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post Dec 29, 2002 - 12:44 PM
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First of all good site! I just registerd and this will be my first topic wink.gif . Can you put an 7th Gen VVT-I in an 6th gen without problems?
I am planning to buy an wrecked 6th gen and build it up with all new things.

Thnx already !


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post Dec 29, 2002 - 12:56 PM
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that sounds like quite a project. I hope you have lots of money cause rebuilding these 6th Gens are no fun. Hardly anyone makes parts for the 6th Gen and most universal crap won't fit. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone planting a 7th gen engine in a wrecked 6th gen, but I'm more than certain it's going to take more effort than it's worth.
I'd strongly recomend doing a lot of research into how much it's going to cost to repair the car and factor in all the parts and mods and body work etc before you dive in.
post Dec 29, 2002 - 1:14 PM
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Ah ok.... , maybe if I see a cheap 6th gen i'd buy that instead of buying a wrecked. I dont live in the USA so maybe we have more parts laying arround here in Europe. I was planning on buying a 6th gen who had a lot of miles or was wrecked so I would get it cheap. I would like to see what a 6th gen can do with 140hp that's comming out of that neat looking 7th gen VVT-I biggrin.gif

We got a lot of clubs here in The Netherlands so I might ask if someone could help me realising this project smile.gif

If anyone ever did this plz react!

Thnx for your time

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post Dec 29, 2002 - 1:49 PM
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Maybe you'd do best to find a cheap sixth gen with lots of miles, and then do either a 3s-gte swap if you get a gt, or a 4a-ge or 4a-gze swap if you get a st. I know that a fairly new seventh gen engine with low miles is gonna cost a lot of money; probably much more than any of those engines I mentioned.


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post Dec 29, 2002 - 3:15 PM
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are those engines you are mentioning n/a or turbocharged? I'd prefer n/a thats why i would like to have an 7th gen under the hood.
post Dec 29, 2002 - 3:54 PM
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with money anything can happen.
post Dec 29, 2002 - 6:17 PM
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i 2nd that
post Dec 29, 2002 - 7:14 PM
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QUOTE (NiTTo @ Dec 29 2002, 01:14 PM)
Ah ok.... , maybe if I see a cheap 6th gen i'd buy that instead of buying a wrecked. I dont live in the USA so maybe we have more parts laying arround here in Europe. I was planning on buying a 6th gen who had a lot of miles or was wrecked so I would get it cheap. I would like to see what a 6th gen can do with 140hp that's comming out of that neat looking 7th gen VVT-I biggrin.gif

We got a lot of clubs here in The Netherlands so I might ask if someone could help me realising this project smile.gif

If anyone ever did this plz react!

Thnx for your time

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Man you got it good your can get a gt4. thats what i would try to get if i was you


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post Dec 29, 2002 - 9:02 PM
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are those engines you are mentioning n/a or turbocharged? I'd prefer n/a thats why i would like to have an 7th gen under the hood.


why the hell would u want a N/A engine when you can get a turboed or charged engine with the cash u are talking about spending for a 7th gne motor.... but if u really want the N/A get the 3sge or just keep the motor that would be in the celica u want to buy.

otherwise the 3sgte swap is the best.... getting just a GT4 would be ur best bet but there not cheap/.


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post Jan 8, 2003 - 4:44 PM
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could i get some more info abpout that 3sge engine ou are talking about plz. I found out it produces 170hp I would really like to now how much NM (metric ft lbs) it procudes. Btw the 3sge is a 2 litre right?
post Jan 8, 2003 - 4:47 PM
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uhmmm....

3S-GE 4 1998 (2.0 liter) DOHC VVT-i1 197@7000 rpm2 152@6000 rpm3 None
is this it?
Isn't that the engine I am talking about (7th gen engine?) ??
7th gen engine is a 1.8.

Plz can u post a pic of the car where this engine is coming from?

and how can I calculate the ammount of ft lbs in metric Newtonmeter?
post Jan 8, 2003 - 8:05 PM
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One major problem with putting in a 7th gen 1ZZ or 2ZZ engine in a 6th gen is the weight. The ZZ engines don't have enough torque. The 6th gen Celica is heavier than the 7th gen. You are better off going with the 3S-GE engine if you want to go n/a. These numbers are rough est. Hope this helps.

1986 - 1989
Engine: 3S-GE
Horse Power: 135@6000
Torque: 125@4800
Displacement: 2.0L
Bore & Stroke: 3.39 x 3.39
Compression Ratio: 9.2

1990 - 1995
Engine: 3S-GE
Horse Power: 156@6600
Torque: 137@4800

1996 - 1998
Engine: 3S-GE
Horse Power: 180@7000
Torque: 142@4800

1999 - Present
Engine: 3S-GE VVT-I Added
Horse Power: 200@7000
Torque: 152@6000


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post Jan 9, 2003 - 12:02 AM
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oh to live in a land where gt4's rome free...
post Jan 9, 2003 - 12:49 PM
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Thnx for the info. There is also a toyota celica 2.2 litre engine. Does any1 have info about that engine?
I would like to have an engine in my celica wich has enormous amounts of torque but isn't turbocharged.

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