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post Dec 21, 2008 - 1:23 PM
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WAS READ STICKY POST ON Suspension Techniques Sway Bars


BUT NEVER SAID THEY HAVE CHANGED FOR SURE SO THAT IS wink.gif KNOW MORE RUBBING OR NOISE AFTER INSTALL??

I HAVE GT-S MODEL SO DO U GUYS GET RUBBING OR NOISE .. AND HOW IS THE PERFORMANCE WITH THE TEIN SS ADDED


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post Dec 21, 2008 - 1:27 PM
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they have e new version now that doesnt rub. i was pretty sure that was for the ST's. so u are good either way.

teins are very good coilovers. they are the softer of the coilovers offered for our cars. and they dont come with the upper pillowball mounts so u will have to get some cuscos for aroun $250


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post Dec 21, 2008 - 1:32 PM
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whats the pillowball mount? you have to get that when you get tein ss coilovers?
post Dec 21, 2008 - 1:39 PM
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QUOTE (97celiman @ Dec 21, 2008 - 2:32 PM) *
whats the pillowball mount? you have to get that when you get tein ss coilovers?

would that be the ss ten that does come with pillowball , do u have the ss sway bars?
post Dec 21, 2008 - 2:52 PM
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the SuperStreets dont come with them
so u have to get these for the fronts

you dont have to get them, u can use your stock mounts but they arent adjustable

i have the sway bars as well. they are a WONDERFUL upgrade


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post Dec 21, 2008 - 5:42 PM
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thanks man ... so with sway bar u have a gt model and u get know rub or noise?
post Dec 21, 2008 - 5:45 PM
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none at all. just exceptional steering response haha good luck bro thumbsup.gif


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post Dec 21, 2008 - 5:55 PM
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just looking on line for some pillowballs u have a web site they might have them on

Thanks agian
post Dec 21, 2008 - 6:15 PM
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http://www.japanparts.com/db/partslist.php...er=&volkey=

here is a whole list of parts

and for other suspension related things

http://hopupracing.com/suspension29.html


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post Dec 21, 2008 - 6:33 PM
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great dude .. one last one Is A awd tein the same as a fwd tein (will st205 tein fit in FWD gt-s)


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post Dec 21, 2008 - 7:49 PM
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nah. go for the ST202 and ST204 stuff. the ST205 parts are for the ST205's only


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post Dec 22, 2008 - 3:12 PM
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I ran a group buy on the suspension techniques sway bars a while ago, and there are two different versions, however the 1st version (the ones that rubbed) are no longer produced. So no matter where you go you'll get the newer remake.


As for coilovers, the tein ss coils are spoken highly of. Megan racing also makes a good set that also comes with pillowball mounts. A little fact I learned when researching megan coilovers for my wrx was that the part numbers are identical for apex'i coilovers- leading me to believe that they're manufactured in the same place.


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post Dec 22, 2008 - 7:08 PM
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darn. i wish i knew that before. megans are decent build quality. i wonder how well them perform on the track


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post Dec 23, 2008 - 7:56 PM
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so to sum up...
if purchasing tein ss coilovers, it is necessary to get these "pillowball mounts" to make them adjustable
where as other coilover setups include these built into the coilover (like megan)
so this is my confusion-
i thought the whole idea with coilovers was that they were adjustable, why am i having to buy extra pieces to make them(tein ss coilovers) adjustable?
how do they function w/out pball mounts? are they adjustable at all
this makes no sense...
post Dec 23, 2008 - 8:31 PM
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they would be adjustable for the height and dampening without the pillowball mounts. the mounts are so you can adjust the camber. they arent necessary. but it wouldnt be bad at all to have them

oh i forgot. lowering a car can cause the camber to be messed up, making the tires wear unevenly. so either you could re align it or get some new mounts

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post Dec 24, 2008 - 1:09 PM
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QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Dec 23, 2008 - 8:31 PM) *
they would be adjustable for the height and dampening without the pillowball mounts. the mounts are so you can adjust the camber. they arent necessary. but it wouldnt be bad at all to have them

oh i forgot. lowering a car can cause the camber to be messed up, making the tires wear unevenly. so either you could re align it or get some new mounts



So to stop wear on tires after lowering , new mounts ? ... is that the same same the putting on pillow mounts to stop wear?
post Dec 24, 2008 - 1:28 PM
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QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Dec 23, 2008 - 9:31 PM) *
they would be adjustable for the height and dampening without the pillowball mounts. the mounts are so you can adjust the camber. they arent necessary. but it wouldnt be bad at all to have them

oh i forgot. lowering a car can cause the camber to be messed up, making the tires wear unevenly. so either you could re align it or get some new mounts


ya but even with these pillowball mounts i wouldnt be adjusting the camber myself...gah i dont understand this cuz someone else had some camber adjustment kit blah blah blah for some reason suspension crap is so confusing to me makes me mad : (
post Dec 24, 2008 - 1:30 PM
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mm yea i just what to right .. so it ride wicked .. or not do it at all ,

post Dec 24, 2008 - 2:04 PM
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If you're getting coilovers just buy the pillowball mounts as well. Coilovers are sold with pillowball mounts already, so you might as well get some for the teins.


you can get a camber kit, which is just an adjustable bolt that holds your strut body to the knuckle. it isnt adjustable on-the-fly like pillowball mounts are.


you guys are making this much harder than it needs to be. if you are getting lowering springs go with a camber kit. if you are getting coilovers go with pillowball mounts.

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post Dec 24, 2008 - 2:12 PM
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thanks for the easy answer wink.gif

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