3S-GTE Trannies, Worthy of the power |
3S-GTE Trannies, Worthy of the power |
Aug 29, 2003 - 7:12 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
So I still wouldnt be able to use the entire MR2T transaxles, just the innershafts with the stock outter
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Sep 2, 2003 - 3:10 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 1, '03 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The 3SGE Curren and SSII / SSIII Celica's came with the S54 trans. It rumored that the gear ratio was revised, but most of the internals are the same as the S54 on the GT Celica's.
On that note, who is saying the S54 trans is weak? Ryan's T67 powered 3SGTE 6th gen put down over 500HP on the dyno at CJ Motorsports using the stock S54 trans! There are 3 companies that make a LSD unit for the S54 as well. The only advantage of the E series trans is the gear ratio - which is better for top end and cruising. The S54 has a higher ratio, making it better for drag. -------------------- Scott
West Michigan |
Sep 2, 2003 - 12:50 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Scott: I'm saying that it's weak... I've seen many instance where this tranny blew up... Super is one example, Clayton on Celica.net another, and other people you all aren't familiar with here in Cali. The only time I've heard of the S54 withstanding the torque of a 3S-GTE is with that Ryan dude... and the only way that I can see a S54 lasting is if it's brand spanking new, or rebuilt... |
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Sep 2, 2003 - 12:50 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
This topic was started due to the fact that my tranny blew itself a new asshole 3 days after I got the 3sgte on the road. Now, I have heard that GT with 500+hp but how much mileage does it have? I had 185,000. Thats alot of mileage for just stock engine and pretty impressive i think. And it wasnt the gears the blew out, it was the bellhousing.
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Mar 9, 2004 - 10:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 30, '03 From Columbus, Georgia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
so could you not go to car-part.com and get the mr2 tranny as well? and couldnt you go to autozone to get axles? or would it generally be more expensive?
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Mar 10, 2004 - 11:50 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 8, '03 From San Jose, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
There was a celica 5sfe turbo florida that was doing 380 whp with stock tranny. I think he since switched to a camry tranny but only to get his top speed up. never had any problems with the stock one, just kept good gear oil in it and shifted smooth and it was fine.
remember too: people blow these trannies up all the time on STOCK celicas too. It's called bad driving and clashing gears or beating on it in general. I'll probably blow mine up soon too...but so far I'm at about 1500 miles with the swap and still doing ok. - aba |
Mar 10, 2004 - 12:22 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 15, '03 From San Jose, CA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
W00t for topic resurection...
Mainly what has been said a million times is a GT tranny (s54) can be used, sometimes its good, sometimes its not. But mainly its generaly safer to go with the MR2/camry v6 tranny. |
Mar 10, 2004 - 1:12 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Heres the deal with mine, i didnt blow the tranny i blew the bellhousing. There was improper stress placed upon it and it blew a hole. The actual gears are ok although the synchros are going. But they were going before i did the swap. I've done 5,000 miles not going over 4K rpm and 90mph and its been ok. Only time will tell....just be gentle on it.
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Mar 15, 2004 - 12:59 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 15, '03 From San Jose, CA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
nothing.
This post has been edited by Chrobis: Mar 15, 2004 - 1:16 AM |
Mar 15, 2004 - 8:20 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 3, '02 From Va Team 6gc Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
so, is there a automatic tranny that will work(can anyone confirm kuya's auto mr2)?
-------------------- All I have in this world is my Balls and my Word and I'm not breaking em for no one,- Tony Montana Team 6gc 2005 |
Mar 15, 2004 - 10:22 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 10, '03 From FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
so ive read thru this many times, and i am still lost. Its obvious that you cant use the mr2t transmission because it is two short as kuya has stated. So does that mean that you could use the e series 6cyl camry transmission by itself and be safe? Now what Kuya was talking about on mixing the two was so that he could have the limited slip of the mr2 mixed with teh correct size of the camry. I am not to worried about the lsd right now, i just want the e series tranny so that it can be replaced while the engine is out of the car. So to sum my question up, can the camry 6 cyl mt be used w/o the mr2t parts?
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Mar 15, 2004 - 11:12 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 1, '03 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You can use the E series trans from the MR2 Turbo or Camry, or the S series trans from the 5F powered cars.
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West Michigan |
Mar 15, 2004 - 11:15 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
this might be a stupid question but why cant you use the jdm tranny that comes with the motor??
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Mar 15, 2004 - 11:38 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 10, '03 From FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
awd. celli is fwd |
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Mar 15, 2004 - 11:41 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
i know that just dont hook up the rear drive shaft and still use the front shafts
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Mar 16, 2004 - 2:29 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 15, '03 From San Jose, CA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
the transfer box or whatever would be in the way i believe, amongst other things.
and to blkgt, the mr2 tranny can be used. I dont know what your saying about it being to small, all you need to do is use the different axcels, half the axcels from the mr2, and half the axcels from the camry. |
Mar 16, 2004 - 9:24 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
And I have pictures of the axles that I used in my project diary. Just go to the Completed Engine Swaps sticky... |
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Mar 18, 2004 - 8:13 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 30, '03 From Columbus, Georgia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Have you ever even seen an AWD transmission?? im guessing on no. |
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Mar 18, 2004 - 9:02 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
i havn't seen an awd tranny thats why i ask the question I always see guys talking about the mr2 turbo tranny or the v6 camry tranny i just wanted to know if anyone stuck with the origenal gt4 tranny
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Mar 18, 2004 - 9:46 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 21, '04 From Oklahoma Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
My head hurts.
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