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post Aug 6, 2009 - 1:34 PM
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Ok, now I see there there are some for sale that are slotted and drilled. A friend said not to go with drilled, because chances are they are not cast that way and they will crack. I guess slotted seems like the way to go and someone is offering to make me some (this is their business and so they do quite a bit of them daily) for $150 shipped both F & R, and also powder coated. I just wanted to know what you guys thought, because I know I could use some new rotors for both the front and especially on the RH side.


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post Aug 7, 2009 - 12:16 AM
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Hello? Anyone know? I kinda need to submit my order soon. Thank you. smile.gif


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post Aug 7, 2009 - 8:43 AM
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You can give a read for the rotors here http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/b...ake-rotors6.htm and make you a perspective

bottom line from my perspective, both, drill and slotted are good for the braking, both will dissipate head, remove dust and water....

now for the drill, these can make it more weak, BUT only if you abuse of them, otherwise for daily driving will be good...

for the slotted one, makes the same thing as the drill ones with the lightly difference of the "weakness" made by the drills, by other hand if you choose the slotted ones and you use normal pads you will be changing more often, this because of the slotted on the rotors.

I personally will go for the slotted ones, this because no many people takes the time to do the best drills on the rotor and here is where it comes with more weakness. they just drill and that's it for the rotors, drills need even more special care than the slotted ones.

so you can pick either of too but you will need more "durable" pads like ceramic on both rotors.

if you don't know which will be the best option for pads (not brand) Materials, check this out http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/b.../brake-pads.htm

then you can look for brand.


hope all this works for ya,


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post Aug 7, 2009 - 11:46 AM
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Very helpful! Thank you so much! What do you think of Big Brakes? My friend told me that a brand (which is listed on eBay) can run up to $4k, and yet I found that brand on eBay for only $768 shipped for all four. I am not planning on spending that much right now, but in the future, heck yeah.


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post Aug 7, 2009 - 1:04 PM
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if you want "big" brake system why not go for the GT-Four breaks. thats what I'm planning to do in a near future.

just need to find the GT-Four calipers and make the swap. I read over here that for the rear caliper there is no modifications to make since GT and GT-Four use the same application.

on the front you need to add some spacers to make it work, that was made on an ST celica so it will work for ST and GT considering the ST is more limited than the GT models

doing that you will need to change the brake fluid pump but beside that there is not to much work on it, and in that way you will have the Toyota's Big Brake system from an GT-Four wink.gif

This post has been edited by yagamius: Aug 7, 2009 - 1:07 PM


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post Aug 7, 2009 - 1:21 PM
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QUOTE (yagamius @ Aug 7, 2009 - 11:04 AM) *
if you want "big" brake system why not go for the GT-Four breaks. thats what I'm planning to do in a near future.

just need to find the GT-Four calipers and make the swap. I read over here that for the rear caliper there is no modifications to make since GT and GT-Four use the same application.

on the front you need to add some spacers to make it work, that was made on an ST celica so it will work for ST and GT considering the ST is more limited than the GT models

doing that you will need to change the brake fluid pump but beside that there is not to much work on it, and in that way you will have the Toyota's Big Brake system from an GT-Four wink.gif



Thank you so much! That sounds like a much better way to go. Are the sizes the same for GT-Four as the Big Brake system though? I believe it is 13" unless it is just the front. And I was misinformed, that price I gave was only for the Front brakes of the big brake system, so they will run nearly $1500 for both front and rear, if I were to go with Willwood (I think that is the brand), which I thought was a ghetto brand, but according to my friend, that is actually in fact a very good brand.


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post Aug 7, 2009 - 1:31 PM
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check this table, this is for all the GT-Four models

http://www.alltrac.net/specs/GT4Specs.htm

at the bottom you'll find the brake specs


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post Aug 7, 2009 - 2:07 PM
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yeah, slotted rotors are the way to go for performance. drilled is just foe looks, and they crack. i've heard zinc plated is a plus as well...?


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post Aug 7, 2009 - 2:24 PM
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QUOTE (yagamius @ Aug 7, 2009 - 11:31 AM) *
check this table, this is for all the GT-Four models

http://www.alltrac.net/specs/GT4Specs.htm

at the bottom you'll find the brake specs



Thank you again! You are really on top of things today, for this, I am grateful.

QUOTE (garin @ Aug 7, 2009 - 12:07 PM) *
yeah, slotted rotors are the way to go for performance. drilled is just foe looks, and they crack. i've heard zinc plated is a plus as well...?



Garin! What's up! Yeah, the drilled I see are zinc plated, but Eyner *Eggman40* said if you look at rotors that are drilled on peoples cars, you see cracks in them. I imagine that is NOT a good thing. LOL


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post Aug 8, 2009 - 3:46 AM
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a properly drilled rotor is best for brake pad life and daily driving because you wont have slots that constantly shave your brake pads. But that is only in the case where you have a properly drilled rotor. Most high end german cars come stock with drilled rotors, like amg mercs and porschs.

But MAJORITY of the time drilled rotors are just regular rotors with holes drilled in them. therefore is a worse product then original rotor.


So basically if your deciding between having a OEM rotor drilled or slotted. Either case is a lose-lose situation and your better off with stock brake rotors.

If i remembered correctly you can not use the GT4 brake rotor, the brake caliper would not clear it. So you will need to get the GT4 spindal which means converting your front suspension to the super strut suspension.


I think the most realist brake upgrade would be to get the 7th gen GTS brake rotor and caliper. If i remembered correctly off the top of my head, the gts hub is the same as the 6th gens hub.
post Aug 8, 2009 - 8:53 AM
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QUOTE (Hanyo @ Aug 8, 2009 - 1:46 AM) *
a properly drilled rotor is best for brake pad life and daily driving because you wont have slots that constantly shave your brake pads. But that is only in the case where you have a properly drilled rotor. Most high end german cars come stock with drilled rotors, like amg mercs and porschs.

But MAJORITY of the time drilled rotors are just regular rotors with holes drilled in them. therefore is a worse product then original rotor.


So basically if your deciding between having a OEM rotor drilled or slotted. Either case is a lose-lose situation and your better off with stock brake rotors.

If i remembered correctly you can not use the GT4 brake rotor, the brake caliper would not clear it. So you will need to get the GT4 spindal which means converting your front suspension to the super strut suspension.


I think the most realist brake upgrade would be to get the 7th gen GTS brake rotor and caliper. If i remembered correctly off the top of my head, the gts hub is the same as the 6th gens hub.



Perhaps, but from my understanding, you have to have the right rotors to use ceramic pads, and by doing this with slotted, allows me to use ceramic pads, which are better than semi-metallic, otherwise with OEM rotors, using ceramic might warp them, just going off of the things I have read and seeing how people offer drilled and slotted for this "Conversion" to ceramic pads.


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