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[Sh0gunkid8721]

Chris Paul was ROBBED and shoulda won MVP honors. Led the league in steals and assists and still managed to drop about 21 ppg is nice. Especially with a team like the Hornets where they lack the star power. Kobe was great all year but it was the Gasol trade that really turned their season around (28-15 before Gasol trade). Kobe also had Lamar Odom who was SOLID through the playoffs. With Bynum goin down, without that Gasol trade, they wouldnt be where they are right now... Paul was on a team that nobody wanted to go to especially after Katrina. He's by far the best point in the league and is one of the best defensive players as well and his 5 steals per game says so.

This post has been edited by Sh0gunkid8721: May 26, 2008 - 6:01 PM

[CelicaST_CALI]

also phil jackson ^^^^^cant forget the zen mastu

[CAMAricer]

I hate how people say Kobe made the Lakers better this year. I call BS!

Can't a player just get better on their own without owing their success to Kobe?!?

WTH, Bynum's better b/c of Kobe and not b/c he's maturing after being in the league for a few years? Same goes for Farmer, Sasha, etc.

And the fact that Kobe's number were worse than Lebron's or CP3 yet still wins MVP shows how stupid the MVP awards really is. Hornets were 1 game behind the Lakers in standing so you can't say team record played a big role in MVP consideration. Like I said before, if it was based on stats, LeBron would have won it , no contest. Dude average close to a triple double (pts ~30, reb and ast ~8)! That's almost unheard of (only Jordan and Big O achieved these types of numbers). And who's got the crappiest team of these three? LeBron, duh! Too bad the MVP voters are all sheep and only voted for Kobe b/c they felt they "owed" him an MVP for the previous years. Total BS...


Let's see if Cheap-shot Rob and Ankle-breaker Bowen sends Kobe off with a few departing gifts.

[j0e_p3t]

the lakers got much better this year. pretty much all of them stepped their game up. i honestly think this is the only season i thought kobe deserved mvp. previous seasons, kobe would force a shot whenever he got doubled (and actually make them most of the time or free throws). but now he passes to the open guy. so the other players wouldn't be getting those easy wide open shots if it weren't for kobe. he's no longer getting 40 points a game, but getting assists in double figures. so yeah, all them other lakers have become better players and an overall better team. but all good teams need a good leader. and that's why kobe got my vote. and btw... 3-1 lakers. like i said in a previous post... lakers over celtics. and kobe getting mvp.

[snapshotgt]

3-1 lakers.

That was such a foul. Bad call - no ref had the balls to call it with tenths of a second left.

Video of foul with TNT comments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRGHFJlJT3U

[j0e_p3t]

i have to admit... when i first saw it, i thought it was a foul. but after seeing the replays, the refs made a good call. cuz if barry just jumped straight up to take the shot, fisher wouldn't have jumped into him. if barry jumped into fisher in the act of shooting they probably would've called it. instead barry dribbled the ball into fisher. if anything, it would've been a foul before the shot and they'd have to inbound the ball with tenths of a sec left. but i don't think there was enough contact for that.

[tomazws]

3-1 lakers.

That was such a foul. Bad call - no ref had the balls to call it with tenths of a second left.

Video of foul with TNT comments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRGHFJlJT3U

How unfortunate.

[snapshotgt]

i have to admit... when i first saw it, i thought it was a foul. but after seeing the replays, the refs made a good call. cuz if barry just jumped straight up to take the shot, fisher wouldn't have jumped into him. if barry jumped into fisher in the act of shooting they probably would've called it. instead barry dribbled the ball into fisher. if anything, it would've been a foul before the shot and they'd have to inbound the ball with tenths of a sec left. but i don't think there was enough contact for that.

The lakers were over the foul limit. 2 shots from the line would have still come if it had been called on the ground. If made, the game would have gone into OT.

[CAMAricer]

Come on, it's so obvious the NBA don't want a repeat of last year's lowest rating finals match up. They'll do anything to get Lakers vs Celtics again.

If the roles were reversed, and Lakers were down and Parker bumped Fisher (or Kobe) like that, the call would have been made.

3-1 lakers.

That was such a foul. Bad call - no ref had the balls to call it with tenths of a second left.

Video of foul with TNT comments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRGHFJlJT3U

[CelicaST_CALI]

the league admitted that should have been a foul..2 wrongs dont make a right...

[Sh0gunkid8721]

I hate how people say Kobe made the Lakers better this year. I call BS!

Can't a player just get better on their own without owing their success to Kobe?!?

WTH, Bynum's better b/c of Kobe and not b/c he's maturing after being in the league for a few years? Same goes for Farmer, Sasha, etc.

And the fact that Kobe's number were worse than Lebron's or CP3 yet still wins MVP shows how stupid the MVP awards really is. Hornets were 1 game behind the Lakers in standing so you can't say team record played a big role in MVP consideration. Like I said before, if it was based on stats, LeBron would have won it , no contest. Dude average close to a triple double (pts ~30, reb and ast ~8)! That's almost unheard of (only Jordan and Big O achieved these types of numbers). And who's got the crappiest team of these three? LeBron, duh! Too bad the MVP voters are all sheep and only voted for Kobe b/c they felt they "owed" him an MVP for the previous years. Total BS...


Let's see if Cheap-shot Rob and Ankle-breaker Bowen sends Kobe off with a few departing gifts.

I think Paul shoulda been MVP but you still give 70% of the Laker's success to Kobe. He's always carried that team but he struggled when he got all the attention. With Gasol there, that takes pressure off him and Gasol is the PERFECT fit for Jackson's triangle offense. A center that can pass, create shots off the dribble and is a low post threat can do wonders for a star like Bryant. Even stars need that 2nd go to guy..Jordan was good but he could only do so much. It wasnt till they got Pippen when the Bulls started to dominate. Same w/ Kobe. With Kobe the Lakers were good, but with the 1, 2 punch of Bryant and Gasol, they're where the Bulls were about a decade ago. Pierce and Garnett, Jordan and Pippen, Shaq and Penny, Shaq and Kobe, Parker and Duncan, Kobe and Gasol, Carmelo and Iverson, Magic and Kareem, Frazier and King...these teams dominate cuz they had that 1, 2 punch. Then you see players like Lebron James in Cleveland, Chris Paul in New Orleans, that struggle because they dont have that 2nd guy. Once those 2 get that 2nd guy, watch ou t.

Why i say Paul was robbed was simple...He was a 1 man wrecking crew. If the Hornets can land somebody BIG off free agency, whether its somebody like Josh Howard off a trade or some other big man. They'll be a dominant team. David West is a solid player but he's not "that" guy to carry them over the hump.

the lakers got much better this year. pretty much all of them stepped their game up. i honestly think this is the only season i thought kobe deserved mvp. previous seasons, kobe would force a shot whenever he got doubled (and actually make them most of the time or free throws). but now he passes to the open guy. so the other players wouldn't be getting those easy wide open shots if it weren't for kobe. he's no longer getting 40 points a game, but getting assists in double figures. so yeah, all them other lakers have become better players and an overall better team. but all good teams need a good leader. and that's why kobe got my vote. and btw... 3-1 lakers. like i said in a previous post... lakers over celtics. and kobe getting mvp.

He forced shots cuz he HAD to. Who did he have to rely on??? This is why i say the Gasol trade made their year and made Kobe the MVP. Without Gasol, the Lakers wouldve been eliminated by now and i guarantee Bryant wouldnt have won MVP.

Come on, it's so obvious the NBA don't want a repeat of last year's lowest rating finals match up. They'll do anything to get Lakers vs Celtics again.

If the roles were reversed, and Lakers were down and Parker bumped Fisher (or Kobe) like that, the call would have been made.

3-1 lakers.

That was such a foul. Bad call - no ref had the balls to call it with tenths of a second left.

Video of foul with TNT comments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRGHFJlJT3U

Whatever...it was a horrible call but the Lakers dominated the Spurs thorughout the playoffs. I highly doubt that, that wouldve changed the outcome of the entire series.

[j0e_p3t]

gasol was an extremely valuable addition to the lakers. bynum showed increasing potential this season, but the lakers kinda got lucky he got injured. if that didn't happen, no gasol. and he really does compliment kobe so well. but yeah, props to kobe for leading the lakers to be the wc champs.

[CelicaST_CALI]

I hate how people say Kobe made the Lakers better this year. I call BS!


Let's see if Cheap-shot Rob and Ankle-breaker Bowen sends Kobe off with a few departing gifts.

I think Paul shoulda been MVP but you still give 70% of the Laker's success to Kobe. He's always carried that team but he struggled when he got all the attention. With Gasol there, that takes pressure off him and Gasol is the PERFECT fit for Jackson's triangle offense. A center that can pass, create shots off the dribble and is a low post threat can do wonders for a star like Bryant. Even stars need that 2nd go to guy..Jordan was good but he could only do so much. It wasnt till they got Pippen when the Bulls started to dominate. Same w/ Kobe. With Kobe the Lakers were good, but with the 1, 2 punch of Bryant and Gasol, they're where the Bulls were about a decade ago. Pierce and Garnett, Jordan and Pippen, Shaq and Penny, Shaq and Kobe, Parker and Duncan, Kobe and Gasol, Carmelo and Iverson, Magic and Kareem, Frazier and King...these teams dominate cuz they had that 1, 2 punch. Then you see players like Lebron James in Cleveland, Chris Paul in New Orleans, that struggle because they dont have that 2nd guy. Once those 2 get that 2nd guy, watch ou t.

Why i say Paul was robbed was simple...He was a 1 man wrecking crew. If the Hornets can land somebody BIG off free agency, whether its somebody like Josh Howard off a trade or some other big man. They'll be a dominant team. David West is a solid player but he's not "that" guy to carry them over the hump.

the lakers got much better this year. pretty much all of them stepped their game up. i honestly think this is the only season i thought kobe deserved mvp. previous seasons, kobe would force a shot whenever he got doubled (and actually make them most of the time or free throws). but now he passes to the open guy. so the other players wouldn't be getting those easy wide open shots if it weren't for kobe. he's no longer getting 40 points a game, but getting assists in double figures. so yeah, all them other lakers have become better players and an overall better team. but all good teams need a good leader. and that's why kobe got my vote. and btw... 3-1 lakers. like i said in a previous post... lakers over celtics. and kobe getting mvp.

He forced shots cuz he HAD to. Who did he have to rely on??? This is why i say the Gasol trade made their year and made Kobe the MVP. Without Gasol, the Lakers wouldve been eliminated by now and i guarantee Bryant wouldnt have won MVP.

Come on, it's so obvious the NBA don't want a repeat of last year's lowest rating finals match up. They'll do anything to get Lakers vs Celtics again.

If the roles were reversed, and Lakers were down and Parker bumped Fisher (or Kobe) like that, the call would have been made.

3-1 lakers.

That was such a foul. Bad call - no ref had the balls to call it with tenths of a second left.

Video of foul with TNT comments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRGHFJlJT3U

Whatever...it was a horrible call but the Lakers dominated the Spurs thorughout the playoffs. I highly doubt that, that wouldve changed the outcome of the entire series.

you cannot compare kobe to jordan,with out phil jackson kobe bryant would be close to nothing

This post has been edited by CelicaST_CALI: May 29, 2008 - 11:45 PM

[Sh0gunkid8721]

I hate how people say Kobe made the Lakers better this year. I call BS!


Let's see if Cheap-shot Rob and Ankle-breaker Bowen sends Kobe off with a few departing gifts.

I think Paul shoulda been MVP but you still give 70% of the Laker's success to Kobe. He's always carried that team but he struggled when he got all the attention. With Gasol there, that takes pressure off him and Gasol is the PERFECT fit for Jackson's triangle offense. A center that can pass, create shots off the dribble and is a low post threat can do wonders for a star like Bryant. Even stars need that 2nd go to guy..Jordan was good but he could only do so much. It wasnt till they got Pippen when the Bulls started to dominate. Same w/ Kobe. With Kobe the Lakers were good, but with the 1, 2 punch of Bryant and Gasol, they're where the Bulls were about a decade ago. Pierce and Garnett, Jordan and Pippen, Shaq and Penny, Shaq and Kobe, Parker and Duncan, Kobe and Gasol, Carmelo and Iverson, Magic and Kareem, Frazier and King...these teams dominate cuz they had that 1, 2 punch. Then you see players like Lebron James in Cleveland, Chris Paul in New Orleans, that struggle because they dont have that 2nd guy. Once those 2 get that 2nd guy, watch ou t.

Why i say Paul was robbed was simple...He was a 1 man wrecking crew. If the Hornets can land somebody BIG off free agency, whether its somebody like Josh Howard off a trade or some other big man. They'll be a dominant team. David West is a solid player but he's not "that" guy to carry them over the hump.

the lakers got much better this year. pretty much all of them stepped their game up. i honestly think this is the only season i thought kobe deserved mvp. previous seasons, kobe would force a shot whenever he got doubled (and actually make them most of the time or free throws). but now he passes to the open guy. so the other players wouldn't be getting those easy wide open shots if it weren't for kobe. he's no longer getting 40 points a game, but getting assists in double figures. so yeah, all them other lakers have become better players and an overall better team. but all good teams need a good leader. and that's why kobe got my vote. and btw... 3-1 lakers. like i said in a previous post... lakers over celtics. and kobe getting mvp.

He forced shots cuz he HAD to. Who did he have to rely on??? This is why i say the Gasol trade made their year and made Kobe the MVP. Without Gasol, the Lakers wouldve been eliminated by now and i guarantee Bryant wouldnt have won MVP.

Come on, it's so obvious the NBA don't want a repeat of last year's lowest rating finals match up. They'll do anything to get Lakers vs Celtics again.

If the roles were reversed, and Lakers were down and Parker bumped Fisher (or Kobe) like that, the call would have been made.

3-1 lakers.

That was such a foul. Bad call - no ref had the balls to call it with tenths of a second left.

Video of foul with TNT comments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRGHFJlJT3U

Whatever...it was a horrible call but the Lakers dominated the Spurs thorughout the playoffs. I highly doubt that, that wouldve changed the outcome of the entire series.

you cannot compare kobe to jordan,with out phil jackson kobe bryant would be close to nothing

Wow ur an ignorant SOB...When did i ever compare kobe to jordan in the way they play? Point it out. The only thing i said is that Kobe needed somebody else the way Jordan needed Pippen to help the Bulls get over the hump; and he got that help in Gasol. Gasol is the Pippen of the Lakers... Its an indirect comparison. I never said Kobe plays as good as Jordan or is the next Jordan did I? LOL

Ignorance man...

This post has been edited by Sh0gunkid8721: May 30, 2008 - 12:08 AM

[CelicaST_CALI]

lol it seems i cant get away from u,im just saying kobe is on of the best players when he is on,phil jackson makes the team click which causes kobe to click,jordan was always clicking

[Sh0gunkid8721]

lol it seems i cant get away from u,im just saying kobe is on of the best players when he is on,phil jackson makes the team click which causes kobe to click,jordan was always clicking

ummm so what does that have anything to do what i said before? don't call me out if you dont know what you're talkin about.

[CelicaST_CALI]

you are trying to compare kobe and jordan with needing another player to go to,kobe doesn't need another player he needs a team that will give him the ball and not ask questions

[j0e_p3t]

^ have you watched a laker game recently? last season i'd agree with your ballhog kobe statement. but not anymore. i mean, he'll take over when he needs to, but he doesn't really have to do that anymore with a team that can play. and no one really compares kobe to mike anymore. they said so a few years back when he showed potential and people claimed he would be the next mike just cuz they're both gaurds. everyone realizes by now that there's only one mike, and kobe's just the first kobe.

[CelicaST_CALI]

yea i must say he has become a much better player this year than last year,but he should not of gotten mvp imo.HE should have gotten it a few years ago when he got huge points and was a baby back bitch but he played better back then as a single player.

[tomazws]

yea i must say he has become a much better player this year than last year,but he should not of gotten mvp imo.HE should have gotten it a few years ago when he got huge points and was a baby back bitch but he played better back then as a single player.

Doesn't matter to me.. cuz they just WOOOOOOOOOOON!!!! w00t w00t!!!!


Now let's see if they're gonna play Garnett's team or that maskman's team