3sgte vs v6 swap, pros and cons |
3sgte vs v6 swap, pros and cons |
Mar 13, 2008 - 12:15 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 25, '05 From nyc Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Hey guys, been a long time since I been back. But I’m looking into the next celi so it’s about that time to get my plans together. I’ve done the 5sfte and loved it, but after losing it, I don’t think it’s a road I want to walk down again. I want some more power…300hp +. So that brings me to one of two options. Nicely worked out 3sgte or mildly boosted v6 or nicely worked out vs. with cams and so on….
What are the advantages and of these three possibilities? I remember a member and his dad was setting up a v6, not sure how it turned out (I’m going to hunt down that thread after I write this) but it was looking very promising. I won’t be doing the work myself, and my mechanic is very good and is willing to make it happen. So I’m really leaning towards the v6 right now. But will it be that much better than the 3sgte? Is it worth it? The car will not be a daily driver so that’s not a problem for me. Hope to hear from you guys on this…. |
Mar 13, 2008 - 7:06 PM |
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
the v6 will prolly end up costing quite a bit more, consitering the custom work involved, and the fact that you wouldnt be doing the work yourself.
that said, with the right amount of money, a turbo 6 would be SICK in a celica...i see lots of money spent on tires with that kind of off the line TQ, and boost. lol -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Mar 13, 2008 - 7:18 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
v6 + turbo = very expensive to do, and lots of custom work.
3sgte swap = well documented, cheaper, and unlimited potential. Having said that, I would love to see a turbo v6 swap done.... but I personally wouldn't want the headache of dealing with it. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Mar 13, 2008 - 7:22 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '06 From New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 105 (100%) |
I don't know your mechanic abilities, but a V6 swap is not to be taken for granted, it involves a lot more work than a 3sgte, it's more custom work, mechanically and electronically. the V6 is not a road explored by many yet, and there are different V6 options that work slightly different, so even if another member wants to help you, he might not know the fine details of the particular engine you're using. 3SGTE easier for the abundance of info, so with that said I think you should go 3sgte since if your mechanic run into a question he can just read some post here and get his answer.
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Mar 14, 2008 - 12:08 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
i would go V6 + turbo. you'll easily get some nice numbers put down after working out the custom stuff...
plus i'll then have something to reference to when i scrape up the money to get mine in -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
Mar 14, 2008 - 6:15 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 25, '05 From nyc Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
3 of the most valued memebers all pointing the same direction is good enough for me. 3s it is! The v6 sounds reeeeeally tempting though....i always thought they came with lsd...and vvti already. plus a nice lil 5psi and 2 grand in tires lol...that would be an animal.
But im sold. 3sgte it is for me. i think with the weight of the celi....a moddest 350hp would be the sweet spot. i have a pretty good idea of what i need to get there. so look out soon guys....some PMs may be coming your way soon. i still owe you a trip and some beers manny! i'll be up there soon! |
Mar 14, 2008 - 3:13 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '08 From Indiana Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
If our celicas were RWD then i would recomend V6, but FWD definitly 3s.
Just not enough room. |
Mar 14, 2008 - 10:05 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 2, '05 From Guam Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
QUOTE(lagos @ Mar 13, 2008 - 7:18 PM) [snapback]653485[/snapback] v6 + turbo = very expensive to do, and lots of custom work. 3sgte swap = well documented, cheaper, and unlimited potential. Having said that, I would love to see a turbo v6 swap done.... but I personally wouldn't want the headache of dealing with it. Couldn't have said it better. -------------------- 94 Celica GT
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Jun 11, 2008 - 8:10 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 25, '05 From nyc Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
okay....i've decided to go with the 3sgte. quick question. where can i find performance cams, pistons, rods and so forth?
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Jun 11, 2008 - 8:46 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 12, '05 From Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) |
First, be aware that many people will side with the 3s - its only natural here. I love my V6 because its got torque/power with NA reliability. Also its a camry V6 - what could be easier to have worked on? I wouldn't do a turbo setup, maybe a TRD S/C though...
If our celicas were RWD then i would recomend V6, but FWD definitly 3s. Reasons please? Just not enough room. You are wrong about the V6 not fitting. But, if you meant to say V6 +turbo you could be right. Just think before you post so you really say what you mean. -------------------- Past: V6 Swapped 6G Celica, E46 BMW M3, Jeep Wrangler TJ
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Jun 11, 2008 - 8:52 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 2, '08 From Scotland Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
Mine heading for V6 transplant on the 20th
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Jun 11, 2008 - 8:52 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Webster Ma. Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
3sgte = 93 octane
v6 = 89 octane figured i throw that in. -------------------- |
Jun 11, 2008 - 9:07 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 19, '07 From tx Currently Offline Reputation: 22 (100%) |
3sgte = 93 octane v6 = 89 octane figured i throw that in. Damn - very true [and relevant these days]. The V6 if driven like the Camry was meant to should get slightly better mileage than the Camry the motor came from due to the weight. No 3S I know can boast that good of MPG. Add boost to that and you can kiss that goodbye tho [can you imagine the MPG then? *shudders*] This post has been edited by DEATH: Jun 11, 2008 - 9:08 AM -------------------- ENGINE: '93 RC 3S-GTE/WRC CT-20b [18-20PSI] PERF: TRD/HKS/ARP/NGK/MSD/ACT/Blitz/STRI/APEX'i/TwosRus/GReddy/Magnaflo/KOYO SUSP: Tein/Bilstein/SusTech/ INT: SS-III SEATS/Toyota Hyper Sports EXT: WRC/TRD/404 Its a safety feature so that people like you don't end up killing themselves or everyone around them. Slow down Paul Walker. 6GC Chat - Go there: [url="http://www.griffgirl.com/forum/chat/index.php[/url] |
Jun 11, 2008 - 11:10 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '07 From Montreal, QC, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
if you TRULLY want a v6... you should just go with a supra
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Jun 11, 2008 - 11:29 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 4, '07 From Beaumont Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
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Jun 11, 2008 - 11:47 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 19, '07 From tx Currently Offline Reputation: 22 (100%) |
if you TRULLY want a v6... you should just go with a supra Sorry sorry - I know we're not suppose to make pointless posts but I really was rollin on this one -------------------- ENGINE: '93 RC 3S-GTE/WRC CT-20b [18-20PSI] PERF: TRD/HKS/ARP/NGK/MSD/ACT/Blitz/STRI/APEX'i/TwosRus/GReddy/Magnaflo/KOYO SUSP: Tein/Bilstein/SusTech/ INT: SS-III SEATS/Toyota Hyper Sports EXT: WRC/TRD/404 Its a safety feature so that people like you don't end up killing themselves or everyone around them. Slow down Paul Walker. 6GC Chat - Go there: [url="http://www.griffgirl.com/forum/chat/index.php[/url] |
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