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post Jul 22, 2008 - 5:06 PM
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So i have been looking to buy a another celi to do a 3s swap in and then ONE day do an AWD swap in it, i was really looking forward to this being my money pit, my project car... But... it is looking like it will be alot of money for me to get my AWD celi...

Randomly in my craigslist search for celi's a gsx eclipse came up. Now i had totally forgotten about those cars after i bought my celi, i decided against them because EVERYONE has an eclipse up here, and hardly anyone has a 6th gen. But now that i am looking into buying another car to turn into my toy they keep coming back and plauging my mind, it would be so easy to go drop money and go buy and AWD turbo'd eclipse and be done with it, doing upgrades later and such...

I am so lost frown.gif

Do i buy another celi, do the swap, then do the AWD and end up dropping around 18k in it just to get the stock 3sgte in with awd... or do i buy a gsx for 4k-9k and then spend an extra 2-4 grand on goodies?

Opinions?

This post has been edited by Legit94GT: Aug 2, 2008 - 3:23 PM


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post Jul 22, 2008 - 5:12 PM
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Hi. *SLAP* Eclipse's have CRAP trannies. If you like to replace your motor buy one...hello crankwalk,how are you doing today?


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post Jul 22, 2008 - 5:26 PM
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DSM's are cool if you find them with low mileage, but if you buy one with 80k or more, you're really asking for trouble. As 97 said, they have issues with crank walk, and their transmissions aren't very forgiving. I'd rather build the Celica up, in my opinion.
post Jul 22, 2008 - 5:59 PM
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Take a walk through a u-pull it around here and see how many celicas you find. Then walk over to the Mitsubishis and see how many Eclipses you find. You will find TONS of Eclipses. Unless you can get one that's very late 90s or better yet, 2000+, stay away from them. Total crap cars.

What's up w/your Celi? Did something happen to it?


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post Jul 22, 2008 - 6:04 PM
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If its a 98-99 2g, in great shape, then I'd say go for it.
If its a 1g, or a 95-97 2g, then stay away because they are money pits.

Or buy a 240 with an sr20 swap. Its a great car and can be made very fast for very cheap.

You could also go with a 4-5th gen alltrac, giving you an awd celica to start from.



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post Jul 22, 2008 - 6:14 PM
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ECLISPES have no head room, at all i sat in one and it felt like i was in a miata good thing it was a convert so i could look over the windsheild just like in the miata, if you want a diff car go 240 lots of parts and goodies easy to find as well but id say get the celi


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post Jul 23, 2008 - 9:57 AM
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QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Jul 22, 2008 - 5:59 PM) *
Take a walk through a u-pull it around here and see how many celicas you find. Then walk over to the Mitsubishis and see how many Eclipses you find. You will find TONS of Eclipses. Unless you can get one that's very late 90s or better yet, 2000+, stay away from them. Total crap cars.

What's up w/your Celi? Did something happen to it?


Well first things first... i found three celicas in all the u-pull its last time i looked, and only 1 was a 6th gen:) which is good and bad, cause i can never find misc parts for it for cheap.

Nothing happened to my car, its my job that changed, i got a big raise:) So i am trying to decide if i should build up another celi(or any car) as my weekend fun racecar, or do one of a million other things...

I just found Tweaks forum about crazy swaps he wants to do... looking very interesting... tongue.gif

QUOTE (Akirad1)
ECLISPES have no head room, at all i sat in one and it felt like i was in a miata good thing it was a convert so i could look over the windsheild just like in the miata, if you want a diff car go 240 lots of parts and goodies easy to find as well but id say get the celi


when my grows out it touches the celling of my celi... i am only 5'9" kindasad.gif so i am used to have no head room frown.gif


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post Jul 23, 2008 - 10:02 AM
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two words for ya regarding the poorly built dsm - crank walk
but **** if its cheap enough i'd still give it a go..


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post Jul 23, 2008 - 10:17 AM
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stop talking about it and get it
post Jul 23, 2008 - 10:28 AM
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Legit, I'm going to take the path less traveled here... I like eclipses.

Atleast, i like how they look. I've never owned one, but the mid-late 90's model is the reason i bought this Celica. Now i know this is going to get me flamed into the dirt... It was a good mistake though. biggrin.gif But i love how those eclipses look. It's been my dream car for many, Many years. Too bad i've never seen one in a scrap yard or anything like that... never found one on auction... nothin... only dealership, retailing for over 20K. frown.gif So if you dont get one... I will laugh.gif


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Via FB: fcuking awsome!!! D-man FTW!

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Damn D-Man - most impressive.

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D-Man's post should be a sticky

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LOL, oh boy, you can always count on D-Man for ridiculously hilarious posts.
post Jul 23, 2008 - 10:59 AM
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A while back a friend of mine who use to own a 6gc who was a member of this forum got a super clean 99 Eclipse GSX Convertible (yes, very rare). After the day we bought it, it started to leak oil. After it started, it leaked MAJOR oil. After we fixed that problem, one of the cylinders died and it only ran on 3 cylinders. After that, the head gasket blew while we fixed it. And then we had to bring it to Mitsubishi to rebuild the whole engine block because it was too much of a hassle. After the engine block was rebuilt and two days after we got it back, the tranny went out. Tranny would be in reverse when we would have it in first gear. And we figured the synchronizers we messed up so we had to rebuild the whole tranny. And guess what... ALL OF THIS HAPPENED WITHIN A MONTH'S TIME!!! It was problem after problem after problem. AND WE BABIED THE THING so it wouldn't break anymore but it still did. If you are willing to invest $6000 within the first year JUST TO FIX IT, then go for it. Besides that, stick with what you got or get a better selection than an Eclipse or Talon.

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post Jul 23, 2008 - 11:36 AM
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I had the car 1 year, out of which it was stored 6 months for the winter and in the garage for a whole month (if you add everything up). 'Nuff said.


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post Jul 23, 2008 - 11:42 AM
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Where'd ya get a new job w/a fat raise? I want a new job. I think my place is gonna tank. PM me. biggrin.gif


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post Jul 23, 2008 - 11:42 AM
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Well, i've been talked out of it. frown.gif


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Via FB: fcuking awsome!!! D-man FTW!

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Damn D-Man - most impressive.

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D-Man's post should be a sticky

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LOL, oh boy, you can always count on D-Man for ridiculously hilarious posts.
post Jul 23, 2008 - 1:03 PM
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QUOTE (Legit94GT @ Jul 23, 2008 - 10:57 AM) *
QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Jul 22, 2008 - 5:59 PM) *
Take a walk through a u-pull it around here and see how many celicas you find. Then walk over to the Mitsubishis and see how many Eclipses you find. You will find TONS of Eclipses. Unless you can get one that's very late 90s or better yet, 2000+, stay away from them. Total crap cars.

What's up w/your Celi? Did something happen to it?


Well first things first... i found three celicas in all the u-pull its last time i looked, and only 1 was a 6th gen:) which is good and bad, cause i can never find misc parts for it for cheap.

Nothing happened to my car, its my job that changed, i got a big raise:) So i am trying to decide if i should build up another celi(or any car) as my weekend fun racecar, or do one of a million other things...

I just found Tweaks forum about crazy swaps he wants to do... looking very interesting... tongue.gif

QUOTE (Akirad1)
ECLISPES have no head room, at all i sat in one and it felt like i was in a miata good thing it was a convert so i could look over the windsheild just like in the miata, if you want a diff car go 240 lots of parts and goodies easy to find as well but id say get the celi


when my grows out it touches the celling of my celi... i am only 5'9" kindasad.gif so i am used to have no head room frown.gif

yeah im 6'1" same hear but the eclispe was i need to open the top to fit lol


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post Jul 23, 2008 - 4:11 PM
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QUOTE (D-Man @ Jul 23, 2008 - 12:42 PM) *
Well, i've been talked out of it. frown.gif



ya... im thinking so...

Ugh i just feel like i need to be doing something other than taking pictures(to start up a photo website) working and playing halo!! ugh

maybe another toy car will be the way to go... or maybe i can just go buy some acerage so when we get invaded in the next 10 years i have a place to hold up at:) straight up go Red Dawn status:)

thanks for all your input an stories, it helped alot:)

i love this forum


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post Jul 23, 2008 - 8:29 PM
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i had a 97 gsx for awhile, it had 97k on it and the ****ing tranny took a **** on me and in my opinion their nice looking cars but i think their over-rated. DSM can be real quick but the seem to have the most problems compared to most other imports. but thats just my opinion. test drive it and look though the cars specs and condition carefully before you jump into it.


P.S. 6TH gen Celicas are soooooooooooooooo much better looking though smile.gif


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post Jul 24, 2008 - 5:43 AM
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or you could go with a Corolla AE86 like me it's not awd but they're awesome!
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If your trying to buy a second car to make fast the celica isn't your best choice. Don't get me wrong, I love my celica because its a great looking daily driver but compared to other platforms its really expensive to make fast. If you like mitsubishi's and awd check out the 3000gt vr-4 with a 5spd tranny. My friend had one and it had a few minor issues but it was a nice looking weekend warrior. If you would like to stay with toyota (a good decison), you could find a decent mr2 in your price range. Or if you really want to be unique and you can justify the spending of A LOT of money you could buy a second celica (~$2000), do a 3sgte swap (~$4000), and plan on doing an AWD conversion in the future. Even with the AWD and some go fast goodies your celica will probably be in the low 12's in the quarter mile and you will spend $12000+ on the car. I can think of a lot of cars that you can much faster for the same money.
post Jul 24, 2008 - 4:09 PM
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get an AW11 the box look is so cool


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