remote start on manual, we have a neutral safety switch? |
remote start on manual, we have a neutral safety switch? |
Oct 22, 2003 - 1:19 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 31, '03 From GA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Ok,
I'm about to purchase an alarm/keyless entry and would like to use remote start as well. If i ever park on a hill I tend to leave the car in gear so it won't roll. If I park on flat ground I just leave it in neutral and pull up the ebrake. What I am wondering is if our car has a "neutral safety switch". I have heard some cars have this and it basicaly wont allow the remote start to work unless the car is in neutral. I know that if I dindt use this some of my friends would probly be playing with my keys one day and start it while its in gear. If we dont have a neutral saftey switch I wont even use this function. I would love to be able to get my heater going in the mornings though during the winter. Does anyone recomend a certian model of alarm/remote start for manual cars. Also does anyone have a diagram for our car of how to hook it up? including what wires I need to tap into for keyless entry and ignition. I have installed an alarm before but it didnt have remote start and I dindt use the keyless entry b/c i had manul door locks and didnt want to install actuators. Any help would be appreciated. |
Oct 22, 2003 - 3:12 PM |
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
I've got a Autopage RS650 alarm with remote start on my car, and it's got a custom safety switch that I have to push in every time I plan on remote starting my car, because the five speed versions of our cars don't have a neutral safety switch.
If you don't want to do that, you can buy a remote start system that's made for a five speed. I have a wiring diagram that's available here and will be of some help. However, your wiring colors in your car may be different, so always test your wires with a multimeter, and be sure not to test any wires with a test light or wires that are surrounded in yellow tape or tubing, as these are air bag wires. Also, on that diagram, a few of those connections are now hooked up to better locations. Let me know if you've got more questions. -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Oct 22, 2003 - 4:02 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 31, '03 From GA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
man, i had my hopes up too. i really dont see it being worth the extra expense if you have to "set it up" for remote start when you leave the car. i'm not sure if i think its worth it or not yet. i'll have to think about it somemore. does anyone have one of these alarms for sale? what about just a alarm /keyless entry?
cormudgen |
Oct 22, 2003 - 5:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '02 From Detroit Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The 'safety switch' can be easily defeated. It's located under the clutch pedal. All you do is make the 2 wires touch each other(using a butt connector, or a piece of wire between the plug so it can be undone easily).
I've had mine this way for a long time(don't have remote start, but I can start the car by reaching through the window and cranking it). Just be sure you leave it in neutral or you'll damage the transmission every time you start it. |
Oct 22, 2003 - 5:27 PM |
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
And you can always run your car into a cement wall like I did. Cormudgen, don't be discouraged by having to push in a button when you plan to remote start your car. It's really not too much to do, and every time you do it, you'll remember to put your car into neutral. -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Oct 23, 2003 - 7:01 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 2, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
im running a compustar remote 2way alarm and i dont have a neutral switch but to activate remote start what i have to do is park the car dont step on brake, pull up hand brake and remove key from ignition and the car is still running after you get out of the car and it shuts down after 5 secs and thats how i start my remote start
ya i dont do it on uphills or regular i just left my remote start to waste im gonna upgrade to a better alarm system that has 1 mile range which is pretty damn good !!! |
Oct 24, 2003 - 11:32 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '02 From Detroit Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
After a while it becomes 2nd nature to just use the e-brake and leave the car in neutral. Of course it might just be me since my first car didn't require the clutch to be in to start it, so I learned the hard way a few times. This post has been edited by aaronc222: Oct 24, 2003 - 11:33 AM |
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Oct 24, 2003 - 11:42 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 10, '03 From FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i have never parked in first gear except when on a steep hill. im always scared i will forget at let the clutch out and hit the car in front of me. i always park in neutral and dont even think about it now.
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Oct 24, 2003 - 12:44 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 8, '03 From Dallas, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hey guys, which is a good reasonable Car Alarm + Remote Starter, i am also looking to have a push button start also and hence make the key obsolete...
This post has been edited by kingpreetham: Oct 24, 2003 - 12:44 PM |
Oct 24, 2003 - 2:01 PM |
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
I like my Autopage RS-650 quite a bit, and with all of the extra stuff I've added, my car is very secure. You've just go to remember that install is everything, just like in car audio. You can buy the best alarm in the world, but if it's not installed very well, then it's not going to be very effective. Also, you'll probably still want to use your key, so that your car can't be stolen easily. Though if you do everything right, I suppose you'd be able to get away with not using the key at all. -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Oct 24, 2003 - 3:26 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 31, '03 From GA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i like to park my car in gear for extra rolling security. especialy if i'm on a hill.
cormudgen |
Oct 24, 2003 - 5:06 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 8, '03 From Dallas, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
thanx coomer, i do agree that the alarm has to be installed correctly to make the car secure....did u do the alarm install yourself.
well, Cormudgen..the place i come from, hills are not a problem etall.. |
Oct 24, 2003 - 5:09 PM |
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
I did do the install myself. Originally, it was installed by me without much experience and everything worked perfectly, but about three months ago, I tore it all out and re-installed it even better, soldering and hiding all of the wires this time, just for peace of mind. Also, I forgot to mention that with the safety switch that I'm using, when the button is pressed, one relay is always energized, so there's a very small current drain on the battery. -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Oct 24, 2003 - 7:48 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 8, '03 From Dallas, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
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Oct 24, 2003 - 8:19 PM |
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
To me, having a LCD and a couple additional nice features isn't worth the increase in price over the RS-650 to me. But that's just me. I'd suggest doing some searches at The12Volt.com, as you'll find some reviews there. -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Oct 25, 2003 - 4:27 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 26, '03 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I have an LCD pager, I hate it. I just wanted the extra features. I'm trying to find a relay for my ungo that rolls up the windows and can roll them down too. I also want one that closes my sunroof (id use the module i already have) I can turn my neon on and off and all types of stuff. I need to get the basics done before i do alarm tuning.
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Oct 31, 2003 - 5:04 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '03 From Bowling Green, KY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i found out today when i bought my remote start that it is illegal to put remote start on 5speed bc it can be in gear and hit soembody. but im doing it anyway just bc i ALWAYS leave it in neutral when i park
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Oct 31, 2003 - 9:25 PM |
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
It's illegal around here as well, for the same reason. I don't care though. I mostly only use my remote start at home to let my car warm up when it's cold, when I'm showing it to people, or for confusing old people or my drunk friends. -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Nov 3, 2003 - 1:11 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 8, '03 From Dallas, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i have a green button on my key, along with the lock and unlock button...wonder what is it used for....can i use it to have a remote start
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Nov 3, 2003 - 2:28 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 6, '03 From Fairbanks AK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i just had a remote start/alarm put on my car galaxy 5000 i think it's a 2 way with a lcd pager. looks like the one on the link posted earlier. i love it!!!! my clutch is bypassed too, but you have to engage it and pull up the ebrake before you shut the car off then the engine will stay running until you get out and shut the driver's door, that's so there's no way possible you could have left the car in gear. had a freind do it for pretty cheap and unless you plan on doing a thorough job and soldering all joints and hiding all wires i think it's the best route.
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