What do you guys think? |
What do you guys think? |
Jul 21, 2008 - 6:19 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Is this an actual e153 lsd tranny? They say its off of a st202 3sge. A 94 so an ss-II, but I thought they didn't come lsd. I need a new tranny anyway and plus I get free axles. Would this pop right in or do I have to do the inner and outer combos? To be honest it looks like my s54 tranny, but who knows. I say its worth it to buy this bad boy and pay shipping then get a used s54 tranny with no lsd. Let me know what you guys think.
CLICK -------------------- 98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
Jul 22, 2008 - 6:14 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 11, '08 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I owned a '95 SS-I 3S-FE (non-lsd), gearbox code is S54 -04A, my current car '96 SS-III (with lsd, superstrut, 2pot) gearbox code is S54 -06D
I found this information, I'll link to it for reference: http://au.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/inde...mp;#entry187901 (edited for clarity) QUOTE If it's an N/A FWD A-series engine, it will have a C-series gearbox <------- AT200 ST If it's a forced induction FWD A-series engine, it'll have an E-series gearbox If it's a RWD A-series engine, it'll have a T-series gearbox If it's an N/A S-series engine, it'll have an S-series gearbox <------ ST202,204 SS1,2,3,GT If it's a RWD S-series engine, it'll have a J-series gearbox If it's a forced induction S-series engine, it'll have an E-series gearbox <------- ST205 GT-Four If it's a T-series engine, it'll have a T-series gearbox If it's an R-series engine, it'll have a W-series gearbox (or P51, if it's an 18RG) If it's an N/A M-series engine, it'll have a W-series gearbox If it's a forced induction M-series engine, it'll probably have an R-series gearbox If it's a JZ engine, it'll have a R-series or V-series gearbox Hope this helps -------------------- Mike W
1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOUR GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC 269awhp / 273ft-lbs |
Jul 22, 2008 - 11:49 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '04 From Newport, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 63 (99%) |
I've seen that before.
It's very different than a s54, I was thinking it's an e56 or an e153. The e56 IIRC came on st202s (ss-ii and ss-iii) and are stronger than the s54 and some have lsd. The more I look at it it does look like an e153 but it's hard to tell because it's upside down. -------------------- |
Jul 22, 2008 - 9:34 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Yeah, I was thinking the same. But it is off of an SS-II. If delusionz is correct this will fit with my current axles. And won't have to get a 3s clutch disc. To be honest this is the best bang for the buck, if someone is looking into an lsd set-up. Only time will tell. I have to rip into my tranny tomorrow to see whats going on with it.
-------------------- 98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
Jul 23, 2008 - 1:02 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
but aren't LSD axles different from non-LSD's? well, at least the tranny will come with them included.
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Jul 24, 2008 - 1:07 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
The question is, will I need to use the inner axles? Or can I just get away with just using the axles supplied?
-------------------- 98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
Aug 6, 2008 - 8:56 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Okay get this. So I bought this transmission out of desperation. We questioned if it was an E153 tranny. Someone posted that the 3sge came with lsd but it was a rare E56 tranny. I'm stumped right now. I got the axles with the tranny and guess what? The inners fit inside the tranny of course and the outers fit the rotors of my celica perfectly. The length, Perfect fitment.
I'm just stumped because a buddy of mine told me it was a converted e153 mr2 tranny. Looking at the axles it doesn't look anything like hybrid axles. So any way, the Transmission won't fit, because the shaft is the size of an E153 tranny. I have a 3sgte clutch disc alignment tool and a 5s clutch disc alignment tool and obviously the 3s one is the size of the shaft from this tranny. So here's my question, What transmission is this? IS this the item as described? Is it truly a LSD tranny? I know I will need a 3s clutch disc for this to work, but is this a LSD TRANNY????? I'm some what pissed, but excited. Let me know. -Will -------------------- 98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
Aug 7, 2008 - 5:24 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 14, '05 From Corpus Christi Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
it does have lsd. those trannys are rare and they came off of the st202 chassis so thats why they fit so well. its not a e153. i think it is a e56. check inside the tranny where the axels go. look straight through it and if theres a bar going straight across it has lsd. if you look straight through and see nothing then its non lsd. make sure you have both axles out while doing this of corse.
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Aug 7, 2008 - 3:48 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
then how come it won't fit into the clutch set-up I had when I was running with the s54 tranny? IIRC the s54 tranny has a bar going through the tranny too.
-------------------- 98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
Aug 7, 2008 - 4:39 PM |
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
then how come it won't fit into the clutch set-up I had when I was running with the s54 tranny? IIRC the s54 tranny has a bar going through the tranny too. you need a 3s clutch. the S54 does have a bar going thru it, and does not have LSD. although i DO have vids of a nice strip i laid with both tires howlling.. it actually does it prolly 75% of the time. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Aug 7, 2008 - 6:41 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
LOL.... Yeah I saw the vid. I figured this tranny was an e153 so I bought an ACT 4 puck clutch disc last night. Will, post back with results. BTW I do have that bar running in my e153. fingers crossed for lsd.
-------------------- 98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
Aug 7, 2008 - 8:30 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '04 From Newport, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 63 (99%) |
did you buy just the disk ?
don't you need the 3s pressure plate with the 3s disk ? -------------------- |
Aug 7, 2008 - 8:39 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 15, '07 From Fort Worth, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
How do I find out what tranny I have? I believe it's the standard ST202 tranny that came in the Camry as well. 5 speed, btw.
This post has been edited by GotToyota: Aug 7, 2008 - 8:40 PM |
Aug 7, 2008 - 9:04 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
I bought Just the disc. Well, I have a 2nd gen swap and I used my s54 tranny prior to this. Isn't the competition clutch kit sold by Doc a combo made for this kind of swap? I mean 3s pressure plate and 5s disc with 3s flywheel? I assumed this and just bought the disc.
-------------------- 98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
Aug 18, 2008 - 2:28 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 15, '08 From Lima - Perú Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
LOL.... Yeah I saw the vid. I figured this tranny was an e153 so I bought an ACT 4 puck clutch disc last night. Will, post back with results. BTW I do have that bar running in my e153. fingers crossed for lsd. Have you alredy done the tranny swap? Tell us your results.... |
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