ST205 Brakes on a ST, how ? who ? how much ? Options

[Culpable04]

I'm glad you pointed out the PMs, so that means they can be publicly posted here right ?

Before a car entusiast I'm a business man, everyone who knows me personally knows that, do you think me keeping this a private info is bad business ? then tell that to any company, go call mobil one and ask for their oil formula so you can mix it at home, or make your own coca cola too. I did all this with the intent of sharing the info, but the cost got too high as you'll find out if you do a proper research and not just slap whatever the internet says would work.

you asked me for the specs of my rotors so you could get " BETTER ONES " let me ask you something, did you ever asked me what kind of rotors I'm using ? how can you get better ones wihtout a point of reference of how bad mines are ? you want to do the re-drilling at home and you are calling my rotors cheap and unreliable ? did I think about me being liable for this ? yes, anyone who comes to the chat roon knows for how long I've been working on this, researching testing, because people I care for will be using this set-up, people who believe on my work will be buying these, and as it's state clearly you're not on that list.

do you know that if I give the information to everyone for free, and they get into an accidient due to this modification, I am also liable ? There is a reason why companies charge for R&D, but since I'm just a nobody, I should do all the research post the info for free to everyone and then get sued for it too. that would make me a cool person.

do I have a great personality? well, it depends who you ask, if you ask someone who tries to use me or make a fool of myself, the answer will be no.

I have had a registered business with the state of NJ for 3 years now, the only thing you know about me is whatever I decide is worthless enough to post for the worldwide world. I don't post my personal life here, I don't care for people to congratulate me for a new shiney little bolt on my car, so whatever comment you feel you need to make about how I'm not nice to you, do it.

give that Benz rotor a try, post back your results, so people can do stuff your way and not mine.

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Fastbird: I've worked in sales for over ten years and I have NEVER heard of a company willing to publish it's specs to the point that a customer had the alternative to make a duplicate himself. Furthermore, I've been the Engineering Manager of a major corporation for just as long and it is one of my duties to ensure that the drawings given out to customers do NOT contain enough information for them to make a duplicate or to develope their own version of our products.
For you to call Culpable out on this and then to use that as your reasoning is not only 100% incorrect - it's just plain wrong to do so on a thread he made with the purpose of developing his own performance products.

[Fastbird]

I wasn't asking for absolute specs. All I wanted to know was What car the rotor came off of, and further down the line What company the rotor was made by and who or what kind of shop was doing the drilling. Is that too much to ask??? When someone is just pulling pieces off the shelf until the find the right one, then end person here still gets left without knowing how to go about finding a new piece. They've got no background on the product or company, ect.

Did I ever ask for full specs like offset, thickness, center bore size, rotor hat size, ect??? I don't think so. All I asked was for some simple generic information. I like a lot of other enthusiasts have my own preferential parts to use also, hence my finding something better comment. NOWHERE did I say that your rotors were generic, cheap, or unreliable.

As for your "you'll find out the cost involved" comment, it's not rocket science. With a mic, some simple measurements, and some patient searching figuring out what will and won't work isn't that involved. Sure it may take a couple of trial and error rotors, but you seem to either have taken a shotgun approach to finding the right parts or you seem to be inflating what your actual research investment was.

Let me ask you this: The rotors that you're selling.......is there a warranty? Who warranties the rotor? Does it have to go back to you if there's a problem? Or is the customer going to get stiffed if something happens at the end of a warranty period and there's a justified claim?

Death, I called Culp out because of his attitude. I was looking at options and I got the "no that is too small to work" comment about one and he directly contradicted himself. His attitude is what got me doing this. I'm ont the only one who see's it. I think Culp needs to remember that no one pays for advertising or sponsoring on this forum and for him to take this blantant stance in order to make money is pretty shady. I never said he needs to give out all the specs.....actually here's what I sent him in regards to specs:

You may be curious why I am doing all of this researching? It's because I refuse to put parts on my car that I don't know what they're for or where I can immediately get a replacement. I simply won't take an unknown part, especially something as important as a braking component, and just slap it on. I need to know what it was originally intended for, what model it was produced for, ect. I'm also doing this because I'm looking at doing a couple of different configurations ont he caliper mounting (both front and back of knuckle, as well as bracket relocated.

Culp fails to mention that I've already talked about using a custom made caliper bracket to be able to use a larger rotor, but that's besides the point. The biggest thing in that quote is that I made it plain and clear that I'm asking these "specs" (what car, ect) because I WAS intending to purchase the rotors off of him. I'm a technical guy, so slapping on a part isn't enough for me. But being discreet to the point of shady when it comes to stuff like this isn't how to get it done either.

[Culpable04]

Ok, I've got a bead on two sets of front calipers right now. Good news is that they're cheap enough that I am probably going to buy both and flip the one set.

The rotors that you're using, are they slotted or anything??? I'd really like to know what they're off of to see if I could snag a higher quality piece like a Baer Eradispeed or a EBC rotor.

Are there larger rotors that you've tried that worked but had to be shaved down? Reason I ask is because I don't mind bracketing out the caliper, I've got the 18's so the more heat dissipating rotor I can get in there the better.

Thanks a ton dude.

Sean

you're gonna flip the calipers ? why ? to make money ? no way ? not you ? I know you are kidding.


since it was already specify that the rotor only needs to be re-drilled with the correct bolt pattern and you KNOW that, and so everyone else, wouldn't telling you which rotor it is, imply that you could do this on your own, using my information for it ? and everyone who bought a set of rotors ( not for sell anymore ) would have gotten all the needed info to get replacements from somewhere else if they wanted to or in case I fall dead or crashed due to brake failure.

for yours to have a higher quality don't you need a measuring point of the quality of mines so you can raise the bar ? you just assumed, didn't you ? or you have insight info on that too ?

I'm glad this gave you something to do at home, now go and spend the money poor guys like me are crying for, and you have extra laying around, just to prove my point.

you never had the intent of buying my rotors, and trust me, after seeing how you behave and disrespect anything is not done for / by you, there is not enough money in this world for me to sell them to you. you said you are a technical guy, where is the technique here ? get my specs ? and use them to buy some fancy discs with a lot of holes in it to show off pretty pictures online ? hmmmm there is a word for that type of people on the dictionary and it's not technical.

I WILL NOT SELL any rotors, unlike you, I don't NEED this money, but I guess you also knew that, because you already have a full opinion of my personality and I'm sure you would not have drawn that out of internet alone, like internet knights and keyboard warriors do.

There are more than 5 guides online that show you how to do this, yes, just use google and see how that goes, will it be reliable ? sure, google says so.
here some info you didn't post or didn't know

the benz rotor they used on the 7th gen is NOT available in the states, and in case you were to find one, you have to trim down a few mm of the caliper for it to align with the rotor, so let's see, the rotor has to be re-drilled, the caliper needs to be modified, and not available in the US, those were the same issues with using a ST205 rotor but we didn't have to re-drill them, so what was accomplished there ? NOTHING

there is another member here who here a write up on this, excellent write up, what's the issue with it ? he used ST205 rotors, NOT available in US and expensive to buy / ship from overseas. I'm a very lucky guy, I sat down, though about it for a second and said " hey let's try this X rotor " and it worked perfectly, so I must be the luckiest guy on earth, I mean, as many rotors that there are out there, and I just got the right one.


Mod please lock this, let's all wait patiently for Fastbird to find rotors that work, I'm sure he'll find one, in the end, just ask yourself, was it worthy ?
with the money you'll spend on this alone, you can just buy a Big brake kit meant for the 7th gen for ~ 800 and be done with it and have money left, but is a personal matter to you now, so just go ahead and prove yourself and the world that you can do it, and we will all stand and applause your success.

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