2nd Gen 3sgte Build thread, S54 rebuild with pictures galore! |
2nd Gen 3sgte Build thread, S54 rebuild with pictures galore! |
Jan 22, 2011 - 6:03 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 23, '08 From Muskego,Wi Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
So guys i told myself after the swap i wont spend anymore money on my car... That was a joke. I just purchased a m-factory lsd and will be putting it in my trans within the next few weeks. I am also rebuilding the trans too. I will be taking many pictures to show you guys and tell you if its a easy swap in and out of the diff.
Keep you guys posted -------------------- 2nd Gen 3s-gte.... It lives!
97celiman "92-gt-quit making up random acronyms that dont mean anything. the only real acronym is JDM" |
Jan 31, 2011 - 8:48 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 23, '08 From Muskego,Wi Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
I got a present today... -------------------- 2nd Gen 3s-gte.... It lives!
97celiman "92-gt-quit making up random acronyms that dont mean anything. the only real acronym is JDM" |
Feb 1, 2011 - 2:29 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 20, '08 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
NICE! Can't wait to see how much better it feels after you install that.
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Feb 1, 2011 - 3:13 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 22, '07 From Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
nice work! let's see some more recent pics!
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Feb 1, 2011 - 8:30 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 23, '08 From Muskego,Wi Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
ill take a few pictures once the blizzard is over in wisconsin...
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97celiman "92-gt-quit making up random acronyms that dont mean anything. the only real acronym is JDM" |
Feb 9, 2011 - 11:04 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 23, '08 From Muskego,Wi Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
bad news, the lsd i got is the wrong one. I called the guys at mfactory and they wanted me to measure the ID of the final drive gear and the OD of the diff they sent me. Completely off. He says i have the final drive for a c56 trans which doesn't make sense i have a s54 trans bolted up to my 3s. So i guess i'm SOL on the diff. Even though on the website it clearly states LSD for 3s-ge/5s-fe s-series trans.....
I have plenty of pictures to upload tomorrow off the trans disassemble and gears and other goodies. -------------------- 2nd Gen 3s-gte.... It lives!
97celiman "92-gt-quit making up random acronyms that dont mean anything. the only real acronym is JDM" |
Feb 12, 2011 - 12:33 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 23, '08 From Muskego,Wi Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
So guys I have my s54 gt trans torn all apart. Pictures speak louder than words...
All torn apart. Out put shaft. Diff Starting to get a little confusing Mfactory sent me the wrong diff. Final drive gear is to big for the LSD. Talked to the company, they said i had a c56 ring gear. Even though i have a s54? I didn't bother to deal with it and just sent the diff back and got my refund. This is the syncro blocker ring set for 2nd gear. The two brass rings are the syncro blocker rings. That middle piece is a plate for doubling the friction surface area. You could think of this set up as a twin disk clutch set up. When you shift from 1st to 2nd you gotta slow down 2nd gear pretty quick so the syncro hub can mesh into 2nd gear's dog teeth. I ordered parts off a old mr2 topic with part numbers for the s54. Half of them were wrong. 1st gear and syncro blocker ring output shaft. 3rd gear and syncro blocker ring. It wouldn't be a bad idea for me to replace 3rd gear but toyota said its on national back order. It could take one week or a month.... 4th gear n syncro Painting the tranny case Looks new! Once i am 100% all the parts i have will work i will post all the part numbers up with pictures to match them so if you guys feel like rebuilding yours, you got the right numbers. It sucks that the LSD won't work but atleast i will have a fresh rebuilt transmission. -------------------- 2nd Gen 3s-gte.... It lives!
97celiman "92-gt-quit making up random acronyms that dont mean anything. the only real acronym is JDM" |
Feb 12, 2011 - 1:32 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '09 From Westport, MA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
def keepin a close eye on this! very interested in a LSD s54. if it works out of corse.
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Feb 12, 2011 - 8:09 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
when u put it back, post pics, as id like to take apart my beams tranny..
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Feb 13, 2011 - 2:51 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 23, '08 From Muskego,Wi Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
I plan on it. Cause I have not seen a full step by step assembly with pictures online
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97celiman "92-gt-quit making up random acronyms that dont mean anything. the only real acronym is JDM" |
Feb 13, 2011 - 11:29 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 25, '06 From MN Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
How hard is it to take the tranny apart like that ?? I got a quote from a shop when I wanted to install a lsd in my s54 with the tranny taken off the car already they wanted $800 just to install it without parts with a kaaz lsd it'll almost be $2k, is it really that time consuming and hard to do ??
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Feb 13, 2011 - 1:26 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 23, '08 From Muskego,Wi Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
i don't think it should cost that much. As long as you go slow and make sure you have everything in order it really isn't that bad.
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97celiman "92-gt-quit making up random acronyms that dont mean anything. the only real acronym is JDM" |
Feb 13, 2011 - 11:15 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 29, '05 From So-Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
Thanks Stambo for making this...a step by step with pics involve and RIGHT part number would be very helpful. i also am planning to rebuild with my swap. ill say it again " THANK YOU..."
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Feb 14, 2011 - 2:29 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 23, '08 From Muskego,Wi Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
I'm going to try and get the diagrams of the input and output shafts disassembled and scan them onto my computer so that can also help you guys out.
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97celiman "92-gt-quit making up random acronyms that dont mean anything. the only real acronym is JDM" |
Feb 20, 2011 - 4:59 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 23, '08 From Muskego,Wi Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Parts are here!
Tranny case all painted up nice. -------------------- 2nd Gen 3s-gte.... It lives!
97celiman "92-gt-quit making up random acronyms that dont mean anything. the only real acronym is JDM" |
Feb 20, 2011 - 5:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 23, '08 From Muskego,Wi Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Out put shaft
Needle bearing, put a squirt of oil on all move parts and parts being pressed on. It makes things go a lot smoother. Needle bearing on the shaft. 1st gear goes ontop of the needle bearing. 1st gear. Don't loose this little ball bearing! I did and spent 30 minutes crawling on the ground to find it. No ball bearing in the little hole. ball in the hole... easy enough. Unfortunately I was in a hurry and didn't have time to take pictures of me pressing all the gears and bearings on the shafts. Ill print off some diagrams of an exploded view of the input and out put shafts to show how each part goes on. Put the diff back in the case. I didn't check bearing preload because i didn't replace the diff bearings because they all looked brand new. But remember where to put the shims on either side of the diff when you took it apart. Input and out put shaft bearings in and the bearing retainers holding them in. Shift forks. You have to have these connected to the input and output shafts to put everything in the trans correctly. Like so. You slide everything into place. Make sure the shift forks are all lined up and in "neutral" Lets put the reverse gear in. Reverse selector. After i got all this put together i shifted through all the gears and made sure nothing is binding up. If something is you have a problem. Don't just say it'll free up later cause it won't, you'll grenade your trans. Clean all sealing surfaces and lay a nice 1/8"-1/4" bead of rtv (black silicon) and lower the trans case on. It'll be a tight fit so don't be afraid to use a rubber mallet to tap the case into place. -------------------- 2nd Gen 3s-gte.... It lives!
97celiman "92-gt-quit making up random acronyms that dont mean anything. the only real acronym is JDM" |
Feb 20, 2011 - 5:37 PM |
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
nice work tommyboy!!!
should have grabbed a tube of toyota red FIPG from the dealer with all those other parts..its made just for the tranny cases like that and what not. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Feb 20, 2011 - 6:49 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '09 From Westport, MA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
nicee job bro
you didnt put the lsd in right? i may have read it wrong, idk. and how much would a rebuild cost? -------------------- st205 powered ss3 coupe
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Feb 20, 2011 - 10:25 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 23, '08 From Muskego,Wi Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
no lsd i sent it back for a refund. I didn't even think toyota had their own brand of rtv. Next time ill get some lol.
Without 3rd gear, Spent around $350 dollars. I would give you guys part numbers but some syncros very from year to year. I noticed a 96 s54 trans does not have the triple syncro set up for 2nd gear like a 97 does. I have more pictures of putting 5th gear on once i quit being lazy. Anyone have any opinions on what gear lube i should use? I was thinking of that redline shock proof stuff. Havn't heard anything bad about it. -------------------- 2nd Gen 3s-gte.... It lives!
97celiman "92-gt-quit making up random acronyms that dont mean anything. the only real acronym is JDM" |
Feb 20, 2011 - 11:13 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 12, '08 Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
good job.
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