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post May 16, 2010 - 4:28 PM
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iv got nearly everyfin i can get from ipp.com for the 7afe. now i dont have much kwolage on turboin and engine rebuild, i have given the work to a garage 8 month ago and only today he started. cn anyone pls tell me, if engin is out and the head is going for skimming and flywheel balanced and lighted also crank work, cn or should i send anyfin else to the mechin shop??? how long all the job take for engine work and turboin??
post May 16, 2010 - 4:41 PM
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Hi mate smile.gif

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post May 16, 2010 - 5:02 PM
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Don't bother with balancing and any other procedures. You won't gain anything with the 7A-FE. The engine is reliable as it is. Just get the tuning right. Don't go past 15 PSI with a turbo bigger than a T3/TO4B. I had bad experiences with replacement pistons. They just don't hold the power as well as OEM ones. You're better off with original Toyota pistons. Don't skimp on the pistons. Rods are fine. I abused mine and they never gave up. Don't lighten that flywheel. Leave it as it is. Don't bother with all the things that are done to other engines. This engine doesn't benefit from that. Use good oil, good tuning, and good cooling. You do that and the engine will treat you right. Keep the turbo system as simple as possible. My car was faster with less fancy stuff. It felt faster with an A'PEXi S-AFC and small diameter intercooler piping. The more I upgraded, the slower it got. Oh, use an oil restrictor on the oil line. This engine will damage your turbo oil seals from the ridiculously high oil pressure.


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post May 16, 2010 - 7:40 PM
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seen that thanx u. anyinfo on engine rebuild?
post May 16, 2010 - 7:57 PM
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QUOTE (OOBE @ May 16, 2010 - 6:02 PM) *
Don't bother with balancing and any other procedures. You won't gain anything with the 7A-FE. The engine is reliable as it is. Just get the tuning right. Don't go past 15 PSI with a turbo bigger than a T3/TO4B. I had bad experiences with replacement pistons. They just don't hold the power as well as OEM ones. You're better off with original Toyota pistons. Don't skimp on the pistons. Rods are fine. I abused mine and they never gave up. Don't lighten that flywheel. Leave it as it is. Don't bother with all the things that are done to other engines. This engine doesn't benefit from that. Use good oil, good tuning, and good cooling. You do that and the engine will treat you right. Keep the turbo system as simple as possible. My car was faster with less fancy stuff. It felt faster with an A'PEXi S-AFC and small diameter intercooler piping. The more I upgraded, the slower it got. Oh, use an oil restrictor on the oil line. This engine will damage your turbo oil seals from the ridiculously high oil pressure.

i got forged pistons as i was told that the comration ratio or sumin on ome parts will mess up engine.
also conrods are weak so i got pauter ones, which am told are the best. i just want to skim the head so high preformance copper gasket can go on.
here is a list of work which is gona be done.
the turbo is from http://www.prostreetonline.com/pnsku/tc25b1x.asp and was fitted to a celica and i bought it from a guy as he sold his celica standard, he did give me a oilfilter relocation kit as the coroler is a bit dif.
the engines intrnals was from http://www.importperformanceparts.net/impo...pek-toyota.html i also have the conrods from them and toga hv oil pump which i dont av a clue in what it dose.i got a stage 3 6 puk clucth kit.
i dont understand y this will make it slower, iv been reseachin this for a long time i hope i havent wasted time n money.
what is a oil restrictor on the oil line???
post May 16, 2010 - 10:55 PM
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OK, forged pistons and rods? Awesome. Yeah, Pauters hold more power than you will ever make. You can push 900 WHP and they'll hold fine, lol. I didn't mean that they make the car slower. Not those parts. I guess you didn't understand what I meant due to you not being fluent in English. Anyway, you have what you need to make a lot of power. Ignore what I wrote. I thought you were on stock internals. That doesn't apply to you. Just get a good fuel computer and something to control timing. The Toga HV oil pump supposedly is better than OEM, but I read that it's pretty much a shimmed oil pump. Still, it's a good pump, so you can use it. The oil restrictor is a fitting that has a small hole in order to decrease the high oil pressure that goes into the turbo oil feed inlet. The 7A-FE has too much oil pressure and it damages the turbo seals eventually. The restrictor restricts some of that pressure, so your turbo gets the oil it needs in a more gentle way.

Oh, and that turbo is tiny, man. You'll have to push it to get good power out of it, and it'll spool so fast, you'll get a lot of wheelspin. That thing is good for like 250 WHP at most. That won't even tickle the 7A-FE. You're better off with a .50 trim T3/TO4B since you have forged internals. Mine spooled fast and I was automatic.


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post May 17, 2010 - 11:33 AM
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QUOTE (OOBE @ May 16, 2010 - 11:55 PM) *
OK, forged pistons and rods? Awesome. Yeah, Pauters hold more power than you will ever make. You can push 900 WHP and they'll hold fine, lol. I didn't mean that they make the car slower. Not those parts. I guess you didn't understand what I meant due to you not being fluent in English. Anyway, you have what you need to make a lot of power. Ignore what I wrote. I thought you were on stock internals. That doesn't apply to you. Just get a good fuel computer and something to control timing. The Toga HV oil pump supposedly is better than OEM, but I read that it's pretty much a shimmed oil pump. Still, it's a good pump, so you can use it. The oil restrictor is a fitting that has a small hole in order to decrease the high oil pressure that goes into the turbo oil feed inlet. The 7A-FE has too much oil pressure and it damages the turbo seals eventually. The restrictor restricts some of that pressure, so your turbo gets the oil it needs in a more gentle way.

Oh, and that turbo is tiny, man. You'll have to push it to get good power out of it, and it'll spool so fast, you'll get a lot of wheelspin. That thing is good for like 250 WHP at most. That won't even tickle the 7A-FE. You're better off with a .50 trim T3/TO4B since you have forged internals. Mine spooled fast and I was automatic.

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nice one bruv, cn u reccomend me a gud FUEL COMPUTER which will controls timing. yeah the toga oil pump looks jus skimed.
if i get a t3/to4b cn i boost more then 15psi? also where cn i get this from? and yeah soz bot my english. iv only started riteing again since i started on the enging of my car,last time i was doin any riting was in skool.lol.
thank you bro.

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[quote name='OOBE' post='853849' date='May 16, 2010 - 11:55 PM']OK, forged pistons and rods? Awesome. Yeah, Pauters hold more power than you will ever make. You can push 900 WHP and they'll hold fine, lol. I didn't mean that they make the car slower. Not those parts. I guess you didn't understand what I meant due to you not being fluent in English. Anyway, you have what you need to make a lot of power. Ignore what I wrote. I thought you were on stock internals. That doesn't apply to you. Just get a good fuel computer and something to control timing. The Toga HV oil pump supposedly is better than OEM, but I read that it's pretty much a shimmed oil pump. Still, it's a good pump, so you can use it. The oil restrictor is a fitting that has a small hole in order to decrease the high oil pressure that goes into the turbo oil feed inlet. The 7A-FE has too much oil pressure and it damages the turbo seals eventually. The restrictor restricts some of that pressure, so your turbo gets the oil it needs in a more gentle way.

one more think bro my engine is in south walse pistons for crank balancing, flywheel balanced and skimed litley and also the heads being skimed, av i made a rite chose???
post May 17, 2010 - 11:42 AM
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QUOTE (OOBE @ May 16, 2010 - 11:55 PM) *
OK, forged pistons and rods? Awesome. Yeah, Pauters hold more power than you will ever make. You can push 900 WHP and they'll hold fine, lol. I didn't mean that they make the car slower. Not those parts. I guess you didn't understand what I meant due to you not being fluent in English. Anyway, you have what you need to make a lot of power. Ignore what I wrote. I thought you were on stock internals. That doesn't apply to you. Just get a good fuel computer and something to control timing. The Toga HV oil pump supposedly is better than OEM, but I read that it's pretty much a shimmed oil pump. Still, it's a good pump, so you can use it. The oil restrictor is a fitting that has a small hole in order to decrease the high oil pressure that goes into the turbo oil feed inlet. The 7A-FE has too much oil pressure and it damages the turbo seals eventually. The restrictor restricts some of that pressure, so your turbo gets the oil it needs in a more gentle way.

Oh, and that turbo is tiny, man. You'll have to push it to get good power out of it, and it'll spool so fast, you'll get a lot of wheelspin. That thing is good for like 250 WHP at most. That won't even tickle the 7A-FE. You're better off with a .50 trim T3/TO4B since you have forged internals. Mine spooled fast and I was automatic.


will a t3/to4b bolt rite on or will i need to change the flange on the mainfold, is the any other modz or changes ill need to do for the t3/to4b?
post May 17, 2010 - 3:47 PM
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hi glad to see you and i have the same kit from IPP.NET the toga HV oil pump just stays more stable (same psi) it wont die off at high RPM's less likely to fail than OEM... for your tune i would recommend the AEM F/ig* ctrl it has an on board map sensor and does 100% corrections for fuel and also you can tune the timing. it will run you about 400-500 for the tune it self so keep that in mind.... good tuning number one with n/a cars being boosted .... the AEM right now is the best piggy back system for n/a cars heard alot about them plus tunners say there are easier to work with ..... keep us posted on what you end up with and good luck !!
post May 17, 2010 - 4:27 PM
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AEM FIC is nice. Yes. You should get that one. I didn't have problems with my e-Manage and it worked flawlessly, but AEM is one of the top dogs in programmables. If I was doing it again, I would get the AEM FIC.


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post May 17, 2010 - 5:05 PM
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QUOTE (95celicastLSR @ May 17, 2010 - 4:47 PM) *
hi glad to see you and i have the same kit from IPP.NET the toga HV oil pump just stays more stable (same psi) it wont die off at high RPM's less likely to fail than OEM... for your tune i would recommend the AEM F/ig* ctrl it has an on board map sensor and does 100% corrections for fuel and also you can tune the timing. it will run you about 400-500 for the tune it self so keep that in mind.... good tuning number one with n/a cars being boosted .... the AEM right now is the best piggy back system for n/a cars heard alot about them plus tunners say there are easier to work with ..... keep us posted on what you end up with and good luck !!


thanks bro, il put some more pic l8a

QUOTE (OOBE @ May 17, 2010 - 5:27 PM) *
AEM FIC is nice. Yes. You should get that one. I didn't have problems with my e-Manage and it worked flawlessly, but AEM is one of the top dogs in programmables. If I was doing it again, I would get the AEM FIC.


honstly i dont undastand wat the AEM FIC is i seen on youtube, i will look into this, can sumone give me a A to Z for a person with 0% knowlage on this thank you.
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QUOTE (s80heb @ May 17, 2010 - 10:05 PM) *
QUOTE (95celicastLSR @ May 17, 2010 - 4:47 PM) *
hi glad to see you and i have the same kit from IPP.NET the toga HV oil pump just stays more stable (same psi) it wont die off at high RPM's less likely to fail than OEM... for your tune i would recommend the AEM F/ig* ctrl it has an on board map sensor and does 100% corrections for fuel and also you can tune the timing. it will run you about 400-500 for the tune it self so keep that in mind.... good tuning number one with n/a cars being boosted .... the AEM right now is the best piggy back system for n/a cars heard alot about them plus tunners say there are easier to work with ..... keep us posted on what you end up with and good luck !!


thanks bro, il put some more pic l8a

QUOTE (OOBE @ May 17, 2010 - 5:27 PM) *
AEM FIC is nice. Yes. You should get that one. I didn't have problems with my e-Manage and it worked flawlessly, but AEM is one of the top dogs in programmables. If I was doing it again, I would get the AEM FIC.


honstly i dont undastand wat the AEM FIC is i seen on youtube, i will look into this, can sumone give me a A to Z for a person with 0% knowlage on this thank you.
go to AEM's website and look it up AEM F/ig* is what u need to look for or ebay

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QUOTE (s80heb @ May 17, 2010 - 10:05 PM) *
QUOTE (95celicastLSR @ May 17, 2010 - 4:47 PM) *
hi glad to see you and i have the same kit from IPP.NET the toga HV oil pump just stays more stable (same psi) it wont die off at high RPM's less likely to fail than OEM... for your tune i would recommend the AEM F/ig* ctrl it has an on board map sensor and does 100% corrections for fuel and also you can tune the timing. it will run you about 400-500 for the tune it self so keep that in mind.... good tuning number one with n/a cars being boosted .... the AEM right now is the best piggy back system for n/a cars heard alot about them plus tunners say there are easier to work with ..... keep us posted on what you end up with and good luck !!


thanks bro, il put some more pic l8a

QUOTE (OOBE @ May 17, 2010 - 5:27 PM) *
AEM FIC is nice. Yes. You should get that one. I didn't have problems with my e-Manage and it worked flawlessly, but AEM is one of the top dogs in programmables. If I was doing it again, I would get the AEM FIC.


honstly i dont undastand wat the AEM FIC is i seen on youtube, i will look into this, can sumone give me a A to Z for a person with 0% knowlage on this thank you.
go to AEM's website and look it up AEM F/ig* is what u need to look for or ebay


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