AWD Conversion Options

[Charlie97L]

ok, so i remember someone claiming to have done this AWD conversion on his 6th gen. i can't remember who though. it's a great idea, i might attempt it at some point if i just have too much money laying around.

i personally really want to see some pics of this car, the engine bay, interior, under car, etc. if this guy really has done this, i want to see it and be able to tell him how much of the s**t he is for pulling this off.

a part list, or detailed description of what was done would also help convince me.

i'm just really interested, and i want MORE OF THIS POTENTIALLY AWESOME CELICA!

bring on the pics.

charlie

[NEVERSTOP]

Charlie97L.... I am that guy.

Yes. I have done this conversion. I did it in my 94 GT. I used a 95 ST205 rearend that I got from a guy I know in Canada.. I paid around 1k for all of the parts. And I did the conversion in about 5-6 hours with the help of a few friends.

Here is how to do this conversion.

You will have to relocate the Gas tank. This takes a while and I had already done this prior to the convesions so it cut some time off of it. I also had the 3sgte with tranny installed prior to it.. I had a transmission shop lock out the rear transfer case before I did the rearend so I could drive the car and then when I did the rearend conversion we undid the welds to free up the transfercase.

the first thing you will need to do is remove your complete rear assembly.. this is axle and all susspension componenets.

Remove your gas tank... the rearend will not fit with the gastank in the stock location. I baough a Race Ready one for my trunk and that works perfect for me but you might want to explore other options.

Then you will need to move the ST205 rear assembly under the car and figure out where you are going to need to cut to make it fit... the pumpkin DOES NOT fit under the USDM Celica without modifiying it.

My 94 GT was partially prestamped for the ST205 conversion but we did have to do some custom mounting. I am not sure about other years and versions of the Celica as to weither or not they where prestamped... wouldn't think that the ST's would of been stamped or the 96+ Celicas... If you know someone that knows alot about Hydrolics have them help you! because they have a tendency to know alot about doing custom suspension.

Once the Rear assembly is in place you just have to hook up the Drive shaft and your done... there are some other small things but this is the jist of it.

As for Photos I will get have plenty of them on here soon... Don't want to give neaway until the car is completly done but the car is gettin close to being done... just waiting for a few more parts before finishing the paint and then it's time for new Intercooler and rims!

[0Re0]

QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Jan 12 2003, 12:00 AM)

Charlie97L.... I am that guy. Yes. I have done this conversion. I did it in my 94 GT. I used a 95 ST205 rearend that I got from a guy I know in Canada.. I paid around 1k for all of the parts. And I did the conversion in about 5-6 hours with the help of a few friends. Here is how to do this conversion. You will have to relocate the Gas tank. This takes a while and I had already done this prior to the convesions so it cut some time off of it. I also had the 3sgte with tranny installed prior to it.. I had a transmission shop lock out the rear transfer case before I did the rearend so I could drive the car and then when I did the rearend conversion we undid the welds to free up the transfercase. the first thing you will need to do is remove your complete rear assembly.. this is axle and all susspension componenets. Remove your gas tank... the rearend will not fit with the gastank in the stock location. I baough a Race Ready one for my trunk and that works perfect for me but you might want to explore other options. Then you will need to move the ST205 rear assembly under the car and figure out where you are going to need to cut to make it fit... the pumpkin DOES NOT fit under the USDM Celica without modifiying it. My 94 GT was partially prestamped for the ST205 conversion but we did have to do some custom mounting. I am not sure about other years and versions of the Celica as to weither or not they where prestamped... wouldn't think that the ST's would of been stamped or the 96+ Celicas... If you know someone that knows alot about Hydrolics have them help you! because they have a tendency to know alot about doing custom suspension. Once the Rear assembly is in place you just have to hook up the Drive shaft and your done... there are some other small things but this is the jist of it. As for Photos I will get have plenty of them on here soon... Don't want to give neaway until the car is completly done but the car is gettin close to being done... just waiting for a few more parts before finishing the paint and then it's time for new Intercooler and rims!

Can't wait to see it!

[0Re0]

QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Jan 12 2003, 12:00 AM)

Charlie97L.... I am that guy. Yes. I have done this conversion. I did it in my 94 GT. I used a 95 ST205 rearend that I got from a guy I know in Canada.. I paid around 1k for all of the parts. And I did the conversion in about 5-6 hours with the help of a few friends. Here is how to do this conversion. You will have to relocate the Gas tank. This takes a while and I had already done this prior to the convesions so it cut some time off of it. I also had the 3sgte with tranny installed prior to it.. I had a transmission shop lock out the rear transfer case before I did the rearend so I could drive the car and then when I did the rearend conversion we undid the welds to free up the transfercase. the first thing you will need to do is remove your complete rear assembly.. this is axle and all susspension componenets. Remove your gas tank... the rearend will not fit with the gastank in the stock location. I baough a Race Ready one for my trunk and that works perfect for me but you might want to explore other options. Then you will need to move the ST205 rear assembly under the car and figure out where you are going to need to cut to make it fit... the pumpkin DOES NOT fit under the USDM Celica without modifiying it. My 94 GT was partially prestamped for the ST205 conversion but we did have to do some custom mounting. I am not sure about other years and versions of the Celica as to weither or not they where prestamped... wouldn't think that the ST's would of been stamped or the 96+ Celicas... If you know someone that knows alot about Hydrolics have them help you! because they have a tendency to know alot about doing custom suspension. Once the Rear assembly is in place you just have to hook up the Drive shaft and your done... there are some other small things but this is the jist of it. As for Photos I will get have plenty of them on here soon... Don't want to give neaway until the car is completly done but the car is gettin close to being done... just waiting for a few more parts before finishing the paint and then it's time for new Intercooler and rims!

THE BADDEST CELICA ON THE US!

[Jussimple]

I only have two words," The Shiznit". I'm with the cult, those pics will inspire all. Hope to see them soon.

[Mynzeyes]

i'm with charlie on this one. if it was as easy as this, mike and ray and all of those people from celica.net would have already done it. i won't buy it til i see pictures of him pointing to the rear differential.

[Charlie97L]

QUOTE (Mynzeyes @ Jan 12 2003, 03:50 PM)

i'm with charlie on this one. if it was as easy as this, mike and ray and all of those people from celica.net would have already done it. i won't buy it til i see pictures of him pointing to the rear differential.

yeah ray is getting his swap done by EL Prototypes, who are the best Toyota swap guys in the country. and believe me, if he could have done an AWD conversion with them, he would have.

[Guest_Matthew_*]

i'm sure that neverstop is broke cuz he is a DJ and he works strictly on commision. And how many people have raves in the winter? Not many. I'm sure that he is gonna wait until his car is his completely done.

[rlan214]

ummmm still wont believe till i see the pics dont mean to hate here but im with charlie and mynzeyes
if there someones that's gonna be doing this conversion it'll be mike(qatar) since he got all the part at least the whole gt four clip from japan

[Mage]

Um yeah, I probably have the least technical knowledge compared to all of you, but if this is true and somewhat feasible on our cars, that would be a dream come true. Getting AWD...

[NEVERSTOP]

The main reason why a lot of people havent done this before is that either they didnt think of it or because the rearend parts are kinda hard to locate with out damage... you can get them from toysport but you will pay up the ass.. the only reason that I was able to get everything is because The guy that I got mine from has a 6th gen gt4 that hes drags and had gotten a second one for parts and didn't think that he would need them.

[95STCelica]

i'll pay you to do mine lol

[Mage]

Any pics yet?

[FallenHero]

I believe he'll post them up once all of his body work is done.

[Mage]

No offense but wouldn't the pics not even show the body anyways? If they're just of the awd parts on the car? And in any case, it seems rather odd to be so concerned about having everything 100% done before showing any pics... if he can invest in making sideskirts and whatnot, showing sketches instead of the final product, why would it be different than showing the mere car to people on a messageboard? It's not like we're judges or anything, our opinions of his ride shouldn't matter. I wouldn't care if he had a bodykit made of wood, and I doubt anyone else would either, as long as there -were- pics that showed the working awd parts on the car. The awd conversion seems overly-simplistic, the chassis alone presenting a huge problem.

[Cragspider]

Ok Neverstop, How hard it would be for you to go to the shop where your car is and take some pics of the conversion fo us? If you say that you have done this then you should have pics to prove it. So Im calling you out, PRODUCE SOME PICS OF IT, then it wil be settled.
Bryan

[Guest_Jason_*]

Honestly, if someone wants to get pictures taken, its very easy. I don't own a webcam or digicam, and I can get pics whenever I need them. Either through friends or through places like kinko's or other imaging stores. I'm not telling you to get them, i'm just suggesting. I could careless if you get pictures, but this topic is getting kind of annoying already. Kinko's should be able to put pictures on a hard disk for 15c a picture, and if you can't afford that, then you don't have an AWD Conversion.

This post has been edited by Jason: Feb 2, 2003 - 9:45 PM

[NEVERSTOP]

as for pics like I said before...not until its all done - plain and simple.

As for locating parts I went and looked at a 5th gen alltrac today at a local car lot. the rear end looks like its almost identical to the 6th gen one. and it comes with the rear mounted gas tank.

It would be worth the money to but a 90-93 all trac for 2.5-4 grand and take the 3sgte,tranny, driveshaft, rearend, etc out of it and transplant it into your 6th gen.

[boosted_K2]

damn seems like ive started something here, everyone buggin neverstop lol, im stayin outa it now... i have a lil more faith lol...

[boosted_K2]

mikes in the process... well will be very soon when the weather up here in MI clears up.

and as for kuya hes doing something and being very sneaky about it... he disclosed me very little info but apparently it will be a beast, either AWD or RWD and if i remember correctly he quoted me a # around 800 HP from the 3sgte...