 Attention Swappers...Question about AC, Does yours work? |
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 Nov 27, 2003 - 2:00 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Dec 21, '02 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
I am near completion of my 2nd gen 3sgte swap in place of what formerly was a 7afe. I was wondering if anyone had completed the same swap and got their AC to work. I realize the compressor has to be changed, but just curious what you all did. Any help is appreciated. It's winter now, but I won't have a heater or defroster. Summer is what I'm REALLY worried about.
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Nov 27, 2003 - 4:13 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
many remove it,
some dont get it to work properly, but if you wire it up right and install it(get a 5sfe ac compressor) it will work. -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Nov 27, 2003 - 5:36 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 10, '03 From South Central Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i just left my A/C out.
I say you do the same, just make sure you leave the power stearing. |
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Nov 27, 2003 - 7:05 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 21, '02 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I suppose it's the price to pay for speed, eh? In 95 degree weather here in Florida, I'm just gonna have to atleast try and make it work before summer comes. I can deal with it, but my girlfriend can't unfortunately. You know how girls are. So I guess I'll give the 5sfe compressor a try. Thanks guys.
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Nov 28, 2003 - 11:30 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From KC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
What is wrong with the compressor from the 3s? At the worst, I would think all you needed to do would be to splice the AC hoses, they sell splices for doing just that- Or most full service Auto Parts stores have hydraulic crimpers and can custom build hoses to fit, maybe using the fittings from the 3s compressor and the other ends from your stock hoses? (I am assuming the 3s came with AC, if not, is that something else to look for when buying a clip? Make sure the one you get has AC? ) I am NOT doing without AC,,,I have seen it hit over 100 degrees here for 30 days in a row,,, Or is it that you need the brackets from the 5s? , I would imagine the compressors are all the same regardless of engine, just different mountings or pulleys? are the 5s and 3s close enough to use the same brackets? you may be able to swap pulleys if needed, it does sometimes require a special pulley puller for AC units... Someone needs to write a book on this...get all the known info in 1 place.  This post has been edited by 97GTinKC: Nov 28, 2003 - 11:42 AM |
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Nov 28, 2003 - 1:21 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
the compressors are intechangeable but the hose lines are ran differently.. at least between the 5s and the 3s... I would recomend checking the ac lines between a 5s and a 7a I am not sure if they are different or not. if they are different then get the 5s ones, that way you are not havin to redo all of the hose/lines.. as for hooking it up you are going to have to run it to a toggle switch inside the cab.. its the only way that I know how. When I 1st did the swap I left it out for the extra HP but think I will try and hook it up this time around.. there is a how to somewhere online to hook it up. Stipt found it I will ask him where it was or you can PM him.
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Nov 28, 2003 - 2:17 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yes, the lines b/w the 7A and the 5S are different. I had to purchase line from a 5S last week. As for the compressor, I'm using the one that came with the 3S. I didn't change anything else pertaining to the A/C, just the lines. For those with a GT, you shouldn't have to make any additional purchases to get the A/C to work. To everyone, I'll keep you posted once the car is started. I don't know if the A/C is going to work yet or not. ELP doesn't doubt that it will not work. Qatar sorta explained to my why it wouldn't work. But although ELP has been taking their sweet arse time, I'm confident that will get it to work. Like 97GTinKC, I will NOT do without A/C. I'll let you all know wassup... I'm droppin by the junk yard to pick up my last part that's needed (the throttle cable). Hopefully we'll get this thing started today, and if not today, tomorrow or Monday. |
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Nov 28, 2003 - 2:51 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 21, '02 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Stupid 7A-FE.
This post has been edited by XSTeknique: Nov 28, 2003 - 2:54 PM |
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Nov 28, 2003 - 2:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Lake Orion, MI Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
No No No No No
Here is why is does't work - For those of you who are using a Celica ST as the platform for their 3SGTE project. Your Air Condition will not work without significant changes. The phyiscal hoses and exact compressor locations are trite problems easily fixed. The A/C Amplifier that is part of the HVAC system in the Celica ST uses one signal wire to kick on and off the A/C compressor. the Celica GT and ST185, ST205, SW20 share a similar style of activating the Magnetic Clutch Relay - which really gets the A/C compressor to... well, compress. This system is more advanced and takes into account a few more things. Hence that is why the AT200 HVAC system cannot run one of those A/C Compressors. Now I'm sure you can either modify the Compressor, or just replace your A/C amplifier to make the AC. Research is pending on it at Top Shelf Racing.. we busy with a Supra harness, two 4A harnesses and my own Body Control Module for me EE 470 class. -------------------- -Mike
mjcoury@gmail.com Team Reynolds Style Celica Blog Celica Wiki It will take him a moment to realize that he's about to make a 180 degree turn at speed, but you will be ready for it. Brace for the g's, and fast heel-toe work. |
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Nov 28, 2003 - 9:33 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 21, '02 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well our buddy Mike is right once again. But don't despair yet...there is hope, I think. I went to visit Jamasco, a shop in Ft. Lauderdale that is putting a 3rd gen 3sgte in place of a 7afe...and the AC works. The guy I spoke to today didn't know too much into detail what was involved because they had an AC guy work on it, but it was something like a Corolla compressor, Camry pulley, factory clutch and factory lines. Don't quote me on this, but this is just to let you know that it is custom job but from what i hear, doable. I'll find out more info when I can, or I can provide you with the shop's number if you need to ask them questions.
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Nov 28, 2003 - 9:37 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
I heard if you hotwired the a/c to a switch to turn on the compressor along with the fan it'll work.
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Nov 28, 2003 - 10:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i heard that somewhere too, but it wasnt related to a swap. i think it was from a rippmods post, they ripped out their wirenarness in a blowout and they had to temp wire the ac and alternator controls. that would work, but it would be annoying -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Nov 29, 2003 - 12:56 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
No it was swap related it was on celica.net. Can do a search? I dunno but i definately know it had to do with the swap...i think.
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