Prodigy515's build up thread Options

[Dr_Tweak]

good job guys!

loving the OEM COP setup, one of the things that i realllllly like about the 4th gen 3s. well, that and the pimp OEM side feed manifold. lol

tweek, do you have a solid source for 4th gen parts?
just curious.

Yeah, the manifold is teh hotness.

As a matter of fact, I do

-Doc

[pitcelica]

sorry to hijack the thread :

Manny,

I'm selling some gen4 engine parts. Look at this thread :

http://www.alltrac.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=29319

Thanks

Sam

[easternpiro1]

sorry to hijack the thread :

Manny,

I'm selling some gen4 engine parts. Look at this thread :

http://www.alltrac.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=29319

Thanks

Sam

i think i want to cry... sorry to hijack the hijacker.

are you guys going to dyno tune?

[Dr_Tweak]

pitcelica, I'm interested in that downpipe!!!

Matt, first order of business is going to be to build a full 3" mandrel-bent stainless steel tig-welded exhaust system. Then, we'll pick up a boost controller, and run it on the dyno to tune the cam gearS. Then I forsee us picking up an AEM FI/C and seeing what we can do with that

-Doc

[Prodigy515]

Sorry I haven't had time to post up....but wow the car feels great. When we finished the swap on sunday my 30 minute drive home turned into aout a 3.5 hour long drive all around the surronding area. First and second gear do not have traction as of now I am looking forward to seeing what the lsd will do for it. Also need to do some brake and suspension work on the car to help it handle the power.

All in all the car is amazing, it is nice to be able to tell people that I have a swapped car and that there is NO check engine light on, I have cruise control, a/c, and power steering. oh and it is pretty fast too.

[Dr_Tweak]

Vids anyone?

I don't know how to make these smaller for downloading, sorry...

Engine running:

http://phoenixtuning.com/bennett/PA280003.MOV

1-2 shift in the parking lot:

http://phoenixtuning.com/bennett/PA280004.MOV

2nd gear pass and shift to third from in the car:

http://phoenixtuning.com/bennett/PA280006.MOV

-Doc

This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Oct 28, 2008 - 7:40 PM

[easternpiro1]

NICE!!! IMMA CALLIN YOU OUT PARTNER!!!

[DEATH]

NICE!!! IMMA CALLIN YOU OUT PARTNER!!!

Oh hell yeah - I DEMAND vids of that!

[presure2]

good job guys!

loving the OEM COP setup, one of the things that i realllllly like about the 4th gen 3s. well, that and the pimp OEM side feed manifold. lol

tweek, do you have a solid source for 4th gen parts?
just curious.

Yeah, the manifold is teh hotness.

As a matter of fact, I do

-Doc

ahh thats good to hear, i had heard the 4th gen parts are a bunch harder to come by than the 3rd gen,...do you find that to be true?
pittcelica, im not looking for any parts, like i said to tweek, i was just curious.

[Dr_Tweak]

Uh, not really, no... and a lot of parts are shared between the 3rd and 4th gen engines anyway

-Doc

[presure2]

Uh, not really, no... and a lot of parts are shared between the 3rd and 4th gen engines anyway

-Doc

awesome, good to know.

[99GT]

Tweak... make a list of parts between the 3rd and 4th. Please.....

[Dr_Tweak]

Well, timing belt for one

Is there something specific you guys are concerned about replacing?

-Doc

[chacha]

DR. Tweak...im very proud of your flawless works and someday...ill just ship you my car...i plan to do a restoration someday and i can't think of anyone else to do the job other than you...and PROD...i ENVY YOU and EAST for putting in the ST215, but once I save up, i'll join you two in on the club of the st215; Prod how much was estimated cost for whole project? (and doc...really just three days huh?) ,

This post has been edited by chacha: Oct 29, 2008 - 9:20 PM

[easternpiro1]

Tweak... make a list of parts between the 3rd and 4th. Please.....

this is a list that pitcelica made, as you can see in prodigy's pics the 3rd gen cams fit (with some modification?)


So, as I can seen, a lot of people want to know what are the aftermarket parts are available for the ST215 3SGTE engine. Here's are some parts that are bolt on :

-Adjustable cam gear (AEM, Fidanza, HKS, OBX, ATS). Any cam gear kit for 3SGTE will fit.

-XS Power SSAC ST205 manifold/downpipe used with a ST205 turbo will convert the one-piece ST215 manifold/turbo to a nicely upgradeable ST205 Ct20b turbo kit. You can add to this a t3/t4 adaptor and you will be able to use a t3/t4 turbo (like I did on my ST215 swap)

-Pistons, rods, crankshaft are all the same for ST205 and ST215

-The injectors are the same as the ST205 one, so, if there is a 3rd gen fuel system available, it will fit the ST215 too.

-The exhaust camshaft is the same as the ST205 one. So an HKS 264/272 exhaust camshaft will bolt on. For the intake, I don't know if the HKS one would fit. Next year, when money will allow it, I'll buy a HKS264/264 camshaft kit and I'll know if the intake camshaft fit or not.

-You can remove the top ATA intercooler and add a FMIC as easy as any other 3SGTE.

The things that need heavy custom work is the ECU/wiring harness, ignition component (because of coil-on-plug). In my case, I used a Megasquirt II ECU with Ford EDIS wastespark ignition system and everything works nicely.

The other aftermarket parts like BOV, wastegate, air intake, boost controller etc, can be fitted easily like on any other 3SGTE engine.

So plz, stop saying that the ST215 engine isn't easily modifiable, there are plenty of parts that can be used to give a lil more hp to this unknown beast.

[99GT]

Tweak... make a list of parts between the 3rd and 4th. Please.....

So plz, stop saying that the ST215 engine isn't easily modifiable, there are plenty of parts that can be used to give a lil more hp to this unknown beast.

I wasn't asking about mods... I was talking more about oem parts.

[easternpiro1]

Tweak... make a list of parts between the 3rd and 4th. Please.....

So plz, stop saying that the ST215 engine isn't easily modifiable, there are plenty of parts that can be used to give a lil more hp to this unknown beast.

I wasn't asking about mods... I was talking more about oem parts.

it was a whole post copied. i forgot to take that out. it was a discussion on another thread. not a comment directed to anyone. :

[pitcelica]

hi, here are some oem parts that are interchangeable :

-pistons
-connecting rods
-crankshaft
-exhaust camshaft
-cam gears
-timing belt
-water pump
-Intake manifold (bolt pattern are the same)
-fuel rail and injectors from ST215 are 540cc and top feed, so they have the same output rating as gen3, but they are top feed instead of side-feed(gen3)
-exhaust manifold (same bolt pattern)(but the 4th gen exhaust manifold is casted with the turbine housing)
-MAT sensor (manifold air temp)
-MAP sensor
-crank pulley
-oil pans
-oil pickup system
-knock sensor
-ac compressor
-alternator (I need to verify this)

I need to look at valves and springs to see if they are interchangeable or not. I'll look in my Toyota EPC later.

Hope to help!

sam

[Dr_Tweak]

The alternator can be replaced with one from any 5SFE or 3SGTE, along with the a/c compressor and the p/s pump (though the 4th gen p/s pump uses an electronic sending unit for the idle-up).

Bear in mind that the 4th gen injectors are also high-impedance, and no resistor pack is used.

-Doc

[easternpiro1]

also, the starter is interchangeable. and VERY easy to install.