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 Apr 2, 2008 - 9:42 PM
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Enthusiast  Joined Sep 6, '04 From Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
Hello everyone I was just wondering if anyone here knows why the GT-FOUR wasn't available here in North America. Please specify any important reason. I am doing a report on it for school.
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Apr 2, 2008 - 9:50 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 15, '02 From Tasmania(Australia) Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
because it was known as an alltrac not a GT-Four
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Apr 2, 2008 - 10:00 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 29, '03 From 캘리포니아 Currently Offline Reputation: 23 (100%) |
You're referring to the ST205 only correct? It's because the ST185 models sold poorly in North America.
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Apr 2, 2008 - 11:04 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
You should do a report on how Toyota was banned from Rallying for a year. Better story there. I guarantee you if Toyota were to bring an Alltrac here in the US it would compete with the Sti's and Evos in sales.
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Apr 2, 2008 - 11:16 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 16, '03 From Bay area Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
hmm this is gonna be a tough answer, mainly because your in canada and not in the USA. I can give you the american answer and hope it helps.
One of the reason was the gt4 was turbo charged which required toyota to add extra emission devices to comply with california (and other states) standards. The second reason was, the market for a small sporty car was pretty competitive. You would have to look at the competition at the time. The american mustang was cheap and powerful, the eclipse gsx was already a 4 wheel drive turbocharged car on the market, the integra GSR was dominating the small import scene. This is also the reason why we didn't get the SSIII. Instead toyota decided to put there efforts else where, such as the MR2 turbo and Supra. They also did some market research and the main buyers of the celica was females. So why would toyota go out and enter a already full market? I could bust out some hardcore business terms and do a SWOT analysis but it might get too confusing. To put in a very very brief solution, toyota did the math. They did not think they would make money to go through all the trouble to get the GT4 into the states. All this was backed up by the previous generations of poor all-trac sales. I actually wrote a research paper bashing the american car industry in college.  |
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Apr 2, 2008 - 11:19 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 21, '07 From I-59 -N- 610 Houston, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
haha ya ^ that pretty much sums it up ^
but i wanna know why toyota was banned.... im to lazy to research it right now... |
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Apr 2, 2008 - 11:34 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 21, '06 From New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(monkey @ Apr 3, 2008 - 5:19 PM) [snapback]661102[/snapback] haha ya ^ that pretty much sums it up ^ but i wanna know why toyota was banned.... im to lazy to research it right now... They cheated 
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Apr 4, 2008 - 2:57 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 25, '06 From Hong Kong Currently Offline Reputation: 256 (100%) |
QUOTE(MercuryFree @ Apr 3, 2008 - 12:34 PM) [snapback]661111[/snapback] QUOTE(monkey @ Apr 3, 2008 - 5:19 PM) [snapback]661102[/snapback] haha ya ^ that pretty much sums it up ^ but i wanna know why toyota was banned.... im to lazy to research it right now... They cheated http://www.rallycars.com/Cars/Toyota_GT4/Celica2.html 
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Apr 4, 2008 - 9:28 AM
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Apr 4, 2008 - 1:59 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 6, '04 From Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Aight .. thanks to all that replied..
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