4AGZE Swap Options

[jesterwr217]

it was in various cars from 86-95... i believe it was in a certain prism i think a gsi or something like that from like 90-93 i believe... maybe thats just the 4age... someone correct me if im wrong....

well i know it came in the first gen mr2 and the jdm corollas im just tryn to find a good place to buy just the engine, ecu, and harness

[Culpable04]

you want a complete swap kit, not just the engine, and if you want to make it turbo instead of supercharged, you'll also need a silver top intake manifold since the 4AGZE will be facing the wrong side. I've checked and prices on eBay are very good, just do some research on the seller as some of them don't include everything needed for the swap. In my case when I solve my space issue I'll go pick one up at a local engine importer so I'll know for sure everything will be there.

if you get a MR2 4agze you'll have to make minor changes as some of the stuff will be oriented differently, so do your best to find a 4agze from a levin or corolla, since they are FWD it'll be a better suit for the celica.

[jesterwr217]

you want a complete swap kit, not just the engine, and if you want to make it turbo instead of supercharged, you'll also need a silver top intake manifold since the 4AGZE will be facing the wrong side. I've checked and prices on eBay are very good, just do some research on the seller as some of them don't include everything needed for the swap. In my case when I solve my space issue I'll go pick one up at a local engine importer so I'll know for sure everything will be there.

if you get a MR2 4agze you'll have to make minor changes as some of the stuff will be oriented differently, so do your best to find a 4agze from a levin or corolla, since they are FWD it'll be a better suit for the celica.

im not looking to turbo just the supercharger with cusco pully thats why all i would need is the 4agze the harness and the ecu

[Culpable04]

in your particular case that wouldn't make much sense, a 4agze with a cusco pulley will net you the same if not less power than your 7afte.

[jesterwr217]

in your particular case that wouldn't make much sense, a 4agze with a cusco pulley will net you the same if not less power than your 7afte.

im saying thats all i need to do the swap after that ill save up for the rest of my goodies

[Culpable04]

4AGZE turbo write up !

This post has been edited by Culpable04: Mar 23, 2008 - 9:05 PM

[97lestyousay]

Thats a really good write up. The intake he used looks like the small port 4age non tvis.
Are all gzes large port?

This post has been edited by 97lestyousay: Mar 28, 2008 - 4:58 PM

[Culpable04]

Thats a really good write up. The intake he used looks like the small port 4age non tvis.
Are all gzes large port?

[97lestyousay]

Everyone I have asked says use the large port head for a turbo build
from what that shows, I don't see why. The small port comes stock
with bigger injectors, and makes more power than the large port.
To me that says better flow.

[Culpable04]

I would use a small port because of the MAP, and younger motor, but I think most people prefer big port heads because of the lower C/R and better flow ( don't quote me on the flow preference since I don't really know the differences on flow from one head to the other )

other random things I've been reading / thinking
4agze's have forged piston in stock form, that's one of the reasons why these motors run a little rough when cold until they're up to temp. so this engine comes built for good daily power on stock form, our only problem is the tranny, the 6 speed tranny is not an option for power builts, they are wayy to weak. Unlike the 3S guys we don't have a E153 option and the stock ST tranny's are not the best for big power applications, our best chance is with the C-52 that comes on some levin and JDM MR-2s with a hydrolic LSD, and a big turbo so we don't boost too early to lose traction. I was gonna swap my car before paint but the paint on my car is in such a poor condition that I can't do that, I'm gonna be painting the car within the next 2-3 months and if I don't get a job I just applied for I'm gonna use the time to swap the car before Sept when I'll be back to school.

This post has been edited by Culpable04: Mar 29, 2008 - 10:15 PM

[mikecelica]

I was wondering if we wanted to swap a 4agze into an st if we would have the same problem as GT guys who only buy a 3sgte engine set? For example
"If you just bought engine, ecu, tranny, wiring harness.
You would be missing: 3rd ECU plug, AFM, ignitor, coil, injector resistor pack, fuel pump resistor, fuel pump relay, turbo pressure sensor, air intake piping, and probably some other stuff."
Is this the same for swapping a 4agze into an ST also? thanks
"

[nik]

Everyone I have asked says use the large port head for a turbo build
from what that shows, I don't see why. The small port comes stock
with bigger injectors, and makes more power than the large port.
To me that says better flow.

think of it this way when you port and polish a head for more flow you widen it
the big port head is bigger by like 25% stock to stock with the same port
so when you turbo and you want all the flow you can get so starting the big port is the way to go

now this all depends on your power goals



http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...mp;#entry470819


http://www.billzilla.org/4agstock.htm

[mikecelica]

I was wondering if we wanted to swap a 4agze into an st if we would have the same problem as GT guys who only buy a 3sgte engine set? For example
"If you just bought engine, ecu, tranny, wiring harness.
You would be missing: 3rd ECU plug, AFM, ignitor, coil, injector resistor pack, fuel pump resistor, fuel pump relay, turbo pressure sensor, air intake piping, and probably some other stuff."
Is this the same for swapping a 4agze into an ST also? thanks
"

Does anybody know?

[Culpable04]

you'll be missing ( not exactly the same items as 3S guys ) but you have to make sure you get a COMPLETE swap set with all sensors and un cut wiring harness, etc.

[Zeros2]

http://www.fnfmotors.ca/JDM-Engine-4A-GZE-...fnf-toyota9.htm would this be what i am looking for if i just want to ditch this 90hp 7afe and get the 4agze

[Stambo]

I've been reading up on this swap for awhile and i'm still planning to swap for the 4agze. i figured it be a good autox engine since the high revs. One question, if i find the engine out of a corolla/levin the powersteering will work in our cars... Yes? I've heard that the mounts for the ac and powersteering arn't right or something or another.

[soulshadow]

ahh back from the dead posts... Anyways, if your 7A is still running fine I would just keep it stock that way. If your wanting for more ponies for whatever reason then I suggest you do go a 3S. The 4a is great but in our fat cars it won't be much of a thrill seeker. If HP is all you want perhaps its time to get a different car that has Ponies in it to begin with.