 3S-GTE Trannies, Worthy of the power |
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 Mar 18, 2004 - 9:47 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
nik,
From my understanding of AWD and FWD, owning both of the same car, the AWD loses roughly 1/4 HP in transferring the power to the rear wheels. I believe you can hook up the AWD tranny to car, however you'd lose tremdious power going to nothing... and what good is that. However, I dont even know if theres room for the AWD tranny on the FWD body. Then again... make it really easy. Import a GT4, switch VIN plates, tint your windows really really dark and have fun for at least a week. Its a whole lot easier than all this swap stuff. lol. And for all you over-thinkers... dont take this serious. |
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Mar 18, 2004 - 9:56 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
thanks for explaining it that helps
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Mar 31, 2004 - 10:07 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Woa woa woa. I've been lurking here for a long time, but when I saw something so horribly blatantly wrong, I just had to register and correct it. Think about this for a second. FF = Transverse mounted engine and tranny, drives the front wheels sitting under the engine MR = Transverse mounted engine and tranny, drives the rear wheels sitting under the engine FR = Longitudal mounted engine and tranny, drives rear wheels with a driveshaft running from the front to the back of the car. TOTALLY DIFFERENT TRANSMISSION!!! An MR tranny is the exact same as a FF tranny, but a FR tranny... no. The FR tranny only has a place for one large driveshaft, the FF and MR have places for two halfshafts.  BTW: FF = Front engine front wheels FR = Front engine rear wheels MR = Mid engine rear wheels -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
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Mar 31, 2004 - 12:23 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 8, '03 From San Jose, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah, the same... but the forks will sit on opposite sides. - aba This post has been edited by abatardi: Mar 31, 2004 - 12:25 PM |
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Mar 31, 2004 - 12:54 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Thanks for the confirmation. |
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Mar 31, 2004 - 1:13 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 15, '03 From San Jose, CA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
yeh i thought this was clear already... |
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Mar 31, 2004 - 1:18 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Not dissagreeing with you but I have a JDM 93 3s-ge trans and to use it on a 3sgte I would have to swap the bell housing off a 5sfe trans... Reason being is that the starter is located in the wrong position. the start exits out towards the exhaust manifold instead of away from it as the 5sfe, 3sgte and later model 3s-ge transmissions. as it sits right now it would hit the lower half of the turbo. I can post pics of it to further show this as for fitting the 3sgte tranny into the US spec 6GC it will fit just fine (somone posted about this on the last page).. the problem with just putting it in there and not hookin up there rear is that the transfer case will just sit and spin while your car goes nowhere  edit: let me explain a little better... the car will move but not very fast and you will lose alot of your power as the transmission will try and send the power from the motor to the point of least resisitance.. the transfercase with nothing hooked up to it.. I tried this just to see what would happen.. I also tried welding in a bar to lock the transfer case and that worked for but only for a short time until that broke, think I got around the block a couple of times before it started to flex to the point where it busted This post has been edited by NEVERSTOP: Mar 31, 2004 - 1:24 PM --------------------  99 project version 3.0.. hello SEMA 2010 =) |
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Apr 1, 2004 - 2:47 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 29, '03 From Davenport, IA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hmmm but from looking at my 3sge tranny, it seems that it might fit perfectly on my st185 engine. I have never put it up against it and tried but.....thats what I'm guessing. NEVERSTOP, call me in the morning and get your ass over here for a few minutes and check it out with me. If it won't fit, sh3t, I'll just sell it and get a MR2 w/LSD. |
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Apr 5, 2004 - 11:36 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 10, '03 From FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ok ok , so i cant just use a straight 6cyl camry transmission. I MUST mate it with the mr2. plus that gives me the limited slip option?
Itd be so much nicer if the camry would just work by itself
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Jun 30, 2004 - 3:06 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 27, '04 From ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
I have heard that you can use the gt4 trany and make it fwd by removing the rear output shaft and making an cover to seal it up is this recomended?
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Jun 30, 2004 - 4:22 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
no thats not a very good idea.
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Jun 30, 2004 - 5:06 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Read NEVERSTOP's post in this thread. It makes sense why using the AWD tranny is not a good idea.
-------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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May 4, 2006 - 7:29 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '04 From Finland Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hi.
I have ST202 celica 3S-GE with 129kw. I need new gearbox. My old ones code is E56, wtf is that ? and which transmissions are compatible with this one ? My car is from Germany and im living in Finland. Thanks. |
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May 4, 2006 - 7:37 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 15, '05 From Frederick, Maryland Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (75%) |
what,.... i am using an awd tranny and it makes perfect sense
This post has been edited by yungazzdriver: May 4, 2006 - 7:38 AM |
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May 4, 2006 - 2:17 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Belhan @ May 4, 2006 - 7:29 AM) [snapback]429964[/snapback] Hi. I have ST202 celica 3S-GE with 129kw. I need new gearbox. My old ones code is E56, wtf is that ? and which transmissions are compatible with this one ? My car is from Germany and im living in Finland. Thanks. Where you get that code from? All ST202's came with S-54 trannies. Just look for another Celica with a 3S-GE and take the tranny off of that. |
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May 4, 2006 - 3:38 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '04 From Finland Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ May 4, 2006 - 7:17 PM) [snapback]430126[/snapback] QUOTE(Belhan @ May 4, 2006 - 7:29 AM) [snapback]429964[/snapback] Hi. I have ST202 celica 3S-GE with 129kw. I need new gearbox. My old ones code is E56, wtf is that ? and which transmissions are compatible with this one ? My car is from Germany and im living in Finland. Thanks. Where you get that code from? All ST202's came with S-54 trannies. Just look for another Celica with a 3S-GE and take the tranny off of that. I found it from that plate where is written all information about ur car, like chassis code and stuff.(i dont know whats the right name in english) Anyway its under the hood  Checked it with local toyota serviceman after he told that there is 2 kind of transmissions for st202. We have only this celica in this town(20k citizens). So even the service cant tell me all what i want to know Because this is the first one which they need to handle.Anyway i catch one tranny from finland which got about 40000miles on it. It costs 600$. Much cheaper than repair the old one btw. we have crazy prices for these cars. I paid ~16000$ 2years ago...
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