What Wheel Spacer Size for Flush Fit Options

[Harold_Fastwaker]

I am trying to flush my "new" set of wheels on my celica. I have a list of measurements I just took and I am unsure if I did this right or not. I am also trying to figure out what tires I need but figure I will wait till I have spacers in to test out how the fitment will be. Then I will figure out what tire to wrap it with.


I have seen a celica running 19x8 +35 on the front and 19x9.5 +35 on the back with a fender roll and slight pull and it fit.


So here is my measurement list:

Currently I have 17x7 +40 with 225/45 R17 tires (all 4 wheels)
I have 1 inch spacing between the inside of my current tire and my strut housing.


I am trying to mount 17x8.5 +56 on the front and 17x9.5 +56 on the rear. From my measuring it seemed almost like I needed close to a 2inch spacer in the rear but that would definitely be alot lower than a +35. I figured I needed a 1 inch spacer in the front.


Anyone able to help me solve this issue.

[Mstoochn]

I am trying to flush my "new" set of wheels on my celica. I have a list of measurements I just took and I am unsure if I did this right or not. I am also trying to figure out what tires I need but figure I will wait till I have spacers in to test out how the fitment will be. Then I will figure out what tire to wrap it with.


I have seen a celica running 19x8 +35 on the front and 19x9.5 +35 on the back with a fender roll and slight pull and it fit.


So here is my measurement list:

Currently I have 17x7 +40 with 225/45 R17 tires (all 4 wheels)
I have 1 inch spacing between the inside of my current tire and my strut housing.


I am trying to mount 17x8.5 +56 on the front and 17x9.5 +56 on the rear. From my measuring it seemed almost like I needed close to a 2inch spacer in the rear but that would definitely be alot lower than a +35. I figured I needed a 1 inch spacer in the front.


Anyone able to help me solve this issue.

problem is, thats a HUGE spacer, not sure they make them that big, I would try a 20mm on the front to see how it turns out, to be honesty, if u want the rears to be flush, your out of luck cuz your looking at almost 3 inches, i dont even think your studs are long enough for that much of a spacer

[Harold_Fastwaker]

problem is, thats a HUGE spacer, not sure they make them that big, I would try a 20mm on the front to see how it turns out, to be honesty, if u want the rears to be flush, your out of luck cuz your looking at almost 3 inches, i dont even think your studs are long enough for that much of a spacer

1 inch spacers are not an issue. Even 2 inch spacers are easy to get, they come with new studs attached.



I am looking at going 1 inch in the front and 1.3 in the rear. This should push the inside tire 10mm closer to the strut in the front and 15mm closer in the rear. The front will then bump out 28mm (1.1inch) and 49mm (close to 2 inches) in the rear.

[Mstoochn]

problem is, thats a HUGE spacer, not sure they make them that big, I would try a 20mm on the front to see how it turns out, to be honesty, if u want the rears to be flush, your out of luck cuz your looking at almost 3 inches, i dont even think your studs are long enough for that much of a spacer

1 inch spacers are not an issue. Even 2 inch spacers are easy to get, they come with new studs attached.



I am looking at going 1 inch in the front and 1.3 in the rear. This should push the inside tire 10mm closer to the strut in the front and 15mm closer in the rear. The front will then bump out 28mm (1.1inch) and 49mm (close to 2 inches) in the rear.

studs holding a spacer on with studs coming out, doesn't sound right to me, anyways, i didn't no they made them that big, but i gues thats awesome!

[richee3]

studs holding a spacer on with studs coming out, doesn't sound right to me, anyways, i didn't no they made them that big, but i gues thats awesome!

Yeah, I see those on fourwheelers all the time. Haven't really seen any for a car, but I don't know why they wouldn't make them.

[95CelicaST]

problem is, thats a HUGE spacer, not sure they make them that big, I would try a 20mm on the front to see how it turns out, to be honesty, if u want the rears to be flush, your out of luck cuz your looking at almost 3 inches, i dont even think your studs are long enough for that much of a spacer

1 inch spacers are not an issue. Even 2 inch spacers are easy to get, they come with new studs attached.



I am looking at going 1 inch in the front and 1.3 in the rear. This should push the inside tire 10mm closer to the strut in the front and 15mm closer in the rear. The front will then bump out 28mm (1.1inch) and 49mm (close to 2 inches) in the rear.

studs holding a spacer on with studs coming out, doesn't sound right to me, anyways, i didn't no they made them that big, but i gues thats awesome!

No, spacers that big are NOT good. It's too much pressure on the studs and they'll snap. Your best bet is to get extended studs or sell the wheels.


I've got a set of wheels with an offset of +48, and the most I'm willing to go is a 15mm spacer (.59") to get out to +33, but 10mm spacers (.39") to come out to +38.


+56 offset though...... those aren't going to work with spacers alone. You're going to need extended studs for that.

studs holding a spacer on with studs coming out, doesn't sound right to me, anyways, i didn't no they made them that big, but i gues thats awesome!

Yeah, I see those on fourwheelers all the time. Haven't really seen any for a car, but I don't know why they wouldn't make them.

1.25" 5x100 spacer. Looks sketchy.

[Harold_Fastwaker]

Sometimes I feel like the celica community lives under a rock. LOL

VW guys have been running 1.3inch spacers or larger for quite some time now. How do you think they fit Bentley, Lambo, Merc, etc wheels on the car.

Now, if I were to build a track car, Hell no I wouldnt run these spacers. But as my DD which sees less than 10k miles a year, you bet.


Those spacers you posted look like pep boys crap.

[ETNRIDER]

Sometimes I feel like the celica community lives under a rock. LOL

VW guys have been running 1.3inch spacers or larger for quite some time now. How do you think they fit Bentley, Lambo, Merc, etc wheels on the car.

Now, if I were to build a track car, Hell no I wouldnt run these spacers. But as my DD which sees less than 10k miles a year, you bet.


Those spacers you posted look like pep boys crap.

Yeah spacers are real common just not on Celicas. I had 3" spacers on each side of my Jeep and I bet the crap out of that thing on and off road. I broke axles and other parts but never a spacer. I plan on running 2" spacers on each side of my Toyota truck if I ever get the thing lifted. Everything is caputered in between the hub, spacer adn wheel, I see no reason to worry unless you have enough power to break all 5 studs at once.

[Culpable04]

there is a reason why H & R / eibach don't make spacers with studs already on them, they do make bolt pattern convertion kit like that, because there is no way around it, but a wheel spacer should not be made like that for one simple reason,

when you bolt the spacer to the hub, and then bolt the wheel tio the spacer, you can't see the nuts holding the spacer to the hub and if they were to come lose, you would only know it when is too late.

and just FYI, there is no Track grade studs, Studs are either the proper grade or are junk, so if a wheel spacer's stud is not good for track is also not good for streets.

IF you are really set to go with spacers that big, find a company that makes a spacer with holes and it and long enough studs to go with them, and HUB CENTRIC, don't get those with studs atttached to them, they are not safe, and the bigger the spacer the most pronounce would be the effect of off axis rotation, so make sure you get hub centric spacers. yes a lot of people have them with no issues, just like a lot of people have Ebay racing seats with no issiues either, if we are gonna learn from other cars, let's learn the good stuff.

[ETNRIDER]

when you bolt the spacer to the hub, and then bolt the wheel tio the spacer, you can't see the nuts holding the spacer to the hub and if they were to come lose, you would only know it when is too late.

True but the good wheel spacers should fit so tight the nuts holding the spacer can not back off at all. On all my setups the nuts could maybe turn 1-2 times before hitting the back of the wheel. Thus keeping them from backing off, I did always check mine every couple of trips and they where never loose.

Good info Culpable04

This post has been edited by ETNRIDER: Jul 15, 2009 - 9:08 AM

[Harold_Fastwaker]

there is a reason why H & R / eibach don't make spacers with studs already on them, they do make bolt pattern convertion kit like that, because there is no way around it, but a wheel spacer should not be made like that for one simple reason,

when you bolt the spacer to the hub, and then bolt the wheel tio the spacer, you can't see the nuts holding the spacer to the hub and if they were to come lose, you would only know it when is too late.

and just FYI, there is no Track grade studs, Studs are either the proper grade or are junk, so if a wheel spacer's stud is not good for track is also not good for streets.

IF you are really set to go with spacers that big, find a company that makes a spacer with holes and it and long enough studs to go with them, and HUB CENTRIC, don't get those with studs atttached to them, they are not safe, and the bigger the spacer the most pronounce would be the effect of off axis rotation, so make sure you get hub centric spacers. yes a lot of people have them with no issues, just like a lot of people have Ebay racing seats with no issiues either, if we are gonna learn from other cars, let's learn the good stuff.

As for track grade, that is not what I meant. I implied that on my daily driver I have no issues running 2inch spacers. If I was to track the car, I would run proper fitting wheels with an offset that do not need spacers.


I am buying hub centric spacers for the hub side and the wheel side is turned to the proper center bore and hub centric for my new set of wheels. Everything is done to the proper MM, trust me I do not intend on half assing this whole thing.

Spacer bolts are done just like lug nuts. 80-90lbs pressure, there is no reason the bolts should just come undone. Same thing with lugnuts, if they come off, you either have the wrong thread or didnt bother to tighten them properly.