3sge engines.. Options

[BonzaiCelica]

So i've been wondering fora long time now how is that toyota was not able to produce a powerful enough engine here in the U.S. to compete with honda. I mean how come honda was able to have 160 hp SI civics with b16 and b18 engines.The best the U.S. can come up is a 2.2 135 hp stock engine. How come they werent able to modify the 3sge with egr or w/e is necessary to pass U.S. emissions. Even it it had like 10 less hp. I mean i dont know if im just talking out of my butt or something but i want to know. Also, are the SS-III low and high beam headlights made out of glass??

[RickJamesBish]

All models have glass.

[DEATH]

How about 177hp 3rd gen 3S-GE or 197-210HP 4th Gen 3S-GE BEAMS, 180 HP USDM version of the 197HP 2ZZ-GE? There are several 4cyl engines they made that are better than 160HP they just didn't choose to offer most of them here.
The short form I believe is the higher HP 4cyl offerings they did give us [200HP USDM ST-185 good enough?] didn't sell. The other thing is I don't think Toyota was worried too much about competing HP to HP with Honda - owners of both car makes may be worried about that competition but they didn't seem to be. Why should they?
But both two of those above were offered here - ST-165/185/SW20 3S-GTE and 2ZZ-GE.

Edit: Oh hell - I forgot about the 4A-GZE's too.

This post has been edited by DEATH: Oct 23, 2008 - 10:26 AM

[Shigexile]

its because they wouldn't sell, simple as that.

st185 was unsuccessful at 200hp, celicas doesn't have that "sports car" status, and the car itself is unpopular.

[BonzaiCelica]

hmm oh ok so since the gt-4 5th gen celi didnt get much sales with such a potential engine they decided to not bring 3sge engine overseas here to the U.S. cause it would be a waste of money right.
Also, the celica was overpriced right or were they around the same price as the integra....

oh ok so all the headlights are made of glass i see thanks