no start but cranking Options

[luka]

found the oil leak that I was looking for, was coming from the oil pump o ring on the flange with the oil pump cam seal...so I fixed that

put the timing belt back on, covers, accessory belts on and stuff, went for a start and it just cranks over without ever starting.

the crank is pretty strong, so I don't think its the battery.

if I press in the gas while cranking, I can hear it put'ing alittle.

there was some gas on the spark plugs but I don't think that would be the problem..or would it?

any pointers where I could back track? I have thursday open to take it back apart to re-check/set the timing but I'm not sure what else I could look at.

[bccentaur3]

Could be timing. Did you make sure your crank was set at TDC?

[luka]

hmm....I wonder if i'm off 1 tooth then. I tried to turn the distributer...but it looks like it doesn't turn?

to shoot the timing after with my light, are then any specific pins I have to jump?

I wish there was an online toyota manual...everywhere i've been to doesn't have anything for 6gc's

[solidxsnake]

'98 means the distributor isn't able to turn. OBDII.

http://www.celicatech.com/imagearchive/bgbonline/bgb.php

That may help for a manual.

Edit: wow, not distributor ABLE to turn, the opposite =_=

This post has been edited by solidxsnake: Nov 24, 2009 - 12:35 AM

[Stambo]

If you were off a tooth the car should crank over and run like crap but still run. I assume the car ran decent before you did the timing belt?

This post has been edited by Stambo: Nov 23, 2009 - 11:47 PM

[luka]

yeah, it ran fine and everything the day I took it apart to get to the oil pump

[Stambo]

I'd take the belt cover off and just turn the crank so it's tdc to see how far you are off.

[luka]

yeah, I pulled the distributor because I wasn't getting an spark and found it was leaking oil internally, so replaced that and still no spark..

i'll open up the timing belt side again in the morning and see.

[808celica]

im all out of ideas man. factory alarm?? ignition kill?? any fuse or relay???

This post has been edited by 808celica: Nov 26, 2009 - 1:18 PM

[luka]

no alarm or any other mod of that type. I ended up sleeping all day and woke up when it was dark...I'll open it up tomorrow after work, pull the crank sensor and clean that as well..

had a bit of oil in the electrical connectors

[Stambo]

Sounds good man, hopefully the connections were just dirty with oil or something little like that.

[luka]

the problem was the timing...it was almost a full stroke off...it was a bit hard to start at first, but after that it was a perfect 10 @ 750. Just setting the cam sproket to TDC is the tricky part...

now to continue with the EGR recirc flow insuff...startig to think the ECU is at fault.

[mmmchocolate]

mine did that awhile back.

[TerryE]

Lucky for you, the engine is not an over-lap design (where the valves will hit the piston if the timing is off). The old 20R (77 Celica's were an over-lap design) I bent five (5) valves when I did'nt get the timing 100% correct. It puffed an ----ed a couple times and that was it. I was working on an exhaust coolant leak at the exhaust valve guide (20R's were notorious for that) outside in the middle of winter in a snowstorm. Boy, was I ticked off.

P.S. make sure you get the belt tensioner set right.