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> 3S-GTE Trannies, Worthy of the power
post Aug 29, 2003 - 7:12 PM
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So I still wouldnt be able to use the entire MR2T transaxles, just the innershafts with the stock outter


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post Sep 2, 2003 - 3:10 AM
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The 3SGE Curren and SSII / SSIII Celica's came with the S54 trans. It rumored that the gear ratio was revised, but most of the internals are the same as the S54 on the GT Celica's.

On that note, who is saying the S54 trans is weak? Ryan's T67 powered 3SGTE 6th gen put down over 500HP on the dyno at CJ Motorsports using the stock S54 trans!
There are 3 companies that make a LSD unit for the S54 as well. The only advantage of the E series trans is the gear ratio - which is better for top end and cruising. The S54 has a higher ratio, making it better for drag.


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post Sep 2, 2003 - 12:50 PM
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QUOTE (scothaniel @ Sep 2, 2003 - 1:10 AM)
The 3SGE Curren and SSII / SSIII Celica's came with the S54 trans. It rumored that the gear ratio was revised, but most of the internals are the same as the S54 on the GT Celica's.

On that note, who is saying the S54 trans is weak? Ryan's T67 powered 3SGTE 6th gen put down over 500HP on the dyno at CJ Motorsports using the stock S54 trans!
There are 3 companies that make a LSD unit for the S54 as well. The only advantage of the E series trans is the gear ratio - which is better for top end and cruising. The S54 has a higher ratio, making it better for drag.

Scott: I'm saying that it's weak... I've seen many instance where this tranny blew up... Super is one example, Clayton on Celica.net another, and other people you all aren't familiar with here in Cali. The only time I've heard of the S54 withstanding the torque of a 3S-GTE is with that Ryan dude... and the only way that I can see a S54 lasting is if it's brand spanking new, or rebuilt...

post Sep 2, 2003 - 12:50 PM
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This topic was started due to the fact that my tranny blew itself a new asshole 3 days after I got the 3sgte on the road. Now, I have heard that GT with 500+hp but how much mileage does it have? I had 185,000. Thats alot of mileage for just stock engine and pretty impressive i think. And it wasnt the gears the blew out, it was the bellhousing.


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post Mar 9, 2004 - 10:55 PM
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so could you not go to car-part.com and get the mr2 tranny as well? and couldnt you go to autozone to get axles? or would it generally be more expensive? confused.gif
post Mar 10, 2004 - 11:50 AM
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There was a celica 5sfe turbo florida that was doing 380 whp with stock tranny. I think he since switched to a camry tranny but only to get his top speed up. never had any problems with the stock one, just kept good gear oil in it and shifted smooth and it was fine.

remember too: people blow these trannies up all the time on STOCK celicas too. It's called bad driving and clashing gears or beating on it in general. I'll probably blow mine up soon too...but so far I'm at about 1500 miles with the swap and still doing ok.

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post Mar 10, 2004 - 12:22 PM
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W00t for topic resurection...

Mainly what has been said a million times is a GT tranny (s54) can be used, sometimes its good, sometimes its not. But mainly its generaly safer to go with the MR2/camry v6 tranny.
post Mar 10, 2004 - 1:12 PM
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Heres the deal with mine, i didnt blow the tranny i blew the bellhousing. There was improper stress placed upon it and it blew a hole. The actual gears are ok although the synchros are going. But they were going before i did the swap. I've done 5,000 miles not going over 4K rpm and 90mph and its been ok. Only time will tell....just be gentle on it.


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post Mar 15, 2004 - 12:59 AM
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nothing.

This post has been edited by Chrobis: Mar 15, 2004 - 1:16 AM
post Mar 15, 2004 - 8:20 AM
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so, is there a automatic tranny that will work(can anyone confirm kuya's auto mr2)?


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post Mar 15, 2004 - 10:22 PM
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so ive read thru this many times, and i am still lost. Its obvious that you cant use the mr2t transmission because it is two short as kuya has stated. So does that mean that you could use the e series 6cyl camry transmission by itself and be safe? Now what Kuya was talking about on mixing the two was so that he could have the limited slip of the mr2 mixed with teh correct size of the camry. I am not to worried about the lsd right now, i just want the e series tranny so that it can be replaced while the engine is out of the car. So to sum my question up, can the camry 6 cyl mt be used w/o the mr2t parts?
post Mar 15, 2004 - 11:12 PM
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You can use the E series trans from the MR2 Turbo or Camry, or the S series trans from the 5F powered cars.


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post Mar 15, 2004 - 11:15 PM
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this might be a stupid question but why cant you use the jdm tranny that comes with the motor?? confused.gif


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post Mar 15, 2004 - 11:38 PM
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QUOTE (nik @ Mar 15, 2004 - 9:15 PM)
this might be a stupid question but why cant you use the jdm tranny that comes with the motor?? confused.gif

awd. celli is fwd
post Mar 15, 2004 - 11:41 PM
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i know that wink.gif just dont hook up the rear drive shaft and still use the front shafts


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post Mar 16, 2004 - 2:29 AM
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the transfer box or whatever would be in the way i believe, amongst other things.

and to blkgt, the mr2 tranny can be used. I dont know what your saying about it being to small, all you need to do is use the different axcels, half the axcels from the mr2, and half the axcels from the camry.
post Mar 16, 2004 - 9:24 PM
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QUOTE (Chrobis @ Mar 16, 2004 - 12:29 AM)
the transfer box or whatever would be in the way i believe, amongst other things.

and to blkgt, the mr2 tranny can be used. I dont know what your saying about it being to small, all you need to do is use the different axcels, half the axcels from the mr2, and half the axcels from the camry.

And I have pictures of the axles that I used in my project diary. Just go to the Completed Engine Swaps sticky...
post Mar 18, 2004 - 8:13 PM
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QUOTE (nik @ Mar 15, 2004 - 9:41 PM)
i know that wink.gif just dont hook up the rear drive shaft and still use the front shafts

Have you ever even seen an AWD transmission?? im guessing on no.
post Mar 18, 2004 - 9:02 PM
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i havn't seen an awd tranny thats why i ask the question I always see guys talking about the mr2 turbo tranny or the v6 camry tranny i just wanted to know if anyone stuck with the origenal gt4 tranny frown.gif


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post Mar 18, 2004 - 9:46 PM
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