Toyota's best naturally aspirated engine, what is it? Options

[Hanyo]

Bored and was browsing the web and got me thinking.

What is toyota's best naturally aspirated engine? What has the most tuner support? This doesnt nessary need to fit into our celica that is why its off topic.

So far what i read about is the 2jzge with intake vvti which makes around 220 hp.

[jason]

4age - older, but stood the test of time, best engine for its era

id also agree on the 2jzge, but power to weight, id think the 4a wins, or the 3sge beams even

no technical reasons, just my current thoughts

[MaskedMan]

I believe the blacktop 3sge is one of their better engines. I like the 2UR-GSE mmmm .

[MercuryFree]

1uzfe/3uzfe

[Kwanza26]

2JZGE!? 1/3UZ!? Not even close.

If by "best" you mean most powerful n/a motor, then you have to measure it by HP per liter. There's only 3 motors that come to mind.

Blacktop Beams 3SGE, rated around 200hp out of 2 liters... Blacktop 20V rated around 160hp out of 1.6 liters, and the 2ZZGE rated at 180-190hp out of 1.8 liters. No other Toyota 4 banger can touch these...

As far as V6's go... the new GR series is by FAR the best (V6) toyota has ever built. Excellent fuel economy, great power, excellent torque curve, lightweight.

As for V8's... IS-F... nothing else (toyota) comes close.

[saleeka]

I'm hoping we see more motors from Toyota with their new "Valvematic" system in the near future (3ZR-FAE). It's like BMW's Valvetronic technology. Mabey it will find it's way in a performace application? It's still only Japanese market technology, sadly...

[playr158]

Blacktop Beams 3SGE, rated around 200hp out of 2 liters... Blacktop 20V rated around 160hp out of 1.6 liters, and the 2ZZGE rated at 180-190hp out of 1.8 liters. No other Toyota 4 banger can touch these...

I whole heartedly agree here (as i'm getting older I find us agreeing more often )
I just wish I could fund that motor right now

[jazzcornet]

im a diehard 3s fan, but i would have to say the 4aeg was one of the greater motors. not 4age, but 4aeg. look it up

[Kwanza26]

im a diehard 3s fan, but i would have to say the 4aeg was one of the greater motors. not 4age, but 4aeg. look it up

You know those aren't just random letters/numbers in Toyota engine codes right? How can a "4aeg" be great and not a "4age"? Lol... anyway...

[xs94st]

wtf is a 4aeg.

[jazzcornet]

4a denotes the block code. the 4 tells you that it is a 1.6L displacement block. the "a" denotes the blocks mating features. the ge denotes the head type. "g" means high-er flowing head and the e means it's a dohc.

similarly, the 3s and 5s have the same block but different displacement. hense why the heads will mate to either block. the fe is the lower flowing head and the ge is the higher flowing head. the "eg" head is pretty special. run a search for it. (t is obviously for turbo and z is obviously for supercharged)

[MaskedMan]

4a denotes the block code. the 4 tells you that it is a 1.6L displacement block. the "a" denotes the blocks mating features. the ge denotes the head type. "g" means high-er flowing head and the e means it's a dohc.

similarly, the 3s and 5s have the same block but different displacement. hense why the heads will mate to either block. the fe is the lower flowing head and the ge is the higher flowing head. the "eg" head is pretty special. run a search for it. (t is obviously for turbo and z is obviously for supercharged)

Your information is a bit inaccurate. Perhaps you should go run a search.

[808celica]

wtf is a 4aeg.

duhh xavy its toyotas 12 cyc. 10 turbo engine they have in the prius car










is there really a 4aeg engine though ???????

[xs94st]

i dont think there is a 4aeg.

toyota had 4a-e's, but those pushed a whopping 75hp.

i think its the 4age/ze he's talking about.

[jazzcornet]

im not going to do your homework if you dont believe me. but just a simple google search netted me thousands of results on the 4aeg.

it even has aftermarket support

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/C...n-149533050.htm

edit: what was the swapped engine in the AE86 in Initial D?? anyone know?

This post has been edited by jazzcornet: Apr 27, 2008 - 8:10 PM

[Culpable04]

I'm not a engine savy but everything I find seems to be a typong error

the Corolla GT-S was the sleeper and bargain of the group. Its 16-valve, 4AEG twin-cam, which was also used in the original MR2s and as the basis for a Toyota Atlantic engine, is still one of the coolest engines ever made.

the header you showed seems to be for a 4age as well.



you can also do a search for 3sget and you'll have a lot of results as well, dont take this in a negative way, we may be missing something here or you may be confuse.

[jazzcornet]

^^ i stand corrected. i found a few sites that had differing info and a comparison of the 4age and the 4aeg. what i didn't realize is that the damn european's were calling the 4agze the 4aeg. i should've known when they were comparing the compression and the ignition timing advance. i apologise for making a complete ass of myself

[808celica]

AHHhhh!!! too much numbers and letters............. i didnt say you were wrong or anything. i didnt even know that engine existed.......i watched initial d but im not those kids who would die for an hachi just to copy what he seen in a cartoon. i just simply asked "is there really a 4aeg engine???"

This post has been edited by 808celica: Apr 27, 2008 - 11:07 PM

[Culpable04]

^^ i stand corrected. i found a few sites that had differing info and a comparison of the 4age and the 4aeg. what i didn't realize is that the damn european's were calling the 4agze the 4aeg. i should've known when they were comparing the compression and the ignition timing advance. i apologise for making a complete ass of myself

you did not make an a$$ of yourself, you were misinformend and you realized it and accepted, that on my boox is part of being a winner.

[vincent_doggy]

I luv my 3seg engine... but red top beams 3seg by yamaha would be better...