do NOT buy cheap jackstands. The stock jack can NOT support the weight of your car. and it is NOT fun when your car falls on your shoulder.

2) Cold beer fixes a hurt shoulder.

3) i shall invest in some EXPENSIVE jackstands this weekend!

Turns out that the problem was in the pads. It would seem that theese pads didnt fit properly. I'll get the brand up tommorow so that no one ever buys them. lol. As for my problem, i've a new one.

[DEATH]

OKAY problem solved. but lets review a few notes...

1) do NOT buy cheap jackstands. The stock jack can NOT support the weight of your car. and it is NOT fun when your car falls on your shoulder.

2) Cold beer fixes a hurt shoulder.

3) i shall invest in some EXPENSIVE jackstands this weekend!

Turns out that the problem was in the pads. It would seem that theese pads didnt fit properly. I'll get the brand up tommorow so that no one ever buys them. lol. As for my problem, i've a new one.

$hit man - you got under the car on stock jack? You can always stop by and borrow tools - I know where you live.
Wait - we need closure - so the ears on the pads were too small to hold them properly?
BTW - I have a set of new pads for the rear in my garage - $25 [and they are the good parts store kind - not the cheap ones]. Even so I must say [for the 1000X - nothing beats stock or pref TRD for quality]

[D-Man]

OKAY problem solved. but lets review a few notes...

1) do NOT buy cheap jackstands. The stock jack can NOT support the weight of your car. and it is NOT fun when your car falls on your shoulder.

2) Cold beer fixes a hurt shoulder.

3) i shall invest in some EXPENSIVE jackstands this weekend!

Turns out that the problem was in the pads. It would seem that theese pads didnt fit properly. I'll get the brand up tommorow so that no one ever buys them. lol. As for my problem, i've a new one.

$hit man - you got under the car on stock jack? You can always stop by and borrow tools - I know where you live.
Wait - we need closure - so the ears on the pads were too small to hold them properly?
BTW - I have a set of new pads for the rear in my garage - $25 [and they are the good parts store kind - not the cheap ones]. Even so I must say [for the 1000X - nothing beats stock or pref TRD for quality]

no, my old ones were new, maby 4-6 weeks old, they just need more grease now. lol.

Yeah, it seems that the ear was too small on one.

So i changed em both out.

My jack stand went into peices, And the jack was no match for the weight of the car. We need to get together with a rubber mallet and beat the rotor guard back into place. I dont tock anymore, but i grind when i make a right hand turn. D@mnit...

[D-Man]

and wholey crap!! when i stop, i STOP!!

[DEATH]

OKAY problem solved. but lets review a few notes...

1) do NOT buy cheap jackstands. The stock jack can NOT support the weight of your car. and it is NOT fun when your car falls on your shoulder.

2) Cold beer fixes a hurt shoulder.

3) i shall invest in some EXPENSIVE jackstands this weekend!

Turns out that the problem was in the pads. It would seem that theese pads didnt fit properly. I'll get the brand up tommorow so that no one ever buys them. lol. As for my problem, i've a new one.

$hit man - you got under the car on stock jack? You can always stop by and borrow tools - I know where you live.
Wait - we need closure - so the ears on the pads were too small to hold them properly?
BTW - I have a set of new pads for the rear in my garage - $25 [and they are the good parts store kind - not the cheap ones]. Even so I must say [for the 1000X - nothing beats stock or pref TRD for quality]

no, my old ones were new, maby 4-6 weeks old, they just need more grease now. lol.

Yeah, it seems that the ear was too small on one.

So i changed em both out.

My jack stand went into peices, And the jack was no match for the weight of the car. We need to get together with a rubber mallet and beat the rotor guard back into place. I dont tock anymore, but i grind when i make a right hand turn. D@mnit...

Yeah I got one. So are you currently driving on one side new, one side old?
Bring me the other old one [for size comparison] and the offending pad and I'll do the weld trick someone else was talking about above. I'll even grind it smooth and Mic it for a perfect fit. BS tho - you shouldn't have to do that.