New member. Celica SS-III BEAMS Options

[Ronan]

Had the Celica on the dyno today in WCP.





Fitted a set of Trust GReddy spark plugs first as my NGK-Rs where a bit old. Things started off well, VVTi kicked in nicely and it climbed strongly to 5krpm but then the fuel took a dive. Seriously lean from 5k to 7k, witch is where its supposed to make most of its power. As a result it made a pitiful 167bhp at the fly.

Ive ordered a 255ltr/h fuel pump and an Apexi SAFC Neo to manage the Fuel. A bit of tuning the Neo on the dyno should see my fuel stick steadily to where it was before 5krpm returning my figure to 180-190bhp if all goes well. Witch wont be bad for a ten year old engine that is 200ps (about 190bhp) as standard and ment to be run on japanese jungle juice. Torque on the other hand was spot on. Toyota claim 158ftlbs and it made 156-158 and rising through out the revs.

YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHuuFRMF_N4

I removed the bong in the exhaust so instead of its usual rasp its a defining roar. My camera phone couldn't cope with the sound so the quality isnt great. If you look closley you'll see one guy holding his ears and the driver rolling up the window to keep the noise out

Also getting the AirCon removed when i go back down to shed some much needed weight. Not much need for it in Ireland unforunatly

This post has been edited by Ronan: Sep 20, 2008 - 4:10 PM

[delusionz]

Great stuff! I love your SS-III, What RPM does VVT-i hit? and what is your redline?

[Rusty]

As a result it made a pitiful 167bhp at the fly.

AHa? what?? thats not right
new SS-III(3S-GE VVT-i) has 197.264HP at the flywheel. What Happened?

Great stuff! I love your SS-III, What RPM does VVT-i hit? and what is your redline?

I dont know when it hits VVT-i, but redline is still the same (same guages just the white BEAMS version)


This post has been edited by Rusty: Sep 21, 2008 - 1:46 AM

[Ronan]

As i said above, It has serious fuelling issues. Its starved for fuel from 5k upwards. 255ltrh fuel pump and remap through the Apexi neo will sort it out soon and bring it back to full power.

It has the standard redline of 7k. Would prefer 8k though

Im not sure about VVTi. I know on my AE111 the VVT worked by trottle postiton, not full on at a certain rev like VTEC

This post has been edited by Ronan: Sep 21, 2008 - 1:54 PM

[Ronan]

Ive no graph as his printer was down but from looking at the monitor this was roughly the problem:



The fuel is fine and bordering on rich up until 5k then it takes a massive dive. Starving the car of fuel.

The Walbro 255 liter an hour fuel pump im getting fitted is good for 500bhp and it will be all controlled by this gizmo:



"
The SAFC NEO marks the newest edition to the world famous Super AFC line of piggy back fuel controllers. Building upon the powerful SAFC II, the AFC NEO has taken piggy back style fuel control to a new level. The AFC NEO boasts an incredible 16 points of user definable fuel correction. VTEC control has also been incorporated for Honda/Acura applications. A complete monitor mode is also available to keep the driver/tuner informed of critical engine data.

Features include:

- Completely new case design
- Compact design
- Incorporates both AFC and VAFC functions in one unit
- 16 point fuel correction
- Color FED display
- User defined button and background colors
- Inverted "anti-glare" screen"

Does anybody know what size BEAMS injectors are?

This post has been edited by Ronan: Sep 21, 2008 - 2:21 PM

[delusionz]

U may need an adjustable fuel pressure regulator with a new pump

possibly new injectors aswell, let us know if you end up maxing your standard injector duty cycle

[Rusty]

sounds like you have a split hose in the vac hose for FPR or something

I wouldn't be driving it like like that you'd be doing some serious damage right

[DEATH]

Too bad it won't control the VVT like it does for Vtec - that would be the sh*t. You should be able to pull at least a few HP with a better than stock tune tho right?
Why wouldn't you want to fix the actual problem rather than bandaid it tho?

[Ronan]

I am fixing the actual problem. the problem is it isnt getting enough fuel when under haevy demand and it has been traced to the fuel pump so its being replace with one thats good for 500bhp. I should get my power back and i'll build upwards from there over time.

[Rusty]

so is it fixed and running smooth now?

[Ronan]

so is it fixed and running smooth now?

It was pulling 167bhp with the exhaust silencer out (VERY loud!!) and 145bhp with the silencer IN. It is now making 170bhp with the silencer IN which is a 25bhp increase. My exhaust is too loud to run without the silencer. I must infest in a new one.

The power delivery is MUCH better. Before it would run out of puff at 5k but now it pulls strongly all the way to the rev limiter.

Im going to get new bigger injectors and a fuel pressure regulator and see if i can claim back more of my missing power. A better exhaust and cold air intake would be worth getting too as i am sucking in alot of hot air and my exhaust is just too loud to run open and too restricted with the silencer in plus STILL too loud.

Also my SS-III spoiler was stolen




On a scrapyard search for a spoiler i stumbled across these and got them for a bargain:

Im only using the left Recaro as my driver seat. The left one is a bit rough for my liking plus its a bit bent as the chassis twisted it and roof squashed it.

This post has been edited by Ronan: Dec 26, 2008 - 8:17 PM

[RickJamesBish]

Sorry about your spoiler, but that's fate telling you to go wingless and giving you a new seat at the same time.

[whatthe]

omg how does one get their spoiler stolen? thats such sad news what assholes tho....

[Ronan]

omg how does one get their spoiler stolen? thats such sad news what assholes tho....

They'd steal anything the scum. It was taken from right outside my front door.






Just won a set of used TRD Suskit coilovers on ebay: http://tuning-hq.com/parts_suskit.html
Im going to replace the fiqure of 8 link when im fitting them.

[raz128]

sorry to hear about the spoiler being stolen..........that's just rotten

[BonzaiCelica]

hey sorry for the spoiler. So the left passenger seat is too tall, you said it hits the roof. How much lighter are those seats than stock?

Hey Rusty, getting 169 whp from 3sge beams redtop is where it should be at.

An integra type r Jap spec gets the same wheel horspower. of course you have to remember, fwd drivetrain.

I thought you were selling your car??

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Sep 19, 2009 - 6:56 PM

[Rusty]

Hey Rusty, getting 169 whp from 3sge beams redtop is where it should be at.

yup agree, except he was making 167BHP (thats at the flywheel should be making 197BHP and 169WHP)

[delusionz]

What's the latest Ronan? It's been a while. Sorry I left the SS-III crew