 Rice Burner haters, why????!!!! |
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 Sep 9, 2003 - 11:42 AM
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Enthusiast  Joined Jul 11, '03 From Kennesaw, Ga Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
My dad is all into the American Muscle Cars, he's always bought American cars for himself, but he actually likes my Celica.
He's got his 70 Chevelle that is just a beast, and he told me when I was looking for a car that he didn't think I should go with a car like the Celica. I agreed with him at first. However, we stumbled upon one while we were looking and figured we take it for a test drive just to see. Needless to say his opinion and mine changed after that and I ended up buying the car. I'd be more than happy with either one, but having one of each would be great  .The celica is the first car I've boughten on my own, so it will always be more appealing overall
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Sep 9, 2003 - 8:44 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 25, '03 From Santa Barbara, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i also believe it is the way they were brought up to liking "american muscle." 2 of my good friends own mustangs and love them because both of them had parents who owned classic mustangs, corvettes, etc. both of them think their cars are just superior compared to cars like ours.
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Sep 10, 2003 - 9:32 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 3, '03 From South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I get alot of respect from domestics. The only time I had a hater was when the guy got all pissed because I was talking about how his SHO was way to heavy to contend with my car. He got all pissed and said if I didn't watch my mouth my car would be my coffin. Well, he thought I was the strong silent type, I'm not
. So, it ended in vilence, the good thing though is that atleast I didn't hurt him too bad but I broke a knuckle in my right hand and it hurt like hell the day after. I still see him at the track but he avoids me. I don't know why, I'm a nice guy most of the time. Oh well.....J |
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Sep 10, 2003 - 10:37 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 10, '03 From FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Lol, dude i would never get in a confrontation with u, your friggin huge. Lol way to put him in his place tho. |
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Sep 11, 2003 - 9:32 AM
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I agree with Jussimple's tactic
most haters out there are just talkers. they cant and wont try to back it up. just talk some i'll knock you out bitch and they will stop. |
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Sep 11, 2003 - 7:14 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 11, '03 From New York Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well perhaps you are missing out on the fact that they have tons of torque between 0-5k? And that performance usually starts with RWD? And that, to this day, Displacement dominates over Vtec (vtec will never pwn anything). You do know Vtec is for economy engines (Mostly) in that the engine timing is finally brought up to "normal" and UN-Economical speeds when Vtec hits...IE every other normal car runs "vtec" all the time (I read a long faq on that). I am here cause I love 6th Gen celica's as a practical DD, but please don't make out any of these FWD 4 cyllander cars into something their not. By the time you swap out all the "economy" parts (suspension, port and reinforcement, add forced induction, etc etc) you finally have DECENT speed but are still FWD (And there is no defense for FWD, it simply SUCKS when it comes to performance). Alas, the GT4 is cool, AWD + Turbo helps a lot in the 4cylli equation. I think most 4-cylander owners assume their cars are fast when the "speed" you are feeling is generally because the car is light and weak. Given, I've driven a 4-500hp 7.8 litre V8 Trans Am, My own Mr2 Turbo (MR fun, with 250 hp to boot!), and gotten rides in an Rx7.....I've come to appreciate REAL sports cars and the true soul,finesse, and spirit that is alltogether inspirational. Again, don't get me wrong, you can build up a cheap 4 cyllander honda/toyota...but it's still FWD...and still looks the way it does...and is nowhere near (in my book) as fun/cool/inspirational as a purebred sports car like the FD that will be in my garage this spring
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Sep 11, 2003 - 11:11 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 25, '03 From Santa Barbara, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well u have to remember our cars are reliable, look good, and can get some good power (not great, but good).
and with a good engine swap, anything is possible. so there is no reason for anyone to dis our cars...or any cars. |
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Sep 12, 2003 - 11:23 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 11, '03 From New York Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Reliable? So is a sports car if you know what you're doing (And the Supra, no matter what you do it is). Look Good? well that's opinionated. But even if you tried to make that factual, Economy cars were designed with everyday driver in mind, nothing outstanding, radical, or much different at all. When it comes to sports cars, it's the complete opposite. "Lets make it unique, beautiful, give it some heritage". I don't know, to me, and IN MY OPINION, it's apples to oranges. A civic will never send chills down my spine like an Rx7 or z06. Good power? Power requires turbo or displacement, which all Eco4cyllanders lack. What helps when you have little power is to be very LIGHT, which they are, which makes them feel fast, but they aren't fast. With a good engine swap....yes, anything is. But its not how the car came, and in the end that rebuild + cost of surrounding mods/exterior + car could mean a real sports car that came with that power from the factory, and is RWD, beautiful, and tons more fun. So no, I am not dissing eco cars, but I just recognize the place they are meant to be in: Practical everyday cars. "You can't polish a turd" 
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Sep 12, 2003 - 8:17 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '02 From Sioux Falls, SD, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
We are on a Celica site, not a Civic site.
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Sep 13, 2003 - 1:10 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 4, '03 From Twin Cities MN Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Yeah, I dunno what the point of people going on and on about what car is better get out of it. Its whatever you are happy with, not what makes other people happy. That said, I WILL NEVER EVER buy an american car again in my life after my first car, a 2001 Ford Focus ZX3. That car, hands down, has to win the biggest piece of sh*t award ever. In the 45,000 mi that i had it ( I bought it new ) the emmisions system failed 3 times, the battery exploded, and the transmission failed at 30,000 (auto)! Thats not counting all the "minor" problems like loose mirrors, loose trim, and the CD player never working for more than 30 min. I was at the dealer with somthing under warranty at least every other week. Needless to say I got sick of it and bought a car I have always found to be very very beautiful, my Celica coupe. As much as there are people who swear by domestic cars who talk trash about how our imports are slow and worthless, there will never EVER come the day that you will hear of this guy's chevy or that guy's ford running 100,000 mi without somthing going wrong. I mean come on- most of us on this site have celicas approaching 100,000 or better, all without ANY mechanical problems. Now you go and tell me when is the last time you saw any american car commonly go 100,000 mi with no problems? You dont. It makes me think of my grandpa when his buick died and he got a toyota camry for a loaner. he said that his 1936 pontiac he had way back in the day was a nicer car! OOOOOKKKK! Its attitudes like that I cant stand. So for all the trast talk us import lovers may have to recieve from the ignorant- just smile in your head at the fact that you know you'll never need a tow truck, unlike the unlucky man with the mustang who just blew a head gasket trying to show you what was up...
-------------------- Car #3: 98 Accord LX- purchased 5/06, totaled 8/06
Car #2: 95 Celica GT- purchased 8/03, current daily driver Car #1: 01 Focus ZX3- purchased 5/01, sold 8/03 |
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Sep 14, 2003 - 12:00 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 15, '03 From NYC, Queens Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
hm~~~ well~~~ r u really gonna put an rx7 next to a z06??? hello??? in stock form this cars are in different worlds. for all i know fd3s rx7 has 1.6 liter displacement? and to get it to hab 400+ hp that the z06 has u hab to go through a painstaking process and looooooooooooooots of money. sure rwd cars are very fun. but they aren't winter cars, which some ppl need. no matter what~~ it all boils down to money~~~ wif money u can do wutever u want. wanna make it go fast down the quarter??? bore the engine, add a turbo, swap it if u want. wanna make crazy drifts??? stiffen the suspension, get sticky tires, struts and sway bars. add a lil turbo if u'd like. but then again~~~ all boils down to money. u mite as well juss buy a lambo murcielago. hehehehe
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Sep 14, 2003 - 12:10 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 11, '03 From New York Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
....okay. But what you are "happy" and "Reassured" driving doesn't change whether its a Sports car of true performance or not. If you drive a civic, its a civic. And if you are happy cause it can go to 200k and not break down, cool for you. As for me, I'd rather have the gas pedal as my entrance to a rollercoaster ride on the way to work and back, and perhaps have a reason to look under the hood and get together with friends and mess around once in a while...including upgrading the cars power.
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Sep 14, 2003 - 12:16 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 11, '03 From New York Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Are you serious? Do you know ANYTHING about cars? The z06 is rated at 405hp. While the Rx7 is "Only" 275hp stock (In Japan), it is still a Japanese supercar...why? Well there's more to a car than what's written on paper about it... To get its ***1.3*** litres of displacement to 350rwhp which would definitely outhandle and give the z06 a run for its money requires injectors, downpipe, and perhaps an ecu (FMIC?) or even a street port. Doesn't take a lot to make a stock turbo'd Rx7 to 300rwhp or so...which is a lot given its relative LIGHT-weight. And at the same time, it outhandles most other cars, what with the engine being pushed back to provide the best 50/50 MR-ish handling and all.. I think you shouldn't comment on that which you don't know. As for what else you said, its all relevant (as others had said) but doesn't apply to the subject as to why some cars are rice and others aren't. It's simply because you make something out to what it isn't, and act/think/consider it a performance beast, when its not (ricer vehicles). Yes, with Money you can buy anything, and make any car fast (Given, you rip the eco-cars apart and basically not make it anything like how it comes stock making it more of a hybrid/mutation than to actually hold that vehicle name/title)....but we already knew that.... |
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Sep 14, 2003 - 12:45 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '02 From Sioux Falls, SD, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah, displacement on a rotary is a whole other world. The 13B gets 255HP when cramming 1.3 liters of gas and air into the rotor housing, while we get 110HP with 1.8 liters in each cylinder. And the engine is half the size of ours too.
But all in all, I want a FAST car that will get me to 200k. |
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Sep 14, 2003 - 1:10 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 25, '03 From Santa Barbara, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ok, this thread is talking about people who hate rice burners. not about how sports cars are so much greater than celicas. i was talking about how much more reliable an import like a celica is compared to a sh*tty american car. i would never ever say anything bad about a supra, Rx7, or any of those types of sports cars. the point of all this is that yea a mustang or a firebird may be fast, but they will never be as efficient or last as long as "rice burners". so therefore they should not talk smack about them, even if they are slower than those american cars. This post has been edited by 6gencelicasrule: Sep 14, 2003 - 1:11 AM |
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Sep 14, 2003 - 3:06 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i think you mean 1.8l total. if the displacement were 1.8 liters for every cylinder, that would make a huge ass 4 cylinde engine. -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Sep 14, 2003 - 3:24 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '02 From Sioux Falls, SD, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Heh, oops. I feel like a dumbass now.
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Sep 14, 2003 - 3:52 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 16, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
MY GOAL IS TO RIP A MUSTANG OR CAMARO UP.. IT WILL BE ACHIEVED BY NEXT SUMMER WITH OUT A DOUBT.
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Sep 14, 2003 - 4:17 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From ny to philly Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
this thread is getting rediculous. how did we come from talking about domestic owners who hate all imports to saying how the Celica can't compare to a 'sports car'? I think most of us know what other options exist but we decided to go with the Celica for various reasons. there really is no reason to be talking smack about the Celica because we already know its strengths and weaknesses. thanks though.
 and soundslut please stop posting in all caps, its irritating to the eyes. |
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Sep 14, 2003 - 11:54 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 25, '03 From Santa Barbara, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
haha, yes i agree |
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