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 Sep 17, 2003 - 8:23 PM
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Ok I have the money for an N/A setup. Then i realized (hey I can do the swap!!)
So like a good boy, I have decided to do it. Well now that my hearts and wallet are in it so I have to be 100% sure of EVERYTHING. I went to Altered Atmosphere (east coast) they quoted me 1100-1400 labor and the car out for a month. But the downer was no one there could do the wiring and recomended a stand alone ECU thats like $1700!!! so im trying to Qatar11(aol) to do this for me. Now I have an auto im sure we know.. so Im hoping-no praying with the rebuilt T.C. that it will handle the power of the motor (1st uncertainty). Would it be aight you guys think if I had a friend who has done 3 swaps just put up the engine alone, since she bolts right up and have the wiring done through Qatar11? So what Im saying is, is it easy enough for a guy with enough knowledge to simply put the motor in or is there alot of cutting and extending lines, hoses and such? Please put forth any information or advice you have or thoughts (+/-). Im very close to it I just need to be a 100% sure on the basics and all cuz this is a major investment and gamble. |
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Sep 17, 2003 - 8:44 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
There is a few fabs that are going to have to be done, like the left "motor mount" i put it in "" cuz its small and isnt like the other mounts, it just a bolt and stuff. The actual mechanical part of the swap, isnt that difficult. Its the wiring, and if ur having Mike do it, then ur like 1/2 way done already. It doesnt take a month to do the mechanical part, thats very unimpressive since me and my friend did that part in less time than that.
For Mike to do it he's going to want the harness of the stock engine, and the 3sgte. So I would have him do it before you start anything mechanical, cuz ur not going to be getting the harness in and out when its in the engine bay. And also, make sure you get a FULL HARNESS. You cant do shizit w/o the plugs on the end. This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Sep 17, 2003 - 8:45 PM -------------------- |
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Sep 17, 2003 - 10:11 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
always, always, always
get a front clip. it will save you a lot of headaches -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Sep 18, 2003 - 1:17 AM
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i got the 4AGZE engine harness off w/ the engine in the bay.  . hehe. and yes, let mike handle the wiring, and have you and your friend put the engine in. i had the motor out of the celica in 4 hours, then, about a week of putting the 4a in and out and lining stuff up, drilling, banging, etc before it got mounted in. a month is a long time...(tho my car's been down longer than that, but hey, been waitin on wiring). -John- -------------------- AIM==Mynzeyes
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Sep 18, 2003 - 11:52 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 10, '03 From South Central Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
get the clip at venus.
venus i got mine from them, and they are good ppl. Talk to Vicky. to tell you the truth, swaping the motor is not hard. Actually, it's down right simple. I'm doing mine as we speak, I'm only waiting on a few parts. The best advise i can give you is buy every single thing you need before you get started. If you buy everything, and set aside money just incase you need something else, then you can do it in 1 week. It realy depends on how prepared you are. Like i said, buy everything you need , and you'll be fine. This post has been edited by sphinx_race911: Sep 18, 2003 - 11:52 AM |
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Sep 18, 2003 - 5:53 PM
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Well you know when you were a kid an someone told you santan doesnt exist, yea well last night I was talking to mike, and well the all-trac motor will NOT bolt up to my GT auto tranny which in case opens up a whole can of worms. Swapping the tranny can be done but Ive heard some hooror stories even when the swap is done perfectly so doing that is something Im not willing to do.
 this is a sad day my friends a sad day. Selling the car cant happen either I still have 7k left on her.
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Sep 18, 2003 - 5:54 PM
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thats *santa*
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Sep 18, 2003 - 6:35 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well, yeah, you have an auto tranny.
the auto tranny technically will bolt up but it wont work at all without a custom ecu and custom work -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Sep 20, 2003 - 1:33 AM
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Did you guys know that HKS makes a 5s to 3s harness kit?
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Sep 20, 2003 - 1:36 AM
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a link would be helpful to some peeps
oh and why wont the auto tranny work? |
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Sep 20, 2003 - 1:49 AM
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Sep 20, 2003 - 1:57 AM
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40 bucks thats amazing
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Sep 20, 2003 - 2:51 AM
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dude, thats a turbo timer harness -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Sep 20, 2003 - 2:53 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
all auto tranny's that will bolt up to a 3sgte are electronically controlled by the car's ECU. now a 3sgte ECU is programmed for a 5spd tranny. it wont work. a custom ECU as well as a custom flywheel setup or a auto 3sge tranny and its TC and flywheel need to be used. it will be expensive, and take a long long time to perfect, it will work -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Sep 20, 2003 - 9:30 AM
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Another possible option is to source parts from a Caldina GT-T. From what I can remember these are the only cars to come out standard with the 3SGTE and an Auto trans.
Others may be able to comment on how feasible (mechanically/financially/obtainable) this option is - I'm not a mechanic or in the US just putting the option out there.
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Sep 20, 2003 - 3:29 PM
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ok just wondering my car is a manual now (awd) anyway. just wondering |
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Sep 20, 2003 - 3:30 PM
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yea thats a turbo timer harness the harness on your engine is way longer than that and it looks a little different too. |
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Sep 20, 2003 - 4:59 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
What can I say, Nopi is really specific, lol.
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