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post Nov 17, 2008 - 11:50 PM
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ok i got a stock 94 celica with a 7afe engine kindasad.gif its weak really weak and old runnin about 236000 miles so i wanna do a swap but i dont know which one would be best i have researched alot and thought about the diffrant options but out of 3sgte and the 4agze or 7age with little money and not too much experiance wat would be the best and cheapest/ easiest swap for me
post Nov 18, 2008 - 12:01 AM
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cheapest and easiest, swap in another 7afe. No need to worry about the wire harness and its cheap.


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post Nov 18, 2008 - 12:05 PM
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By far the best bang for your buck for an ST: 4AGE Blacktop.

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post Nov 18, 2008 - 6:47 PM
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i would go with another 7afe but i thought about if i turboed it and the rods are very weak and thin but i have done alot of thinking about the 4age but the blacktop is a 20valve right? why a 20 valve over a 16 valve?? would it require more work??
post Nov 18, 2008 - 6:55 PM
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It's not any more work than a 16v to swap it, it just makes more power smile.gif

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post Nov 18, 2008 - 7:00 PM
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hmm sounds good to me so how much mods. am i lookin forwards too for this swap??
post Nov 18, 2008 - 7:44 PM
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depends...look on ebay..


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post Nov 18, 2008 - 10:02 PM
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ok thanks for the help
post Nov 18, 2008 - 10:04 PM
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put a twin charged 4agze in it


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post Nov 18, 2008 - 10:25 PM
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that would be sweet but dont you have to fabricate the 2nd supercharger or do they make twin charged 4agzes???
post Nov 18, 2008 - 10:43 PM
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i am in the exact same boat as this guy except i know nothing about engine swaps lol
post Nov 18, 2008 - 11:22 PM
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how hard is it to do a 4A swap in our cars?
engine mounts? do i need to modify them?
and will my 7A tranny mount to it?


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post Nov 19, 2008 - 12:32 AM
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well i have researched and ive seen that all "a" trannys will mate right with all "A" motors but the motor mounts im not too sure ive probly read it but dont remember.. but i need to know wat the easiest way to program the ecu should i get the 4age ecu mated with my wiring harness or should i get a megasquirt?? or get my stock ecu reprogrammed??
post Nov 19, 2008 - 7:38 AM
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im pretty sure 'A' engines mount no problem
post Nov 19, 2008 - 9:55 AM
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yeah well that works out i think im going to go with the 4age blacktop and turbo it but the thing is i herd hat the 4agze motors came with a 6 speed tranny and i have an automatic how hard would it be to drop a 6 speed maual into my car??
post Nov 19, 2008 - 10:23 AM
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im thinking about swapping the tranny from auto to manual, so maybe once i get the money ill go up to there to the jdm guy lol
and have him swap my auto to manual, bc the 4A i found came w/ a 5sp
soooo ill keep the tranny and use my auto 1 until i get the $$$ and parts


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post Nov 19, 2008 - 1:17 PM
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is a 4a swap a rwd swap?


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post Nov 19, 2008 - 4:26 PM
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from wat i rad it can be either but i do know that u have to get a fwd tranny of coarse but yeah i have seen fwd and rwd 4ages
post Nov 19, 2008 - 4:37 PM
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QUOTE (celica09 @ Nov 18, 2008 - 10:25 PM) *
that would be sweet but dont you have to fabricate the 2nd supercharger or do they make twin charged 4agzes???


You would add a custom turbo system to the 4AGZE which is already supercharged. I don't recommend it though. Here are some pics of it actually being done:

http://www.phoenixtuning.com/toyota/swaps/brandon.html

QUOTE (celica9110 @ Nov 18, 2008 - 11:22 PM) *
how hard is it to do a 4A swap in our cars?
engine mounts? do i need to modify them?
and will my 7A tranny mount to it?


It swaps right in using either transmission, and use your stock axles. You will need custom wiring, a/c lines, p/s lines, and a little exhaust and intake work.


QUOTE (celica09 @ Nov 19, 2008 - 12:32 AM) *
well i have researched and ive seen that all "a" trannys will mate right with all "A" motors but the motor mounts im not too sure ive probly read it but dont remember.. but i need to know wat the easiest way to program the ecu should i get the 4age ecu mated with my wiring harness or should i get a megasquirt?? or get my stock ecu reprogrammed??


Just have the wiring converted: http://www.phoenixtuning.com/

QUOTE (celica09 @ Nov 19, 2008 - 9:55 AM) *
yeah well that works out i think im going to go with the 4age blacktop and turbo it but the thing is i herd hat the 4agze motors came with a 6 speed tranny and i have an automatic how hard would it be to drop a 6 speed maual into my car??


The 6-speed from the 4AGE 20v blacktop should bolt right in like any other 4AGE.

QUOTE (celica09 @ Nov 19, 2008 - 4:26 PM) *
from wat i rad it can be either but i do know that u have to get a fwd tranny of coarse but yeah i have seen fwd and rwd 4ages


In the Celica it's FWD. It can be swapped into some older RWD cars as well, like the AE86.

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post Nov 19, 2008 - 10:37 PM
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so just to be sure a 7afe would bolt up to a 4age tranny??

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