GOOOO OBAMA!!, IM SO PROUD! Options

[6gen94gt]

well were officially proper ****ed.

im sorry i do not believe that the money i work my ass off for shouldnt be given to some homeless **** who is too lazy to get a damn job.
im sorry i do not believe that we should cut our military by 25%, how many days do you think we will have till a terrorist attack?
im sorry i do not believe in someone who makes promises that they cannot fullfill and even admits that they can't.
im sorry i do not believe in barack obama.

so hello socialism.

Wow, after 8 years after the worst president in US history, you're saying this?

Terrorist attack has nothing to do with our military. Zero, zilch. We have so much military and so much spending on it and we can't even find a guy in a cave.

EVERY politician makes promises they can't keep and they DON'T say anything about it. This guy is more honest than a lot of past politicians.

IDK how you could ever think a capitalist nation like the US could ever remotely become socialist.

First time I've been proud to be an American in awhile. FINALLY some intelligence in the Presidency. Finally I don't have to cringe when I hear the leader of my country speak.

worst president in history?
i do not agree, i rememeber when we were attacked on 9/11 and everyone was for going to war but once we were in they wanted us out? it was a lose lose situation. what is wrong with helping a country get back on their feet? America needed help to get this country started why shouldn't iraq? say you here about the guy across the street is beating his wife and then come over and beats your wife/mom/family memeber? what would you do sit back and watch or go over to his house take his ass out and help his wife out in recovering? pretty selfish if you ask me. if your saying that he is the worst president in US history then i guess your saying he has done everything wrong possible? then i guess he is horribly wrong for helping out another country and trying to get rid of freedom? good job.

and yes believe it or not it does, without military we are vulnerable, we get attacked we cant attack back with a small military can we? i think not. lets say some kid get bullied daily by neighborhood kids, and one day he decides to carry a baseball bat for protection, do you think they will still **** with him? they might but there is a hell of alot less chance of them bullying him then when he didnt have something to protect him.

yes candidates do but Obama has made by far some of the worst promises to this country.
do you like getting taxes ripped from your check? i know i dont but it is needed to happen for the countries good. but what i do not like is how he is wanting to take out more money because some homeless guy who is too lazy to get off his ass and get a job of his own deserves my hard earned money more than i do. if they have a medical problem then yes that is fine with me they cannot do anything about that, but for those who are too lazy, gone to drugs, or decided to drop out and do nothing with their lives do not deserve my money.

i only cringed when clinton was president. never have when Bush would speak. now i have to cringe once again everytime i hear obama speak.

deal with it or get out? tell michael moore that. he complains about the United states more than anyone in this country.

[95st-celica]

ok....so obama can talk a big game...and seem like hes going to change the world....well lets see if he really does make a difference...i think that he is an excelent speaker but that doesnt make a good president...i want to see something happen now that he is in office...and eastern...you cant point this at white people and put pictures up like that...like dude...we know wht they went through...dont make it seem like your sayin fcuk whites im glad obama won just for that fact....i dont think thats what your trying to convey but people are gonna take it like that

[Supersprynt]

The lack of pride in the country doesn't spit on the graves of anybody. Nobody could ever show the appreciate that those who died for this country deserve. But I will NOT feel guilty for my feelings. This country is hated by much of the world? And why? Well we are bullies. We push other countries around, and get what we want or we use force. There is no way around that, and I don't like it. This country was founded on a fear of authority, specifically a king, and now we have the Patriot Act, unauthorized search and seizure? At what cost does our safety come at?

I resent the fact that I have to be proud of my country all the time. Or I'm called "unpatriotic" because I don't support the President on a particular issue. BS. Being an American is defined by being defiant. Is defined by supporting civil and state liberties. When my civil liberties are being stepped on I don't care what you call me but unpatriotic should never be it. This country was formed from Revolution and I think a revolution is exactly what we need to remind the people of this country what it means to be a true American.

[zero07]

Im worried.

[6gen94gt]

easternpiro1:


i have no problem that he is black honestly i dont, not in anyway am i racist. yes times back then were rough. i agree that they were wanting to get their voices herd and they deserve to. i give a good amount of respect to someone who supports someone because they agree with what they are for. i do not have any respect for anyone who just voted for obama because he is the same skin color as them. i do not think skin color should have anything to do with why you would vote for someone. only thing that should matter is what they stand for and what is sad is that there are so so many people that voted for obama because of skin color and have no idea what he supports. i was listening to a radio station call 101.1 the wiz (which is a heavily obama supported station) and what i like about the station on politics is that when they would interview someone and they said they just like them because they are black they would freak out and say hey how about you dont go by skin color and go read up on both candidates and decide by that. i just wish that the people who voted by skin color would actually read up on the candidates.

[95st-celica]

Being an American is defined by being defiant. Is defined by supporting civil and state liberties. When my civil liberties are being stepped on I don't care what you call me but unpatriotic should never be it. This country was formed from Revolution and I think a revolution is exactly what we need to remind the people of this country what it means to be a true American.

x2

[easternpiro1]

well were officially proper ****ed.

im sorry i do not believe that the money i work my ass off for shouldnt be given to some homeless **** who is too lazy to get a damn job.
im sorry i do not believe that we should cut our military by 25%, how many days do you think we will have till a terrorist attack?
im sorry i do not believe in someone who makes promises that they cannot fullfill and even admits that they can't.
im sorry i do not believe in barack obama.

so hello socialism.

Wow, after 8 years after the worst president in US history, you're saying this?

Terrorist attack has nothing to do with our military. Zero, zilch. We have so much military and so much spending on it and we can't even find a guy in a cave.

EVERY politician makes promises they can't keep and they DON'T say anything about it. This guy is more honest than a lot of past politicians.

IDK how you could ever think a capitalist nation like the US could ever remotely become socialist.

First time I've been proud to be an American in awhile. FINALLY some intelligence in the Presidency. Finally I don't have to cringe when I hear the leader of my country speak.

worst president in history?
i do not agree, i rememeber when we were attacked on 9/11 and everyone was for going to war but once we were in they wanted us out? it was a lose lose situation. what is wrong with helping a country get back on their feet? America needed help to get this country started why shouldn't iraq? say you here about the guy across the street is beating his wife and then come over and beats your wife/mom/family memeber? what would you do sit back and watch or go over to his house take his ass out and help his wife out in recovering? pretty selfish if you ask me. if your saying that he is the worst president in US history then i guess your saying he has done everything wrong possible? then i guess he is horribly wrong for helping out another country and trying to get rid of freedom? good job.

and yes believe it or not it does, without military we are vulnerable, we get attacked we cant attack back with a small military can we? i think not. lets say some kid get bullied daily by neighborhood kids, and one day he decides to carry a baseball bat for protection, do you think they will still **** with him? they might but there is a hell of alot less chance of them bullying him then when he didnt have something to protect him.

yes candidates do but Obama has made by far some of the worst promises to this country.
do you like getting taxes ripped from your check? i know i dont but it is needed to happen for the countries good. but what i do not like is how he is wanting to take out more money because some homeless guy who is too lazy to get off his ass and get a job of his own deserves my hard earned money more than i do. if they have a medical problem then yes that is fine with me they cannot do anything about that, but for those who are too lazy, gone to drugs, or decided to drop out and do nothing with their lives do not deserve my money.

i only cringed when clinton was president. never have when Bush would speak. now i have to cringe once again everytime i hear obama speak.

deal with it or get out? tell michael moore that. he complains about the United states more than anyone in this country.

ok....so obama can talk a big game...and seem like hes going to change the world....well lets see if he really does make a difference...i think that he is an excelent speaker but that doesnt make a good president...i want to see something happen now that he is in office...and eastern...you cant point this at white people and put pictures up like that...like dude...we know wht they went through...dont make it seem like your sayin fcuk whites im glad obama won just for that fact....i dont think thats what your trying to convey but people are gonna take it like that

95st, im not trying to say fcuk whites at all NO WAY WOULD I SAY THAT. BUT i am saying that there is a reason that this election in partiuclar is so special, and that i was agreeing with the fellow that said it was bigger than just a president or senate. im not pointing at anyone, i dont care if it was orange people harrasing purple people, this country has come A LONG WAY and still has a lot of work to do. i talked to a friend of mine who did not understand why it was such a big deal. and i was just... reminding everyone.

as far as michael moore...he can complain away! he's a bit extreme sometimes but what the hell did iraq have to do with the war in afghanistan? even COLIN POWELL said that one had NOTHING to do with the other (along with other people in the GOP). and btw.... i have PLENTY of friends and family in the military... i was assigned to kadena afb in japan, (i couldnt go for extrenuating circumstances) and i still keep in contact with alot of my friends from my college ROTC. GUESS WHAT... they are COMPLAINING the same way that americans are. I GUARANTEE IT. they dont want to be out there, and i have heard SEVERAL say why they are voting for a particualr candidate.

[Supersprynt]

worst president in history?
i do not agree, i rememeber when we were attacked on 9/11 and everyone was for going to war but once we were in they wanted us out? it was a lose lose situation. what is wrong with helping a country get back on their feet? America needed help to get this country started why shouldn't iraq? say you here about the guy across the street is beating his wife and then come over and beats your wife/mom/family memeber? what would you do sit back and watch or go over to his house take his ass out and help his wife out in recovering? pretty selfish if you ask me. if your saying that he is the worst president in US history then i guess your saying he has done everything wrong possible? then i guess he is horribly wrong for helping out another country and trying to get rid of freedom? good job.

and yes believe it or not it does, without military we are vulnerable, we get attacked we cant attack back with a small military can we? i think not. lets say some kid get bullied daily by neighborhood kids, and one day he decides to carry a baseball bat for protection, do you think they will still **** with him? they might but there is a hell of alot less chance of them bullying him then when he didnt have something to protect him.

yes candidates do but Obama has made by far some of the worst promises to this country.
do you like getting taxes ripped from your check? i know i dont but it is needed to happen for the countries good. but what i do not like is how he is wanting to take out more money because some homeless guy who is too lazy to get off his ass and get a job of his own deserves my hard earned money more than i do. if they have a medical problem then yes that is fine with me they cannot do anything about that, but for those who are too lazy, gone to drugs, or decided to drop out and do nothing with their lives do not deserve my money.

i only cringed when clinton was president. never have when Bush would speak. now i have to cringe once again everytime i hear obama speak.

deal with it or get out? tell michael moore that. he complains about the United states more than anyone in this country.

I didn't say anything about going to war in Afghanistan. A retaliation was needed for moral in this country, even if Osama denied doing the attack. It was when the administration decided that Iraq was part of that plan is when things got screwed up.

If I remember we revolted. It's called the American Revolution. Iraq wasn't revolting. We went in there and decided their government was done. It's not a comparison it's the total opposite. If you were to use that comparison to an abusive husband; it's like we went over there to disarm the guy when he never had a gun and in the process destroy the house, throw the wife down the stairs and kill some innocent relatives. Sure, they really needed our help. It wasn't about helping out a country, it was about protecting US interests in oil and business.

You've effectively put all homeless people in a category as lazy and drug users. Have a heart, guy. Some are just down on their luck and need a helping hand. Some are turning to drugs because that's the only thing that takes the pain away. Be charitable during the year not just when Joe Sixpack is dressed up as Santa in front of the mall.

The economic boom of the 90s was horrible right? The budget surplus. Worst thing he did was screw a beast and lie about it. Did you watch Obama's speech tonight? That made you cringe? The guy actually knows how to speak. He doesn't stu stu stutter or mispronunciative words. How anybody didn't shed a tear when Bush spoke is beyond me. Some of it was worse than the grammar I see on here.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Nov 5, 2008 - 12:49 AM

[easternpiro1]

you are the man supersprynt.... you are taking the words out of my mouth.... beating me to the punch....

and 6gen, i TOTALLY AGREE with the fact that whoever is voting JUST BECAUSE of the color of skin needs to be slapped and educated. BUT i just feel that while BOTH MCCAIN AND OBAMA are all talk... Obama is talking a better game... and if i got suckered...hey then im in the same boat as the people that voted for bush... not once... but twice.
but its kind of hard not to vote for someone that looks like you ESPECIALLY when alot of people (including blacks) assume things about you for the same reason....SKIN COLOR.

"the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he does not exist".... it may not make sense... but it did after i thought about it for A LONG time. and no its not relating to skin color.

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Nov 5, 2008 - 12:52 AM

[Culpable04]

The lack of pride in the country doesn't spit on the graves of anybody. Nobody could ever show the appreciate that those who died for this country deserve. But I will NOT feel guilty for my feelings. This country is hated by much of the world? And why? Well we are bullies. We push other countries around, and get what we want or we use force. There is no way around that, and I don't like it. This country was founded on a fear of authority, specifically a king, and now we have the Patriot Act, unauthorized search and seizure? At what cost does our safety come at?

I resent the fact that I have to be proud of my country all the time. Or I'm called "unpatriotic" because I don't support the President on a particular issue. BS. Being an American is defined by being defiant. Is defined by supporting civil and state liberties. When my civil liberties are being stepped on I don't care what you call me but unpatriotic should never be it. This country was formed from Revolution and I think a revolution is exactly what we need to remind the people of this country what it means to be a true American.

supersprynt nailed it
the so called freedom in united states comes at a high price, every country needs help at some point in their history, but internal issues of a country should be left for them to fix them. for those who don't agree with this, imagine me going to your house and kicking your wife and your @$$ until you both decide to agree on something. would you consider that helpful ? yet I have problems in my own house that I'm not taking care of because I'm busy with you two.

it honestly didn't make any difference to me as of who won, but I think is a shame that is a big news and this will go down in history as the FIRST black president. a lot of 3rd world countries don't even keep track of this, you read their history and you can't tell which president was black or white. it was just a president.

[easternpiro1]

or ask yourself this.... when we went to iraq to "LIBERATE" the Iraq people from sadaam's tyranny (though he was an asswhole) WHERE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST PLACES THE TROOPS WERE SENT? OIL FIELDS... most people were like WTF?!?!? then the GOP made some bogus exuse about them having to protect the oil so that it could monetarily sustain the iraqis once the infastructure was built or some BS like that. i hate having my intelligence insulted... as most americans do. the biggest mistake the current administration made was assuming that they could continue to lie and bullshyt us....

[6gen94gt]

I didn't say anything about going to war in Afghanistan. It was when the administration decided that Iraq was part of that plan is when things got screwed up.

If I remember we revolted. It's called the American Revolution. Iraq wasn't revolting. We went in there and decided their government was done. It's not a comparison it's the total opposite. If you were to use that comparison to an abusive husband; it's like we went over there to disarm the guy when he never had a gun and in the process destroy the house, throw the wife down the stairs and kill some innocent relatives. Sure, they really needed our help. It wasn't about helping out a country, it was about protecting US interests in oil and business.

You've effectively put all homeless people in a category as lazy and drug users. Have a heart, guy. Some are just down on their luck and need a helping hand. Some are turning to drugs because that's the only thing that takes the pain away. Be charitable during the year not just when Joe Sixpack is dressed up as Santa in front of the mall.

The economic boom of the 90s was horrible right? The budget surplus. Worst thing he did was screw a beast and lie about it.

we needed to go to iraq. iraq is a huge supporter in terrorism. in order to take care of the terrorists we need to take care of the main support so they have nothing to rely on. we are trying to establish a government that will help the country not destroy it. would you rather live in a country where say Bush walked around with a 12guage and you said something bad about him he would blow your head off? or would you rather live in a country where you can say **** busch and not have the fear of him coming to your door and blowing your head off? i on the other hand wouldnt mind keeping my head. we need to protect oil since the environmentalist will not let us drill in the United States because it looks ugly? seriously would you rather pay the 2 dollars a gallon or the 4.50-5.00 a gallon because we have to have it imported? sadly we have to protect it so we can have it imported. maybe if we were allowed to drill on our own country the economy would rise, and gas prices would fall, and we wouldnt have to protect oil in other countries.

if you read my post i said there is a good amount that are lazy and drug users, but also there are some that have medical problems to where they cannot get a job. those are the ones who deserve money not the lazy and drug user ones. i completely understand on giving some of my money to someone who just cannot do anything about their problems. i just do not agree with giving my money to someone who refuses to get a job and earn money themselves.

[xs94st]

it has begun.


congratulations president elect obama.


R.I.P. this thread.

[Supersprynt]

So I'm guessing you don't remember when they came out and said they found no connection to the Taliban or Al Q'aeda to Iraq? I'm thinking no.

You need to get your facts straight, maybe it'll help you realize some of the things your saying are inaccurate. The drilling you say will fix the economy and bring prices down won't. Not at all. The oil prices don't control the economy like you think. Offshore drilling in Alaska will not bring prices down there simply isn't enough oil there to do that. Most of our oil comes from up north - Canada, then Venezuela (I think). I do not want to destroy beautiful countryside that will never go back to the way it was for a temporary fix if it were a fix at all.

I think this thread is fine as long as it doesn't get personal. It's very tough to argue politics (or anything else for that matter) maturely but so far I'm impressed. Debate is fine - personal attacks aren't. Keep it clean and we can continue.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Nov 5, 2008 - 1:08 AM

[easternpiro1]

I didn't say anything about going to war in Afghanistan. It was when the administration decided that Iraq was part of that plan is when things got screwed up.

If I remember we revolted. It's called the American Revolution. Iraq wasn't revolting. We went in there and decided their government was done. It's not a comparison it's the total opposite. If you were to use that comparison to an abusive husband; it's like we went over there to disarm the guy when he never had a gun and in the process destroy the house, throw the wife down the stairs and kill some innocent relatives. Sure, they really needed our help. It wasn't about helping out a country, it was about protecting US interests in oil and business.

You've effectively put all homeless people in a category as lazy and drug users. Have a heart, guy. Some are just down on their luck and need a helping hand. Some are turning to drugs because that's the only thing that takes the pain away. Be charitable during the year not just when Joe Sixpack is dressed up as Santa in front of the mall.

The economic boom of the 90s was horrible right? The budget surplus. Worst thing he did was screw a beast and lie about it.

we needed to go to iraq. iraq is a huge supporter in terrorism. in order to take care of the terrorists we need to take care of the main support so they have nothing to rely on. we are trying to establish a government that will help the country not destroy it. would you rather live in a country where say Bush walked around with a 12guage and you said something bad about him he would blow your head off? or would you rather live in a country where you can say **** busch and not have the fear of him coming to your door and blowing your head off? i on the other hand wouldnt mind keeping my head. we need to protect oil since the environmentalist will not let us drill in the United States because it looks ugly? seriously would you rather pay the 2 dollars a gallon or the 4.50-5.00 a gallon because we have to have it imported? sadly we have to protect it so we can have it imported. maybe if we were allowed to drill on our own country the economy would rise, and gas prices would fall, and we wouldnt have to protect oil in other countries.

if you read my post i said there is a good amount that are lazy and drug users, but also there are some that have medical problems to where they cannot get a job. those are the ones who deserve money not the lazy and drug user ones. i completely understand on giving some of my money to someone who just cannot do anything about their problems. i just do not agree with giving my money to someone who refuses to get a job and earn money themselves.

is that before or after we instigated a fight? and honestly i would rather invest the 10 BEEELION DOLARRSSS PER MONTH in AMERICAN AUTOMOTIVE INGENUITY rather than AMERICAN ASS KICKING. we would have had MUCH better results.

youve been listening to bush too much my friend... its already been established that 1. hes a numbnuts. 2. He's a Lying Numbnuts.

btw... look up south american oil dependency.... they learned their lesson after the middle east had us by the snarglies back in the 1970's.... they invested money in THEIR OWN COUNTRY and now have vehicles based off of sugar ethanol. NO FOREIGN OIL NEEDED.

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Nov 5, 2008 - 1:11 AM

[6gen94gt]

you are the man supersprynt.... you are taking the words out of my mouth.... beating me to the punch....

and 6gen, i TOTALLY AGREE with the fact that whoever is voting JUST BECAUSE of the color of skin needs to be slapped and educated. BUT i just feel that while BOTH MCCAIN AND OBAMA are all talk... Obama is talking a better game... and if i got suckered...hey then im in the same boat as the people that voted for bush... not once... but twice.
but its kind of hard not to vote for someone that looks like you ESPECIALLY when alot of people (including blacks) assume things about you for the same reason....SKIN COLOR.

"the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he does not exist".... it may not make sense... but it did after i thought about it for A LONG time. and no its not relating to skin color.

i agree that obama is very good at speaking, not going to lie he is extremely great at public speaking. Mccain on the other hand is not the best public speaker. agreed. thats what is sad is that people do assume stupid **** like that over skin color. racism honestly disgusts me. i dont really understand what your saying about it being hard not to vote for someone because of what they look like?

for your quote: i deff understand what this quote's meaning is through a religious view although i am athiest hah but i can also see how this can be used as other views and not so much religious

[96bluevert]

is that before or after we instigated a fight? and honestly i would rather invest the 10 BEEELION DOLARRSSS PER MONTH in AMERICAN AUTOMOTIVE INGENUITY rather than AMERICAN ASS KICKING. we would have had MUCH better results.

I'd rather the money go into trying to get this country back on it's feet. I love cars too ..but what good are cars if the economy is still crap?

anyway, it might be interesting to see what the next 4 years will bring. Hopefully Obama isn't all talk.

[6gen94gt]

So I'm guessing you don't remember when they came out and said they found no connection to the Taliban or Al Q'aeda to Iraq? I'm thinking no.

You need to get your facts straight, maybe it'll help you realize some of the things your saying are inaccurate. The drilling you say will fix the economy and bring prices down won't. Not at all. The oil prices don't control the economy like you think. Offshore drilling in Alaska will not bring prices down there simply isn't enough oil there to do that. Most of our oil comes from up north - Canada, then Venezuela (I think). I do not want to destroy beautiful countryside that will never go back to the way it was for a temporary fix if it were a fix at all.

I think this thread is fine as long as it doesn't get personal. It's very tough to argue politics (or anything else for that matter) maturely but so far I'm impressed. Debate is fine - personal attacks aren't. Keep it clean and we can continue.

sadam remember him? he was a terrorist leader, he supported many terrorists. he was murdering his own people simply because they went against him. i believe that is more than a good enough reason to help them out.

i know that there is enough oil there to last us a decent amount of time so we can find an alternate to fuel. if we drill offshore in alaska the government can tax it therefore helping the economy out better then getting it from another country who is taxing the **** out of it.

also idk if i have become personel on this thread and i am not meaning too. if i have i apologize for any personel attacks.

[easternpiro1]

you are the man supersprynt.... you are taking the words out of my mouth.... beating me to the punch....

and 6gen, i TOTALLY AGREE with the fact that whoever is voting JUST BECAUSE of the color of skin needs to be slapped and educated. BUT i just feel that while BOTH MCCAIN AND OBAMA are all talk... Obama is talking a better game... and if i got suckered...hey then im in the same boat as the people that voted for bush... not once... but twice.
but its kind of hard not to vote for someone that looks like you ESPECIALLY when alot of people (including blacks) assume things about you for the same reason....SKIN COLOR.

"the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he does not exist".... it may not make sense... but it did after i thought about it for A LONG time. and no its not relating to skin color.

i agree that obama is very good at speaking, not going to lie he is extremely great at public speaking. Mccain on the other hand is not the best public speaker. agreed. thats what is sad is that people do assume stupid **** like that over skin color. racism honestly disgusts me. i dont really understand what your saying about it being hard not to vote for someone because of what they look like?

for your quote: i deff understand what this quote's meaning is through a religious view although i am athiest hah but i can also see how this can be used as other views and not so much religious

sorry i didnt make it clear (im vauge sometimes) what i meant is like for instance when you were very young you were inevitably in a situation where you had a ken doll and a barbie doll... which did you most likely choose? the one that looks like a boy? or a girl? thats a rudimentary example of gender identity. the same thing applies to race, age, sexual orientation, religious preference etc. its human nature, but the GOOD NEWS is that this country for the most part has shwon that they have the sophistication to choose a guy thats right for the job.

and as far as that is concerned to all the "NOBAMA" people.... think about this.... if you can admit that the man ran the campaign LIKE A WELL OILED AND TUNED 3SGTE. what do you think he will do for the country? just think about it for a second... he ran his campaign VERY WELL, CONSISTENT, AND ORGANIZED.

OH! and blue vert, i didnt mean JUST automotive, i was just using it as an example among many. but he BETTER back up that mouth or belive me... black folk will turn on him like they did on OJ!

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Nov 5, 2008 - 1:21 AM

[stephen_lee]

I didn't say anything about going to war in Afghanistan. It was when the administration decided that Iraq was part of that plan is when things got screwed up.

If I remember we revolted. It's called the American Revolution. Iraq wasn't revolting. We went in there and decided their government was done. It's not a comparison it's the total opposite. If you were to use that comparison to an abusive husband; it's like we went over there to disarm the guy when he never had a gun and in the process destroy the house, throw the wife down the stairs and kill some innocent relatives. Sure, they really needed our help. It wasn't about helping out a country, it was about protecting US interests in oil and business.

You've effectively put all homeless people in a category as lazy and drug users. Have a heart, guy. Some are just down on their luck and need a helping hand. Some are turning to drugs because that's the only thing that takes the pain away. Be charitable during the year not just when Joe Sixpack is dressed up as Santa in front of the mall.

The economic boom of the 90s was horrible right? The budget surplus. Worst thing he did was screw a beast and lie about it.

we needed to go to iraq. iraq is a huge supporter in terrorism. in order to take care of the terrorists we need to take care of the main support so they have nothing to rely on. we are trying to establish a government that will help the country not destroy it. would you rather live in a country where say Bush walked around with a 12guage and you said something bad about him he would blow your head off? or would you rather live in a country where you can say **** busch and not have the fear of him coming to your door and blowing your head off? i on the other hand wouldnt mind keeping my head. we need to protect oil since the environmentalist will not let us drill in the United States because it looks ugly? seriously would you rather pay the 2 dollars a gallon or the 4.50-5.00 a gallon because we have to have it imported? sadly we have to protect it so we can have it imported. maybe if we were allowed to drill on our own country the economy would rise, and gas prices would fall, and we wouldnt have to protect oil in other countries.

if you read my post i said there is a good amount that are lazy and drug users, but also there are some that have medical problems to where they cannot get a job. those are the ones who deserve money not the lazy and drug user ones. i completely understand on giving some of my money to someone who just cannot do anything about their problems. i just do not agree with giving my money to someone who refuses to get a job and earn money themselves.

I think Iraq was just a big lie to us by the govt. Its oil concern. Bush has hands in how many major oil companies?? I do pay $1.99 a gallon for gas ATM thanks to god knows what. But I do know I live near more oil rigs than I've seen 6GCs. They DO allow drilling for oil, at least here in TEXAS. And we also have our own refineries. So Texas can drill, refine and sell its own oil. But we still had ~$4.00/gal at times, so its not about homeland oil drilling. I know someone is pocketing more money than ever imaginable from oil. Its inflation.