Subayota Celiceza?, Toyota to Partner up with Subaru Options

[SlvrCelica09]

Hey guys, duno if anyone has seen this, but it certainly caught my eye:

http://www.scoobyblog.com/2008-02-05/subayota-celiceza

should be interesting.. says it may come out in 2011

[playr158]

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepost my friend

[Stambo]

but who knows if its actually gonna happen.
If it does happen the real question is, AWD or RWD? Both would be very fun tho

[njccmd2002]

Im waiting for some real news, no gossip. I hope is RWD, that will save me from buying a 1st gen celica

[Random_Stranger]

I did hear that it won't be a "Celica" but be a car for the Scion line, because supposedly the 6th gen Celica killed the sales for the celica name by being way overpriced for what it is. Looking like a sports car, and lacking the speed, yet being reliable and fun to drive. That's just what I heard, they said because of that, it affected sales of the 7th gen and more than likely done with the Celica line. I dunno though.

Every Japanese car make kinda had their own lil "Honda Civic" going on (cars that compete and compare in some aspect). Toyota had Celica, Mitsubishi has Eclipse, Honda has Civic, Nissan I guess their Sentra and lord knows wtf is up with Mazda over their and their crazy creations.

[Supersprynt]

This is very old new - however the latest is that this has been put on hold due to the crappy economy.

[yarik83]

find latest and greatest from 7tune website. It looks like just about every other site references it in one way or another. Latest "concept" is a sad sad version of original idea. Supposedly target audience is your mom and dad and their older siblings.

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This is very old new - however the latest is that this has been put on hold due to the crappy economy.

i thought i read it was a go because toyota desperately needed a sporty car to attract more buyers? i just read it like 2 weeks ago

[richee3]

I did hear that it won't be a "Celica" but be a car for the Scion line, because supposedly the 6th gen Celica killed the sales for the celica name by being way overpriced for what it is. Looking like a sports car, and lacking the speed, yet being reliable and fun to drive. That's just what I heard, they said because of that, it affected sales of the 7th gen and more than likely done with the Celica line. I dunno though.

Come on, if GM can somehow save the Camaro, Toyota can save the Celica! I won't get started on my new Camaro rant, but trust me, I could go on for days. Don't get me started on Solstices either. I know this concept will probably never become a reality, but I would start saving tomorrow and be first in line to buy one if it ever was to come true.

[3WayStunna]

Toyota messed up with the celica when they didnt introduce the st205 stateside. And secondly, failed even more miserbly when they didnt include any real sportscar to their lineup after the celica/mr2/supra. Honestly, they need to get their head out of their asses, screw this "teaming up" crap and bring back a sports car in general, made and designed for toyota, to be sold by toyota. Excuse my language, but its my opinion.

Meh, oh forgot to add, they couldve easily sold a cheaper GT4 stateside if money was an issue. Ionno, one without WTA intercooling, maybe the Mcpherson setup from the other celicas.

EDITED FOR GREAT JUSTICE:

Toyotas north american marketing strategy----



This post has been edited by 3WayStunna: Sep 8, 2009 - 10:45 AM

[njccmd2002]

toyota in the us is economy, thats it period.

I guess if you want performance its lexus. If you want something sporty looking and boxy and ugly its scion.

Who can afford lexus? Mom, dad and granpa. Scions are for kids, and we are left in the middle with no options. Toyota starts to dissapoint me... But they dont care, they have their sales with the camry...

[Random_Stranger]

I have a feeling sooner or later they will be able to bust out those sports cars once again, but as for now, I am amazed how they are dominating in sales in the USA. Sure others will argue that they "aren't" number one, but I remember reading an article on how they are afraid to be No.1 in the USA, and I would say if they are not, they are pretty damn close. They continue to do this, eventually, they are going to need to bust out those sports cars. I mean, it's almost like Ford are their rivals here and if Ford can bust out those mustangs, we (Toyota, and since I am a hardcore fanboy) need to hit back with something! Just 1 thing and keep it going, maybe a change every 6 years or something, The MR2, the Supra, just something consistent. Celica isn't bad for what it is, but since they do have the TC, I can understand why "Celica" would be terminated, however, they can beef up the Celica to a special GT-Four like vehicle, while not really taking away from the future "Celica" or "Celicas". Maybe just add a new head and a turbo charger with a rwd or awd version of the car, that is very cheap and effective.

Not like there were a lot of MR2's, Supras anyways, and I even hear that the GT-Four is very rare overseas as well, even though we never got one here in North America. So wtf?!

[richee3]

I agree with you, Faust, that Toyota does need some kind of sports car, but I also agree with njccmd that they have the sales they want with the Camry and the Corolla. When you are the head of Toyota, it's not about building the fastest car. It's about how you can pad your wallet a little bit more. I agree that Toyota does need a dedicated sports car out there, not something that you want to buy to haul the kids around in and look good doing it, but an actual, good sports car. The tC is a lame replacement for the Celica. I understand Toyota's goal behind it, trying to build something sporty but economical so kids can afford it, but that's where they went wrong- it's aimed at kids my age. How many 19 year olds are out buying the best sports cars? The tC seems too much like the Corolla to me. I think Toyota needs to come out with a car specifically designed to take on the Mustang. They have the tC to get their share of sales from potential Civic buyers, but they have nothing to take on the sports car market. If they came out with a sports coupe with a 6 cylinder, they could be taking sales from the Mustang. It's well known that Toyota's goal is reliability and economy, so I'm sure they could find a good balance between something quick and something to take out the Mustang. But then again, who are a bunch of guys from 6gc.net to tell the main guys at Toyota what to do?

[presure2]

Toyota messed up with the celica when they didnt introduce the st205 stateside

do you realize toyota sold exactly 81 celica alltrac's in the USA in '93?
there are lots of reasons toyota didnt bring the 205 stateside, and that is prolly the biggest one.

[Random_Stranger]

Well that's what I am going to school for. I want to eventually be able to legally and be taken seriously when it comes to building and designing cars. I would LOVE to work for Toyota, even if I were a lowly custodian employed by Toyota. Let alone pitch a new design, or idea and have them use it, and of course make a wallet out of it. I love Toyota so damn much, it's not even funny. Sometimes I wonder if God even questions my loyalty when it comes to Him or Toyota... lol (Ok.. let's not get into that debate).

Toyota messed up with the celica when they didnt introduce the st205 stateside

do you realize toyota sold exactly 81 celica alltrac's in the USA in '93?
there are lots of reasons toyota didnt bring the 205 stateside, and that is prolly the biggest one.

That's a good point, but at the same time, why is the resale value so high then? I would imagine the car would be total garbage and sold for a lot less, being traded amongst people like Tilla Tequilla.

This post has been edited by Random_Stranger: Sep 8, 2009 - 6:09 PM

[Stambo]

If they came out with another gt4, and got back in to the WRC i think sales would go up, and be able to compete with evo's n sti's. Just look at how many people with evo's n sti's. That whole deal really blew up not to long ago.

[presure2]

That's a good point, but at the same time, why is the resale value so high then? I would imagine the car would be total garbage and sold for a lot less, being traded amongst people like Tilla Tequilla

because they ARE a nice car, and there is a market for them.

part of the reason they didnt sell at the time was the price, they were just too damn expensive.

[Random_Stranger]

That's a good point, but at the same time, why is the resale value so high then? I would imagine the car would be total garbage and sold for a lot less, being traded amongst people like Tilla Tequilla

because they ARE a nice car, and there is a market for them.

part of the reason they didnt sell at the time was the price, they were just too damn expensive.

Oh yeah, I can see that. But now is a good chance to bring them back, just because of Evo's and STi's, people want something different.

[njccmd2002]

If they came out with a sports coupe with a 6 cylinder.

In their minds they think they have. A Solara coupe V6 and vert. But if you ask me, i only see Moms driving around, in their midlife crisis.

That's a good point, but at the same time, why is the resale value so high then? I would imagine the car would be total garbage and sold for a lot less, being traded amongst people like Tilla Tequilla

because they ARE a nice car, and there is a market for them.

part of the reason they didnt sell at the time was the price, they were just too damn expensive.

There is a market cause we exist. LOL, finally people realize the potential of matchbox cars LOL

however many are making tons of money selling crap, cause you guys do realize we are importing all the crap japans disposes. And we call it JDM. RPM garage calls it the rarest of the rarest.

Anothers man trash is our treasure. Ironic.

[DEATH]

This is the best conversation we've had about Toyota and the Celica line in many years and it started with a repost of a repost of a repost...
You ask me? WE are TRD, WE are the future of the Celica line.
I'm proud to be part of this group who keeps the dream alive and better everyday.
Fcuk Toyota and their BS [unless they find it in their hearts to give us a $60k stripped down version of the LFA with the drivetrain and looks intact - and then bless those wonderful folks over there]