Screws with Emissions??, here we go again..i KNOW! Options

[Rook]

Ok. I know its been discussed thouroghly but i'm not wanting to go through all the threads trying to find out how many ppl's emissions got messed up. This is about the ebay header. I'm wanting to put one in my Celica but i'm not sure if that'd be smart since i've heard it messes up your emissions. I was then told some ppl say it does and some say it doesn't. I want to know how many of you guy's emissions has been screwed up by the ebay header. Input deeply appreciated

If you've used a different header your input is appreciated as well

[Promasta]

it really depend on where you live
the ebay header replaces one of the stock cats, so yes it is going to affect emissions
if you use the 98-01 stock camry header (it allows for more flow and is lighter) it comes with that cat so you won't have problems with emissions

[Rook]

I live in Houston, TX. Will it be affected a significant amount?

[Tigawoods]

are emissions strict in TX? they are in PA, i have headers that deleted a cat. i didnt really need to do much tho, changed out the spark plugs and then changed the oil and i passed.

[DEATH]

I live in Houston, TX. Will it be affected a significant amount?

Not if you do it right.


This post has been edited by DEATH: Dec 10, 2008 - 11:48 AM

[stl95celica]

In Missouri if your cars older then a 96 you dont have to take an emissions test

[njccmd2002]

it really depend on where you live
the ebay header replaces one of the stock cats, so yes it is going to affect emissions
if you use the 98-01 stock camry header (it allows for more flow and is lighter) it comes with that cat so you won't have problems with emissions

but does it fit straight without mods...

[DEATH]

Not from what I've been told - the crossmember on the Camry is in a different location so the exhaust is routed differently. I don't know this to be fact - just what I was told. The person to ask would be Darth Ripley - she owns one of those Camry's as her DD.

[darthripley]

on a '98-01 Camry there is a motor mount directly to the left of the header (facing the car)
i call this the "oatmeal can" mount since that's what it looks like to me.
the crossmember is mounted differently which will not allow a Celica 5sfe header or a 3sge header to fit correctly on a Camry.
This crossmember is what allows a 1mz-fe to be a direct fit in a Camry, but not in a Celica.

However, I do know that a Camry header is a direct fit in a 5th gen Celica. In a 6th gen Celica ... I can't say 100% yes or no direct fit. I know the bolts will fit on the head perfectly, but as far as the exhaust goes ... you may have to take it to a shop for some custom work, but shouldn't be a big deal.

1 other point to add ... Unless the Camry is a Cali spec model - there is only 1 Cat in the midpipe, not 2. Fed Models (all other states spec) have only 1 Cat in the Midpipe.
Everyone gets this wrong all the time.
The 3sgte has 2 cats 1 in the Downpipe & 1 in the Midpipe.

As far as emissions goes there is no reason it should ruin your emissions as long as you replace the O2 sensor as needed per regular maintenance.
What the header may do is cause you have a CEL --- this is common in Camry's (not sure about 6gc's) but a J-shaped bung that can be bought at stores online may solve this problem.
I'm going to be buying a header + midpipe (b-pipe) for my Camry soon so I can report back regarding emissions, but it shouldn't be anything that wouldn't allow me to pass easily.

[Rook]

I live in Houston, TX. Will it be affected a significant amount?

Not if you do it right.

ok so how would you do it right?

[D-Man]

I live in Houston, TX. Will it be affected a significant amount?

Not if you do it right.

ok so how would you do it right?

Haveing an OBDII you'll wanna be resetting your ECU; and re"training" the "brain" when you're done; to rid yourself of the CEL that may or may not light up. Then you wont have to worry about getting hit with the sniffer thus releaving you of your problem. Sometimes the CEL will come back; but as ripley said about the 02 sensor bing the issue... So just be fixing the issue and not having the problem. Easy as pie.

Where in houston are you?

[Rook]

I'm not exactly in houston...just close. lol. I live in Magnolia, north of Houston

So i'm pretty sure i wouldn't be able to reset my ECU..hehe. I don't even know who to take it to or wat.

oh and as far as my O2 sensor goes, i havent had problems with it. lol..how often is its "regular maintanence?"

[D-Man]

So i'm pretty sure i wouldn't be able to reset my ECU..hehe. I don't even know who to take it to or wat.

*sigh* Damn noobs... Common man...

http://www.6gc.net/howto/reset_your_air_fuel_ratio

Its right there on the home page

[Rook]

So i'm pretty sure i wouldn't be able to reset my ECU..hehe. I don't even know who to take it to or wat.

*sigh* Damn noobs... Common man...

http://www.6gc.net/howto/reset_your_air_fuel_ratio

Its right there on the home page

haha. wow thanks man the name's rook for a reason...i figured i'd have lots of dumb questions.

but yeah thats not hard at all. hopefully i'll put in a header after christmas since the holiday has drained my bank account

[D-Man]

Right on. lol. You'll never know untill you ask. That's what we're here for. Any other questions; good sir?

[Rook]

Right on. lol. You'll never know untill you ask. That's what we're here for. Any other questions; good sir?

lol y yes...O2 sensor maintance?

[D-Man]

Eh... they dont really go bad often... but it's a good idea to change it out every so often. I know that NGK makes a super spiffy one. But i've still got my stock one sitting on 250,000 + miles so... Depends if you go FI as well. Then you'll be needing a wideband.

[Rook]

k:) oh...and i have heard that the header will heat up alot. I asked and they said something about heat wrapping or painting it. i figured i'd just paint it cus its probably easier...i'm just wondering wat paint to use

[Spider77]

With all the prep work and such I dont really see how painting it would be easier. Just heat wrap it use some metal zip ties and your good.

[D-Man]

k:) oh...and i have heard that the header will heat up alot. I asked and they said something about heat wrapping or painting it. i figured i'd just paint it cus its probably easier...i'm just wondering wat paint to use

Paint usualy wears quickly on this item.
Most people prefer to wrap them; witch you can, and it's a good idea. Go ahead. it's not needed for say, but it'll help.