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post Oct 4, 2008 - 6:43 PM
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I was reading celicav's post about the ebay headers and i was wondering how it would sound if i have stock exaust? Im planning on getting the headers and i dont

want my car to sound ricey. I will eventually get a cat-back exaust but i wanna get the headers first.


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post Oct 5, 2008 - 1:22 AM
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the only difference I noticed was a growl whenever I would start up the car.
post Oct 5, 2008 - 1:45 AM
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woooo ! can't wait to install it!


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post Oct 5, 2008 - 11:01 AM
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I ran just the header for something like a month before I got my exhaust done, and there is a sound difference, you MAY feel a little more umph on acceleration but more than likely no.. If you have a CAI or SR than it will just sound even better, CAI was my first mod and when I fired it up the first time it was like a whole new world opened up for me, when I installed the header and fired it up I think I jumped to another world. Adding an exhaust will only make things better, just don't buy a muffler that is too loud. I have a borla xr1 muffler (I think, i don't remember) and it's quite loud but there are many mufflers you can get that aren't that loud but sound good.


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post Oct 7, 2008 - 1:20 PM
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QUOTE (bseaman_5 @ Oct 5, 2008 - 11:01 AM) *
I ran just the header for something like a month before I got my exhaust done, and there is a sound difference, you MAY feel a little more umph on acceleration but more than likely no.. If you have a CAI or SR than it will just sound even better, CAI was my first mod and when I fired it up the first time it was like a whole new world opened up for me, when I installed the header and fired it up I think I jumped to another world. Adding an exhaust will only make things better, just don't buy a muffler that is too loud. I have a borla xr1 muffler (I think, i don't remember) and it's quite loud but there are many mufflers you can get that aren't that loud but sound good.


so there is no sound difference if i have a sri and stock exaust?


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post Oct 7, 2008 - 6:05 PM
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QUOTE (BeefyT @ Oct 7, 2008 - 1:20 PM) *
QUOTE (bseaman_5 @ Oct 5, 2008 - 11:01 AM) *
I ran just the header for something like a month before I got my exhaust done, and there is a sound difference, you MAY feel a little more umph on acceleration but more than likely no.. If you have a CAI or SR than it will just sound even better, CAI was my first mod and when I fired it up the first time it was like a whole new world opened up for me, when I installed the header and fired it up I think I jumped to another world. Adding an exhaust will only make things better, just don't buy a muffler that is too loud. I have a borla xr1 muffler (I think, i don't remember) and it's quite loud but there are many mufflers you can get that aren't that loud but sound good.


so there is no sound difference if i have a sri and stock exaust?


From what I've read, if you swap out the original 5sfe (not sure what engine you've got) with a tubular design, you should get improvements all the way around, along with better sound. If you can, get a 4-2-1 header, it'll just make you set up run that much smoother.

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post Oct 7, 2008 - 6:44 PM
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QUOTE (razor7 @ Oct 7, 2008 - 7:05 PM) *
QUOTE (BeefyT @ Oct 7, 2008 - 1:20 PM) *
QUOTE (bseaman_5 @ Oct 5, 2008 - 11:01 AM) *
I ran just the header for something like a month before I got my exhaust done, and there is a sound difference, you MAY feel a little more umph on acceleration but more than likely no.. If you have a CAI or SR than it will just sound even better, CAI was my first mod and when I fired it up the first time it was like a whole new world opened up for me, when I installed the header and fired it up I think I jumped to another world. Adding an exhaust will only make things better, just don't buy a muffler that is too loud. I have a borla xr1 muffler (I think, i don't remember) and it's quite loud but there are many mufflers you can get that aren't that loud but sound good.


so there is no sound difference if i have a sri and stock exaust?


From what I've read, if you swap out the original 5sfe (not sure what engine you've got) with a tubular design, you should get improvements all the way around, along with better sound. If you can, get a 4-2-1 header, it'll just make you set up run that much smoother.

-TC


Yea im have the 5sfe and i just got my headers in right now biggrin.gif ....ill post up pics as soon as i can


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post Oct 7, 2008 - 6:46 PM
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QUOTE (BeefyT @ Oct 7, 2008 - 6:44 PM) *
Yea im have the 5sfe and i just got my headers in right now biggrin.gif ....ill post up pics as soon as i can


Ooh, which ones did you put in? I checked Ebay for some, and they're either for the 1.8L or they're the 4-1 for the 2.2 It's fine, I just need 5S-FE headers that are 4-2-1 that will fit (I keep reading that the MR2's won't).

I'm interested in pics!

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post Oct 7, 2008 - 6:55 PM
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QUOTE (razor7 @ Oct 7, 2008 - 6:46 PM) *
QUOTE (BeefyT @ Oct 7, 2008 - 6:44 PM) *
Yea im have the 5sfe and i just got my headers in right now biggrin.gif ....ill post up pics as soon as i can


Ooh, which ones did you put in? I checked Ebay for some, and they're either for the 1.8L or they're the 4-1 for the 2.2 It's fine, I just need 5S-FE headers that are 4-2-1 that will fit (I keep reading that the MR2's won't).

I'm interested in pics!

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I think theyre 4-1 headers...i got the 2.2


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post Oct 7, 2008 - 7:13 PM
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sry for the quality its from my phone

This post has been edited by BeefyT: Oct 7, 2008 - 7:14 PM


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post Oct 7, 2008 - 11:02 PM
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nice i really cant wait to get mines.post pics of installation and finished product. should come out nice.


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post Oct 7, 2008 - 11:49 PM
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QUOTE (BeefyT @ Oct 7, 2008 - 12:20 PM) *
QUOTE (bseaman_5 @ Oct 5, 2008 - 11:01 AM) *
I ran just the header for something like a month before I got my exhaust done, and there is a sound difference, you MAY feel a little more umph on acceleration but more than likely no.. If you have a CAI or SR than it will just sound even better, CAI was my first mod and when I fired it up the first time it was like a whole new world opened up for me, when I installed the header and fired it up I think I jumped to another world. Adding an exhaust will only make things better, just don't buy a muffler that is too loud. I have a borla xr1 muffler (I think, i don't remember) and it's quite loud but there are many mufflers you can get that aren't that loud but sound good.


so there is no sound difference if i have a sri and stock exaust?


Sri will sound great too. Idk what it sounds like exactly cuz I have a cai but from what I've heard sri sound great too. The header will add sound and I haven't seen any other header for the 5sfe other than the ebay 4 to 1 header


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post Oct 8, 2008 - 2:37 AM
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QUOTE (bseaman_5 @ Oct 7, 2008 - 11:49 PM) *
QUOTE (BeefyT @ Oct 7, 2008 - 12:20 PM) *
QUOTE (bseaman_5 @ Oct 5, 2008 - 11:01 AM) *
I ran just the header for something like a month before I got my exhaust done, and there is a sound difference, you MAY feel a little more umph on acceleration but more than likely no.. If you have a CAI or SR than it will just sound even better, CAI was my first mod and when I fired it up the first time it was like a whole new world opened up for me, when I installed the header and fired it up I think I jumped to another world. Adding an exhaust will only make things better, just don't buy a muffler that is too loud. I have a borla xr1 muffler (I think, i don't remember) and it's quite loud but there are many mufflers you can get that aren't that loud but sound good.


so there is no sound difference if i have a sri and stock exaust?


Sri will sound great too. Idk what it sounds like exactly cuz I have a cai but from what I've heard sri sound great too. The header will add sound and I haven't seen any other header for the 5sfe other than the ebay 4 to 1 header


yea im gonna install it tomorrow right after work lol. whats the difference in a 4-2-1 header and a 4-1 header?


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post Oct 8, 2008 - 4:36 AM
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QUOTE (BeefyT @ Oct 8, 2008 - 6:37 PM) *
whats the difference in a 4-2-1 header and a 4-1 header?

id like to know too tongue.gif


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post Oct 8, 2008 - 12:58 PM
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Headers makes diferences!! I put ebay headers some weeks ago..
You fell the car kick in a lot sooner in RPM range, response when you hit the pedal is better.
But headers is good only if you gone make update on the rest of exauths parts.....If you keep stock the rest of exhaust parts i think you will not fell nothing special.

So put headers BUT alson change the rest of exhaust parts...cat-back....muffler ...

4-2-1 is the best ALL-AROUND option.



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QUOTE (elastikman @ Oct 9, 2008 - 4:58 AM) *
4-2-1 is the best ALL-AROUND option.

thank you id keep that in mind for when i purchase mine wink.gif


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post Oct 8, 2008 - 4:17 PM
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I think the 4-2-1 is literally like saying 4-to-1. Cuz any header for the 2.2L is 4 pipes that go to one 'downpipe'. That's just my take on it


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post Oct 8, 2008 - 5:02 PM
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QUOTE (bseaman_5 @ Oct 8, 2008 - 10:17 PM) *
I think the 4-2-1 is literally like saying 4-to-1. Cuz any header for the 2.2L is 4 pipes that go to one 'downpipe'. That's just my take on it

Not quite... wink.gif

4-2-1 is the 4 pipes from the exhaust ports on the head, collecting into pairs (2), and then each of those collecting into one. 4-1 is same thing, except they don't pair off, they simply collect into a single pipe.


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post Oct 8, 2008 - 6:11 PM
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Ok well as far as I kno that isn't available for the 2.2, the header in the pictures above collects into 1 pipe


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post Oct 14, 2008 - 6:25 PM
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do you guys have any idea where i could find some 4-2-1 headers for a 97 7afe?

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