 TurboCharger project from scrap for Do-IT-Yourself, Turbocharging your car from parts gather |
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new downpipe and up pipe, larger BOV, 3+" exhaust, new ECU, complete fuel managment(injectors, pressure regulator, pump, etc) uh...cams, pistons, internals in general, spray the engine w/ n2o to cure turbo lag...dude, the options are endless w/ that engine...plenty of places to look...you should know this.
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Jan 18, 2003 - 12:39 PM
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Tis is all very good information, I really appreciate the links
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Jan 18, 2003 - 3:35 PM
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The veil side will do.
What is the size of the muffler? Thanks jayi12-15psi I have more links but my main interest now is to generate more wanna bees for more info. The best place you can check for jun parts are at http://www.junauto.co.jp/products/index.html?en info@junauto.co.jp PHONE 81-3-3920-4165 FACSIMILE 81-3-3594-2689 Your setup sounds good. But where are you right now? is the car down? Have you gone into the engine yet? Are you willing to spend money to go the right way without looking back or do you want a rush job with complications is the future igotta5S-FEturbo? Have you also look at the problems with making 500HP at the flywheel or tire? Read my original or first post again and see what you need and then come back and ask away. Also, try to see if you can get a veilside, HKS, Greddy, Jun turbo manifold for your 3rd generation 3SGTE. That will lessen your worries on putting together one unless you can weld some custom pieces of angular pipes together. If your exhaust is 3inches in size, then you should upgrade your piping from the header to 2.5 - 3.0" for better flow. You also have a pretty big turbo there. Expect some lag to some point. This can be reduce with a complete: JUN SPROCKET (1033M-T702) JUN CAMSHAFT KIT (1033M-T005) JUN STROKER KIT (1029M-T003) Again read my posts for further details. Looking forward to your update on my gquestions above. P.S. Finishing touches for a 3SGE + Turbo = 3SGTE 
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Jan 18, 2003 - 5:46 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 27, '02 From Barbados Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
UPDATE
1999 -2004 Toyota Celica Project The aim of this project is to carry the 1999 Toyota Celica ST202 SIII Hatchback to a higher level. To achieve this, major modifications of the chassis, engine and electronics will be undertaken. PARTS Engine VeilSide Titanium Muffler Custom 3” downpipe MoTec M800 MoTec CDI/8 Capacitor Discharge Ignition Nology HotWires HKS Iridium Spark Plugs HKS GT3037S/T04R Turbo HKS Head Gasket (2301-RT035) (Thickness 1.6mm) (Bore 87.5mm) HKS Turbo Header HKS GT II Wastegate (14005-AK001) HKS Racing Blowoff Valve Type II (1421-RA001) Blitz Intake HKS Intercooler HKS / RC Engineering 550cc Injectors on Primary + 500cc Injectors on secondary HKS Fuel System upgrades TRD FPR (Fuel Pressure Regulator #00643-23280-000) JUN GT Surge Tank (2015M-T001) JUN SPROCKET (1033M-T702) OR HKS Cam Gear (2204-RT001) JUN CAMSHAFT KIT (1033M-T005) JUN STROKER KIT (1029M-T003) JUN Racing Valve Guide (1008M-T002) Fearra Valves Toda Racing Lightened Flywheel HKS GD Clutch Pro Multi-Plate Clutch (2604-RT003 [Twin Plate]) ?? Need to be verify with HKS for GTFOUR models. Checkout http://www.fensport.co.uk/partsfiles/st205clutch.htm for clutch kit Kaaz LSD 2way (DAT2010) ?? Needs to be verify with KAAZ for GTFOUR models since this maybe the LSD for the Rear Differential. Suspension Tein Type HA Damper Suspension w/ Camber Plate TRD Strut Tower brace (00602-53607-006) C-ONE Strut Tower brace (FT5360-ST200) TRD Rear stabilising brace TRD Anti-Roll Bars JIC Type 1 Lower Frame Brace (ST202LAB1) Brembo/Wilwood Brakes kit Bridgestone Potenza S03/RE-01/ Bridgestone Potenza 540S/Yokohama Advan Neova/Yokohama Advan A048/Toyo Proxes RA1 Exterior Racing Hart M35 Rims Veilside Front Bumper VeilSide Side Skirts Carcept Rear Bumper VeilSide Rear Wing Interior Blitz DC & BL Series Guages Greddy Air/Fuel Gauge Kit w/ Heated 02 Sensor (16000811) http://www.turboimports.com/gredairgaugk.html Blitz TURBO TIMER- DTT DC II Sparco Seats Momo Steering Wheel Links Page http://www.northwestern.toyota.co.nz http://www.alltrac.net/tuning/engine.html http://www.hksusa.com By phone: (310) 491 3300 - M thru F 8am-5pm PST By mail: HKS USA -13401 S. Main Street -Los Angeles, CA 90061 http://www.apexi.com A'PEX Integration, Inc. 330 W. Taft Orange, CA 92865 (714) 685-5700 Phone (714) 685-5701 Fax Business Hours Monday - Friday 9:00a.m. - 6:00p.m. PST http://www.motec.com West Coast 5355 Industrial Drive Huntington Beach, CA 92649 Tel: (714) 897-6804 Fax: (714) 897-8782 info@motec.com East Coast 169-2 Gasoline Alley Mooresville, NC 28117 Tel: (704) 799-3800 Fax: (704) 799-3874 Jay Caldwell jay@motec.com http://electromotive-inc.com 9131 Centreville Road Manassas, Virginia 20110 Phone: 703 331-0100 Fax: 703 331-0161 Hours: Monday to Friday 9:00am to 5:00pm Eastern Time http://www.autronic.com Phone International (61) 7 4051 6672 Fax International (61) 7 4051 3683 Phone 07 4051 6672 Fax 07 4051 3683 Email info@autronic.com http://www.junusa.com http://www.junauto.co.jp/index-e.html info@junauto.co.jp PHONE 81-3-3920-4165 FACSIMILE 81-3-3594-2689 http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/u...lp=ja_en&tt=url http://www.potenza.jp http://www.bridgestone.com http://www.yokohamatire.com 1-800-722-9888Yokohama Tire Corporation 601 S. 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Phone (949)380-7556 Fax (949)380-7256 http://www.rceng.com 1728 Border Ave Torrance, CA. 90501 Phone (310) 320-2277 Fax (310) 782-1346 http://www.racinghart.com Dazz Motorsport 5121 Commerce Drive Baldwin Park, CA 91706-1451 Telephone: (626) 962-0033 Fax: (626) 962-3330 http://www.ozwheels.com O.Z America Inc. 7500 NW 25th St. Unit # A4 Miami, FL 33122 ph 305.471.0042 fax 305.471.7552 info@ozwheels.com For the nearest O.Z racing distributor dial 1.888.OZracing (697.2246) http://www.c-one.co.jp http://www.tein.com TEIN U.S.A.,inc. 7631 Somerset Blvd Paramount CA 90723 PHONE:1-562-633-7387 FAX:1-562-633-7291 http://www.eibach.com http://www.ground-control.com (530) 677-8600 http://www.greddy.com info@greddy.com http://www.cartech.net http://www.fensport.co.uk FENSPORT 8 DOCK ROAD CHATTERIS CAMBS PE16 6RE ENGLAND Tel: +44 (0) 1354 696968 or +44 (0) 7000 336776 FAX: +44 (0) 1354 696973 SALES@fensport.co.uk http://www.gtechpro.com Tesla Electronics 1749 14th Street Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310) 452-0030 support@gtechpro.com http://www.jarcoinc.com/ CANTON, GEORGIA 194 GATEWAY DRIVE CANTON, GEORGIA 30115 Tel: 770.479.4942 Fax: 770.479.4948 Operator: James Stettler info@jarcoinc.com parts@jarcoinc.com halfcuts@jarcoinc.com specials@jarcoinc.com TATEBAYASHI, JAPAN 1090-2 MUJINAZKI, ORA MACHI, ORA GUN GUNMA-KEN 370-0613, JAPAN infojapan@jarcoinc.com partsjapan@jarcoinc.com halfcutsjapan@jarcoinc.com specialsjapan@jarcoinc.com http://www.aprperformance.com APR Performance. Inc 15709 Arrow Highway Suite # 6 Irwindale, CA 91706 Phone: (626) 480-0090 Fax: (626) 480-0030 sales@aprperformance.com http://www.jspamerica.com sales@jspamerica.com info@jspamerica.com webmaster@jspamerica.com To Order 1-716-871-1592 USA Head Office JSP America Inc. 255 Cooper Ave., Suite 100 Tonawanda NY 14150-6641 Tel: (716) 871-1592 Fax: (716) 871-0239 Canada J.S. Parker International 4400 Montrose Rd., Units 2 & 3 Niagara Falls, Ont. L2H 1K2 Tel: (905) 353-1356 Fax: (905) 358-5180 This post has been edited by west_minist: Jun 12, 2003 - 7:07 AM |
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Jan 18, 2003 - 6:13 PM
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I am definitely not going to rush into this. I have had my 5S-FE out for a week now and the only new thing that I have intstalled is the C-One Coilover all around. Also the gt-4 front and rear axles, and brake assemblies. I am going to replace all the hoses, gaskets, brackets, etc, before I put the engine in. Also I would like to replace the cams, lifters, rods, pistons, head gasket, valve springs, and polish the cylinder walls themselves. That will be next week. Also do you have a part # for the HKS turbo manifold. And how would I reduce lag? Just by adding these parts: JUN SPROCKET (1033M-T702)
JUN CAMSHAFT KIT (1033M-T005) JUN STROKER KIT (1029M-T003) That probably wouldn't reduce it all but it would help a lot right? This post has been edited by igotta5S-FEturbo: Jan 18, 2003 - 6:15 PM |
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Jan 18, 2003 - 11:26 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
lol that would be soooo worth it!!! 
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Jan 18, 2003 - 11:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 27, '02 From Barbados Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Those mods will allow more air to flow into the big turbo. You will move from a 2.0l to 2.2l engine with 264+ degree cams allowing more air into the cyclinder, allowing the engine to breath better. You should stay below 272 degree cams for streetability. In all, your engine will be moving more air, more energy. >>> better turbo spool up. What is your application? Street, Street/race, little street/alot of Race? Please check out JUN for the kits. Kits provides:- JUN STROKER KIT (1029M-T003) 87.0x92.0mm contains: http://www.junauto.co.jp/products/cylinder...t/index.html?en FULL COUNTER CRANKSHAFT 1 JUN'S SUPER PISTON KIT 1 SET JUN'S SUPER CONNECTING RODS 1 SET JUN CAMSHAFT KIT (1033M-T005) contains: http://www.junauto.co.jp/products/cylinder...t/index.html?en STAGE 2 CAMSHAFT 1 SET RACING VALVE SPRING 1 SET TITANIUM VALVE RETAINER 1 SET JUN Racing Valve Guide (1008M-T002) All that you have to worry about is the vavles which can be provided by Fearra Do a search on a TRD turbo manifold for the 3sgte. Your manifold outlet might change depending on the turbo exhaust housing intake. Also, please recheck my post below with part #'s updates for some important stuff This post has been edited by west_minist: Jun 12, 2003 - 7:05 AM |
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my application is a lot of street a little race, BUT I hate it when the souped up firebirds and camaros and vettes around here pass me on the interstate when I go to work and even with the turbo I get beaten. So I need something that will anialate all. Civics and integras are no problem now but I gotta beat the V8. I checked out the JUN website and placed an order for the camshaft stage 2 kit. What are those things that are in the option thing? Oh, and I almost forgot what is the best clutch that I should get? ACT or centerforce? Or neither. West minst you are a pretty smart guy and thanks for all of your help.
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Jan 19, 2003 - 12:07 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 27, '02 From Barbados Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Heres go.
Trek sits behind his wheel waiting for it to all happen. He peers at the line in the distance, what a quater! He settled into the seat as his hands grips the wheel while his eye focus on the treeek faced before him. His heart rotates around the confine limits of its quarters. His chest rises as he tunnelled his vision sets to the green lanterns. With a rush, his A/F when rich! His boost at 2. Without warning, he shifts to 2nd. His eyes wide open; not wanting to blink 100feet out of the locks, he see nothing as a flame shootup. High up. All around him is fire as he is stuck deep into his seat with no back. A light flashing before him. Beep, beeep, beeeep, beeeeeeep 4bar!!  
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Jan 19, 2003 - 10:56 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 27, '02 From Barbados Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Matt? you must read everything. Are you changing your computer or are you going piggy back? If piggy back, you will need the HKS VPC to change to speed density since you maybe using 272 degree cams. I think that it is better to go with a motec 48 or a Autronic SM2. Check my link paths on this page and review both products. It is better to go with them than with all the piggy backs which will cost the same money, but hard to use since you have more than one device to change parameters. All parameters can be control with these computers via a laptop under the seat. The option is for the cam gear. You have either the option to get the JUN or HKS cam gears or sprockets as they are named. I like the HKS cam sprocket over JUN, but JUN looks lighter. The kit you order contains which cams? 264 or 272 degree cams? Will you order Stroker kit and the Valve guide kit? You have a number of choices for the clutch. Check my mod list posted before. You should have a list of all what you need, part numbers, where you going to by them and so on. TRD, Toda Racing, HKS, JUN, ACT, Centerforce can be use for your clutch. Just chose one on quality and price. But you have to verify each manufacture if there have a clutch for the Celica GTFour. It maybe possible that a MR2 clutch can fit the GTfour but I do not know since one the MR2 is RWD while the GTFOUR is AWD. Also, the 90-94 GTFOUR transmission might be the same. Check this out with NEVERSTOP or any other person. TRD should definately have one. Checkout http://www.fensport.co.uk/partsfiles/st205clutch.htm for clutch kit Are you using a carbon fibre drive shaft for the rear axle? This post has been edited by west_minist: Jun 12, 2003 - 7:07 AM |
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Jan 19, 2003 - 12:01 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From North Bethesda, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i think that this topic should be renamed. i had the impression upon entering it that it was going to be a discussion of 7afte or 5sfte, not building up a 3sgte.
also, i fail to see how an Apexi rev/speed meter (among other things) are a required part for a turbo project. that doesn't do anything other than display status information. sorry, i'm not attacking anyone, i just don't see how a laundry list of 3sgte parts is going to help anyone get together a "Do-IT-Youself" turbo project. -------------------- 1994 Lexus ES300
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Jan 19, 2003 - 12:23 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 27, '02 From Barbados Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The first pag is strictly for any vehicle since it have some major parts added for turbocharging any vehicle. If you have continue to read the pages, you would see that it is not for the faint hearted unless you took your car to a shop. I am amaze each time when someone who have ideas about turbocharging their ride do not know the reason why. All that you hear is "do I really need that", "what is that for", "why" Come on people. This is not to affend anyone. It is easier to find GT & ST parts than for the 3SGTE parts. eg, clutch and so forth. One last question for you Charlie97L, are you one of those person who does things without knowing what the result would be? In other words, just do? it will be nice to here your input. |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Franklin/Nashville, TN Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
i wouldn't call charlie out...he knows his shxt west...i wouldn't fxck w/ him...just my .02cents. i talk to him on AIM all the time, and he's who i go to for most questions when there's somethin complicated i can't figure out. he was in the process of building a 7agte, and yes, he knew why and what to do...so think before you call some people out. -John- -------------------- AIM==Mynzeyes
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Jan 19, 2003 - 2:16 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From North Bethesda, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
no, not at all, i alwasy exhaustively research every mod i do to my car before attempting it. i totally respect the work you are doing and the information you are giving, and i understand your points about the parts, they are all very good ones and you obviously know what you are talking about. my point was that not everyone needs a 700 HP celica... it IS very tempting, and a hell of a project, but I think that most people looking for a turbo project just want some more oomph. i mean, look at me, I just want like 200 ish HP... that's all, I want to continue to drive my celica every day, i'm never going to race it. i just want it to be a little sportier, and be able to hang with GT-Ss, GS-Rs, etc. and really back up the sporty look we have on our cars. i wasn't dismissing your post in any way, i just said that the title was misleading, and after further reading your stuff, i realized (DOH!) that you weren't implying the Rev/Speed meter and other stuff was necessary, just outlining all the available options for your car... so i most definitely concede that point.  so basically, my point is, i was just saying the subject heading was a tad misleading... it's totally fine, i was just making an observation. and i guess what i would really like is a good simple list of what the bare minimum is to turbo your car. i know many people would like this info, and i'm probably going to start a new topic, and i would love for you to contribute to that. also, i have to say, i really enjoy the debates that go on over here on 6gc.net ... celica.net has lost some of that good discussion somewhere.
This post has been edited by Charlie97L: Jan 19, 2003 - 2:19 PM -------------------- 1994 Lexus ES300
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Jan 19, 2003 - 3:07 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 27, '02 From Barbados Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Understand.
My aim wasn't to concentrate on the 3sgte by who ever comes, I answer. As you can see, they is no one asking questions about the 5sfe or any other engine. I agree on the 700HP after a request, but my first post tops it al for a simple setup. I was ask for 500+ and I supplied info to that request. No prob. I would love to contribute to your post. just drop me a person mail and I will see what I can add to it. How is you 4AFTE going? Any oil temperature or leaking problems? how is the a/f going? This post has been edited by west_minist: Mar 9, 2003 - 8:24 PM |
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Jan 19, 2003 - 3:23 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 27, '02 From Barbados Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Charlie! Please do not forget that the celica carries other engines beside the 7A & 5S. Also, from my opinion here, alot of guys do not even know what part to get or parts they need. You maybe right on the subject. I believe a detail description is need now on setting up the stuff on the car. The name is already there. Do you think we should start a write up now on how to do it? There are so many 3SGTE post on the site. This post has been edited by west_minist: Jan 19, 2003 - 3:27 PM |
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Jan 19, 2003 - 4:35 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From North Bethesda, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
actually, right now, i'm workin on a 7afte, turbocharging the ST engine in my 97. i decided to wait on a swap because my current engine only has 68K on it. so, i'm going to start on this as soon as i can get the $$ together, and i'm going to see what i can do about doing a writeup on it. i don't anticipate any leakage problems with the turbo setup. i am planning on getting a SAFC and setting back my timing 5 degrees to help with the a/f ratios.... so we'll see how that goes. i'm going to start the thread tomorrow, and anyone who has any ideas should definitely check it out.
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1989 Supra Turbo 1990 RHD ST185RC - JDM Spec |
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Jan 19, 2003 - 4:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 27, '02 From Barbados Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
What you you thread be?
Turbocharging a 7AFE? I think we should sub topic on this present thread insstead of creating a new one. You write up can be the mail topic while all of page 1 & 2 can be a sub topic. What do you think. You see, I can say what to do, but to what level. eg. how to make a turbo manifold from scratch or just put together a manifold, allow it to have some room without sharp bends? Look forward to your response. |
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