WTB: 1994 Toyota Celica ST 7A-FE engine Options

[mgnt232]

Looking for a 1994 Toyota Celica ST Engine M/T. Needs to have low miles on it and in good condition. My car has a 1.8 liter 7A-FE engine, and is starting to have too many miles on it.

I am looking to spend about $1,500, for a stock engine with low miles. Price can be flexible obviously if engine is brand new or if it has aftermarket parts on it (must run and have low miles). Please contact me on this website or email at -Mgnt232@hotmail.com- with any questions or offers. thanks- I live in the Albany, NY area.

[white97]

Looking for a 1994 Toyota Celica ST Engine M/T. Needs to have low miles on it and in good condition. My car has a 1.8 liter 7A-FE engine, and is starting to have too many miles on it.

I am looking to spend about $1,500, for a stock engine with low miles. Price can be flexible obviously if engine is brand new or if it has aftermarket parts on it (must run and have low miles). Please contact me on this website or email at -Mgnt232@hotmail.com- with any questions or offers. thanks- I live in the Albany, NY area.

i got one you could get for cheap only problem is i dunno whats wrong with the valves and rods were messed up.

[InsaneCEL6th]

why a 7afe?

upgrade to 3sgte!!!

or either 3sfe, 3sge, 5sfe

[mgnt232]

why a 7afe?

upgrade to 3sgte!!!

or either 3sfe, 3sge, 5sfe

well honestly a 7afe because i didnt know if any other engine would just plop in there. would the 3sgte need any special adjustments or conversion kits or anything like that? how much are they and how are they better, as you can see i dont know much besides i like my car lol. so give me all the info you can thanks.

[Cutrara]

get a GT with a 5sfe and its easier to swap a 3sgte in.

[richee3]

Any of the S motors (3SGTE, 3SGE, 5SFE) would be hard to swap into your car. They have different motor mounts. Not impossible, just more difficult than it needs to be. You would be better to swap a 4AGE into your car, since it uses the same motor mounts. You can pick those up pretty cheap. I have seen a 4AGE silvertop on tigerjapanese.com for $400. But if you decide to not deal with the hassle involved with that, I have a 7AFE. I doubt if it's what you are looking for, since it needs a couple of things (distributor, alternator, AC compressor- all of which you have on your 7A already.) It's got 130,000 miles on it, but ran perfectly when I pulled it from the car. The only thing is, you have to come pick it up. I'm not willing to ship it. But if you come pick it up, you can have it for free. I need the garage space back.

[GriffGirl]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-TOYOTA-...sQ5fAccessories

[white97]

go with a 4age its cheaper easier and the increase in power will be nice if youve never had a tubro car. you can get the whole swap from japanstarmotors for around 900.

[mgnt232]

Any of the S motors (3SGTE, 3SGE, 5SFE) would be hard to swap into your car. They have different motor mounts. Not impossible, just more difficult than it needs to be. You would be better to swap a 4AGE into your car, since it uses the same motor mounts. You can pick those up pretty cheap. I have seen a 4AGE silvertop on tigerjapanese.com for $400. But if you decide to not deal with the hassle involved with that, I have a 7AFE. I doubt if it's what you are looking for, since it needs a couple of things (distributor, alternator, AC compressor- all of which you have on your 7A already.) It's got 130,000 miles on it, but ran perfectly when I pulled it from the car. The only thing is, you have to come pick it up. I'm not willing to ship it. But if you come pick it up, you can have it for free. I need the garage space back.

i would like your engine but maybe the help you could give me?lol.. My car is burning oil and thats why i want a new engine. so do you know anywhere where i could get a 4AGE, im not sure what the silver top thing is your talking about? im new with working on cars and knowing alot. thanks if you know any thing that could help=]

go with a 4age its cheaper easier and the increase in power will be nice if youve never had a tubro car. you can get the whole swap from japanstarmotors for around 900.

japanstarmotors.com? is like a terrible search engine thing, could you send me a link for what ur talking about? thanks

[white97]

well i had the same problem with my 7a plus the valves were really bad. the 4age is a dual cam motor out of the corrollas in japan. the silvertop and blacktop were the last two kind they came out with. they swap right into your car without to much hassle or custom fab work. so i got the whole 4a swap from japanstarmotors.com for like 900 bucks no shipping. the swap isnt that bad you just need to pull the old one, drop the new one in then do the wiring for it. im not gonna lie it sucked dick so i just let Dr. Tweak do it cause he's been doing it since Jesus was around so he knows a thing or too haha. but yeah man if youve never had a turbo car then the upgrade from 7a to 4a will be great i mean i was in the same boat as you not knowing much about working on motors but once you get into its really fun. if you want any more help just pm or search the forums.

[Creeps228]

io have some 7a parts, just let me know if you parts...

[pittfirefighter]

well if you are still interested in a month or so... i will have a full 7a-fe.... engine, tranny... the whole deal... all the accessories too... the block and head will be rebuilt so like brand new... all new parts... its coming out of a swapped car so i could let it go for cheap... let me know if you are interested... burning oil is typical on a 7afe... all of them do it... it usually happen upwards of 100k... toyota techs say 1 quart every oil change is allowed

[garin]

go 4a-ge. or 4a-gze. sweet motors. that is a fun engine to have, or so i hear.

[richee3]

The 4AGE really is the way to go, but I hear you when you say you are on a budget. That isn't a really expensive motor as far as swaps go, but it's going to be a bit more than simply replacing your 7AFE with another 7A. The silvertop is just a variation of the 4AGE, and it refers to the valve cover they put on the motor. The silvertop literally has a silver top. The blacktop literally has a black top.

http://www.tigerjapanese.com/index.php?pag...1&Itemid=26

http://www.tigerjapanese.com/index.php?pag...t&Itemid=26

The first link is for a silvertop, the second is for a blacktop. I'm probably mistaken because I am not very familiar with the 4A motors, but I believe the blacktop is more powerful than the silvertop??? Somebody please feel free to correct me.

[mgnt232]

well if you are still interested in a month or so... i will have a full 7a-fe.... engine, tranny... the whole deal... all the accessories too... the block and head will be rebuilt so like brand new... all new parts... its coming out of a swapped car so i could let it go for cheap... let me know if you are interested... burning oil is typical on a 7afe... all of them do it... it usually happen upwards of 100k... toyota techs say 1 quart every oil change is allowed

yeah i burn up about 2 quarts a week lol and i dont drive all that much, alot...
so how much you looking to sell for? and where do you live because i dont really want shipping to be an issue so if you live close id b glad to do pick up, thanks- get back to me

[mgnt232]

The 4AGE really is the way to go, but I hear you when you say you are on a budget. That isn't a really expensive motor as far as swaps go, but it's going to be a bit more than simply replacing your 7AFE with another 7A. The silvertop is just a variation of the 4AGE, and it refers to the valve cover they put on the motor. The silvertop literally has a silver top. The blacktop literally has a black top.

http://www.tigerjapanese.com/index.php?pag...1&Itemid=26

http://www.tigerjapanese.com/index.php?pag...t&Itemid=26

The first link is for a silvertop, the second is for a blacktop. I'm probably mistaken because I am not very familiar with the 4A motors, but I believe the blacktop is more powerful than the silvertop??? Somebody please feel free to correct me.

thanks man for all the info, im just wondering why the motor is only 450? i could get more scrapping a non working one ate junk yard? i just dont get how it can be "quality" for only 400+.

[mgnt232]

well i had the same problem with my 7a plus the valves were really bad. the 4age is a dual cam motor out of the corrollas in japan. the silvertop and blacktop were the last two kind they came out with. they swap right into your car without to much hassle or custom fab work. so i got the whole 4a swap from japanstarmotors.com for like 900 bucks no shipping. the swap isnt that bad you just need to pull the old one, drop the new one in then do the wiring for it. im not gonna lie it sucked dick so i just let Dr. Tweak do it cause he's been doing it since Jesus was around so he knows a thing or too haha. but yeah man if youve never had a turbo car then the upgrade from 7a to 4a will be great i mean i was in the same boat as you not knowing much about working on motors but once you get into its really fun. if you want any more help just pm or search the forums.

not sure what dr. tweak is? but any how, thanks for the info. and when you say re-wire what exactly do you mean? does the new engine come with a harness? or an ecu? but if its not to hard from what your saying i am really considering this site to buy mine off. just pull mine out, and drop the new 4a i, using the same engine mount bolts. but this will all work, what happens to the alt. and water pump? and all those things do i have to buy all new or are they with it, sorry its alot of questions but if you could do your best in answering it would be much appreciated .

[pittfirefighter]

the extras are hit or miss... some come with oil and water pumps... some don't... i would recommend buying new ones anyways just to be safe... not sure if any of the parts swap over... it comes with a harness and an ecu but they are not from a celica so you would have to rewire it to get it to work right.... dr tweak is a member here who is a pro at the wiring... has done more than i can imagine... Phoenixtuning is his site... i could deliver my 7a in about a month... it would fall within your budget including delivery

This post has been edited by pittfirefighter: Mar 27, 2009 - 2:08 AM

[mgnt232]

the extras are hit or miss... some come with oil and water pumps... some don't... i would recommend buying new ones anyways just to be safe... not sure if any of the parts swap over... it comes with a harness and an ecu but they are not from a celica so you would have to rewire it to get it to work right.... dr tweak is a member here who is a pro at the wiring... has done more than i can imagine... Phoenixtuning is his site... i could deliver my 7a in about a month... it would fall within your budget including delivery

what exactly do you mean by the "re-wiring" do you mean a severe re-wiring or just the wiring harness conversion that the place you recommended does?

[pittfirefighter]

its a wiring harness conversion... dr tweak does it through the mail... you send him the harness... he does it... he sends it back.. it might be repinning... it might be lengthening the wires... i am not too sure what is involved with a 4a swap... you would have to talk to him