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post Nov 7, 2003 - 11:28 PM
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anyone ever customized their trunk with fiberglass? i want to give this a shot but im not very experienced with fiberglass and i just wanna kno if its hard and if you guys know of any link or anything that would tell me how to work with fiberglass that would help me out thanks.
or maybe i would be better off just taking it in to get customized.

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post Nov 7, 2003 - 11:52 PM
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I'd definitely try to do it yourself, because from what I hear, it's not too hard. I want to make my own box for my car as well, and here are a few links that should help you out.

http://web.njit.edu/~cas1383/proj/main/
http://coralchopper.com/the-ride/glassing.htm

And for forums, the following forums are excellent resources for anything about car audio, including fiberglass work.

http://www.the12volt.com
http://www.elitecaraudio.com

Hope this helps. smile.gif


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post Nov 7, 2003 - 11:52 PM
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Orrr he beat me to it.

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post Nov 8, 2003 - 12:20 AM
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hey coomer those links helped out alot thanks alot. It doenst look or sound as hard, i was just reading the fiberglass how to by Neverstop i think it was by, then i go back to check on my post and there is coomer with more info thanks alot homie.

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post Nov 8, 2003 - 2:27 AM
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QUOTE (StrangerDanger @ Nov 7, 2003 - 9:20 PM)
hey coomer those links helped out alot thanks alot. It doenst look or sound as hard, i was just reading the fiberglass how to by Neverstop i think it was by, then i go back to check on my post and there is coomer with more info thanks alot homie.

anthony

No problem. Be sure to post pics and let us know how it turns out if you decide to do this. smile.gif


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post Nov 8, 2003 - 9:28 AM
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I just love the first article. That guy is hillarious. Very helpful and I will more then likely do this in the spring.

For more indepth detail check out this forum
http://www.caraudiolounge.com/

Check out the "Fabrication" Topic and you'll find a lot of threads dealing with FG install.

And for you that have done this: What type of Fiberglass did you use? I'm planning on using it in the back two corners. I've heard 18 oz plain weave.

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post Nov 8, 2003 - 2:16 PM
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QUOTE (Andason @ Nov 8, 2003 - 6:28 AM)
I just love the first article. That guy is hillarious. Very helpful and I will more then likely do this in the spring.

For more indepth detail check out this forum
http://www.caraudiolounge.com/

Check out the "Fabrication" Topic and you'll find a lot of threads dealing with FG install.

And for you that have done this: What type of Fiberglass did you use? I'm planning on using it in the back two corners. I've heard 18 oz plain weave.

I read your last post on that forum about using little squares or full sheets, and you'll want to use little squares. wink.gif That site is pretty cool and has some good information.


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post Nov 8, 2003 - 2:19 PM
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how about this question:

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QUOTE (dbdraggin @ Nov 8 2003, 05:49 PM)
no, the 18oz (or the 24 oz available from select products) are necessary for the initial lay up of the fabric because of their relative thickness so you dont soak them all the way through to the glued side. figure out the dimesions of the area you want to work on, just pretend they are flat and figure out the square footage from there. obviously multiply that by 8 and youll have your answer, i always add about 10 to 15 percent extra just to be safe and to make up for unmeasurable round corners and such. theres a link in that post where you can get matting, tools, and cloth online very inexpensively also. 



so when you do this, the resin isnt actually supposed to soak through the first layer???


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post Nov 8, 2003 - 2:25 PM
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QUOTE (Andason @ Nov 8, 2003 - 11:19 AM)
how about this question:

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no, the 18oz (or the 24 oz available from select products) are necessary for the initial lay up of the fabric because of their relative thickness so you dont soak them all the way through to the glued side. figure out the dimesions of the area you want to work on, just pretend they are flat and figure out the square footage from there. obviously multiply that by 8 and youll have your answer, i always add about 10 to 15 percent extra just to be safe and to make up for unmeasurable round corners and such. theres a link in that post where you can get matting, tools, and cloth online very inexpensively also. 



so when you do this, the resin isnt actually supposed to soak through the first layer???

From what I've read, the resin should soak into the first layer of mat. Just be sure you've got something like masking tape and aluminum foil behind the place where you're going to be laying down the mat. Also, if you wax up the area where the mat will be placed beforehand, the fiberglass mold will come out of the car easier once it's dry.


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post Nov 8, 2003 - 2:29 PM
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i guess ill have to gineau pig this... smile.gif i guess i've read enough to where i'm at the point to try it. God damn winter. time to find a heated shop thats well ventilated... smile.gif


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I might be gineau-pigging this too. wink.gif I'm going home in an hour or so, and I may be able to drive my dad's Audi for a while. If so, I might pop in a new cd player and make a fiberglass sub box for the trunk of the car and put in my old Audiobahn sub, just so that I can have some bass.


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post Nov 8, 2003 - 3:28 PM
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QUOTE (Coomer @ Nov 8, 2003 - 1:25 PM)
I might be gineau-pigging this too. wink.gif I'm going home in an hour or so, and I may be able to drive my dad's Audi for a while. If so, I might pop in a new cd player and make a fiberglass sub box for the trunk of the car and put in my old Audiobahn sub, just so that I can have some bass.

LOL In your dad's Audi?

One of my friends is HUGE into tinting, and he drove his dad's s-10 for a while and there are insane tint designs (multiple colored layering) in the back window and I see his dad driving around now that he's at some automotive school in Idaho.

His dad's a mack though, he restores cars and all that stuff.


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QUOTE (StrangerDanger @ Nov 7, 2003 - 9:20 PM)
hey coomer those links helped out alot thanks alot. It doenst look or sound as hard, i was just reading the fiberglass how to by Neverstop i think it was by, then i go back to check on my post and there is coomer with more info thanks alot homie.

anthony

WORD, thnx Coomer. Good info
post Nov 8, 2003 - 11:46 PM
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ive been reading the info i got from you guys over and over, lol but one thing im still a lil confused on and hope someone can help me out with is keeping the new fiberglass piece down. It shows how to make it and everything but once its done how to you keep it in place? Know what im saying? How do i keep it down so it wont move or fall when i make a turn something.

hope this question made sence lol

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post Nov 9, 2003 - 2:55 AM
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yeah i've been wondering the same thind about dash inserts, how do you get the factory clips and junk to hold them in place?
post Nov 9, 2003 - 4:19 PM
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QUOTE (van95st @ Nov 9, 2003 - 12:55 AM)
yeah i've been wondering the same thind about dash inserts, how do you get the factory clips and junk to hold them in place?

cut them off the original piece and fiberglass them to it. i would imagine this being quite hard.
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ive been reading the info i got from you guys over and over, lol but one thing im still a lil confused on and hope someone can help me out with is keeping the new fiberglass piece down. It shows how to make it and everything but once its done how to you keep it in place? Know what im saying? How do i keep it down so it wont move or fall when i make a turn something.


When I make the boxes for the back of my car im going to use L Brackets fiberglass them into a few layers so they are just sticking out of the bottom.

I've heard someone say velcro - bad idea. There are a lot of options. If you have any questions PM me.
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I read your last post on that forum about using little squares or full sheets, and you'll want to use little squares.  That site is pretty cool and has some good information.

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initally, as many large piece as you can work with is the best idea, once you have on solid layer it will be hard to lay bigger pieces on top of the old stuff in the corners and bends as such, so i usually work with smaller strips in the corners once ive got one establish layer.

After all this information I have a pretty good intake of how to do this. I'm going to work on a friends RX-7 this week. I'll post photos of the work and what to do. I'm going to make a pretty extensive how to (sorry NEVERSTOP) smile.gif on everything you'll need and need to know to make a subwoofer enclosure.

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post Nov 9, 2003 - 4:32 PM
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its me again on the fiberglassing.... i suggest be4 u paint ur car tell ur body man u want him to prime and paint some pieces for u.. in the trunk the panels are a little ruff... no real fiberglass is needed... wat u need to do is sand it down until each piece is smooth,, then prime it with some thick primer... wetsand it again untill it is smooth again... then paint...like i said a million times i gotta post pics... im just a lazy bastid and never wash the car or take pics. i will be4 it snows...


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cut them off the original piece and fiberglass them to it. i would imagine this being quite hard.


not that easy... ABS plastic doesnt like to take to fiberglass worth a damn. trust me I have tried to do it countless times and never had much sucess.. the best attempt I had was using a plastic weld to the fiberglass but it didnt hold for as long as I hoped.

The one thing I havnt tried yet and am planing on doing with a side vent I am recreating outta glass to mount some guages in is to make my mold with plaster and them cut out the mounting clips and work them into the wet glass... so it surrounds a piece of the ABS.. that way even if it come loose of the glass the clip will be held in cuz the glass is surrounding it..... frown.gif dont think that made alot of sense... oh well


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QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Nov 9, 2003 - 2:33 PM)
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cut them off the original piece and fiberglass them to it. i would imagine this being quite hard.


not that easy... ABS plastic doesnt like to take to fiberglass worth a damn. trust me I have tried to do it countless times and never had much sucess.. the best attempt I had was using a plastic weld to the fiberglass but it didnt hold for as long as I hoped.

The one thing I havnt tried yet and am planing on doing with a side vent I am recreating outta glass to mount some guages in is to make my mold with plaster and them cut out the mounting clips and work them into the wet glass... so it surrounds a piece of the ABS.. that way even if it come loose of the glass the clip will be held in cuz the glass is surrounding it..... frown.gif dont think that made alot of sense... oh well

Theres always duct tape smile.gif

Oh and thats what I actually was thinking after I read the first paragraph^^^

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