Toyotas bungle..., and they keep piling on?! Options

[Random_Stranger]

I subscribed to Toyota USA on youtube... THat's where I keep up to date.

[dabazied]

To add to this (I have the article right here), they also performed 100-0 MPH tests, braking with the throttle fully open. The Camry did it in 435 feet, the G37 convertible in 326, and the Roush Stage 3 Mustang in 903 feet. Although 100-0 is less relevant than 70-0, you don't see that kind of stuff getting on the news either.

well there is a reason behind the 903 feet, its because the roush mustang has a ton of horse power, not because the brakes are bad.

to be honest, i am excited about this toyota fiasco. This mean i can get a used toyota cheap from people who are scared of there toyotas.

I don't understand what hp has to do with braking tests, like going from 100-0 with a 85 hp car and a 850 hp car shouldn't make a difference except with weight and the brakes, correct?

[Hanyo]

To add to this (I have the article right here), they also performed 100-0 MPH tests, braking with the throttle fully open. The Camry did it in 435 feet, the G37 convertible in 326, and the Roush Stage 3 Mustang in 903 feet. Although 100-0 is less relevant than 70-0, you don't see that kind of stuff getting on the news either.

well there is a reason behind the 903 feet, its because the roush mustang has a ton of horse power, not because the brakes are bad.

to be honest, i am excited about this toyota fiasco. This mean i can get a used toyota cheap from people who are scared of there toyotas.

I don't understand what hp has to do with braking tests, like going from 100-0 with a 85 hp car and a 850 hp car shouldn't make a difference except with weight and the brakes, correct?

they are testing how well a car can stop with the throttle pinned to the ground. It would be kinda retarded for a high horsepower mustang to have 903 stopping distance wouldn't it?

This post has been edited by Hanyo: Mar 1, 2010 - 1:59 AM

[dabazied]

To add to this (I have the article right here), they also performed 100-0 MPH tests, braking with the throttle fully open. The Camry did it in 435 feet, the G37 convertible in 326, and the Roush Stage 3 Mustang in 903 feet. Although 100-0 is less relevant than 70-0, you don't see that kind of stuff getting on the news either.

well there is a reason behind the 903 feet, its because the roush mustang has a ton of horse power, not because the brakes are bad.

to be honest, i am excited about this toyota fiasco. This mean i can get a used toyota cheap from people who are scared of there toyotas.

I don't understand what hp has to do with braking tests, like going from 100-0 with a 85 hp car and a 850 hp car shouldn't make a difference except with weight and the brakes, correct?

they are testing how well a car can stop with the throttle pinned to the ground. It would be kinda retarded for a high horsepower mustang to have 903 stopping distance wouldn't it?

Didn't see that part, but yeah, that makes a world of difference.

[CAMAricer]

well there is a reason behind the 903 feet, its because the roush mustang has a ton of horse power, not because the brakes are bad.

This.

This post has been edited by CAMAricer: Mar 1, 2010 - 2:31 AM

[easternpiro1]

To add to this (I have the article right here), they also performed 100-0 MPH tests, braking with the throttle fully open. The Camry did it in 435 feet, the G37 convertible in 326, and the Roush Stage 3 Mustang in 903 feet. Although 100-0 is less relevant than 70-0, you don't see that kind of stuff getting on the news either.

well there is a reason behind the 903 feet, its because the roush mustang has a ton of horse power, not because the brakes are bad.

to be honest, i am excited about this toyota fiasco. This mean i can get a used toyota cheap from people who are scared of there toyotas.

I never thought of it that way!!! hmmmmm (plotting and schemeing... as scared as old people are of obama, i can convince them that their toyota is satan as well!!)

well there is a reason behind the 903 feet, its because the roush mustang has a ton of horse power, not because the brakes are bad.

This.

and what is that "this." mean? im a square... i have an idea, but enlighten me further lol

[Galcobar]

"This"

Possible translations: This is an accurate answer/response. Pay attention to this post. I agree with this.

[hatchy_gt-s]

Off topic kind of but...
Honda is having a recall for their Accord, Civic, Odyssey, CR-V, and Acura TL because of airbags deploying.






CHEVY IS RECALLING THEIR CARS DUE TO POWER-STEERING GOING OUT!!!!!!!!
the pontiac g5 and the colbalt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H2AeZhHaV4
eat **** chevy, there goes that an extra $1000 for your toyota from gm.

This post has been edited by hatchy_gt-s: Mar 2, 2010 - 10:45 AM

[Hanyo]

update:

apparently the recall has not worked. Some owners still feel the pedal get stuck, and the ecu brake over ride flashing doesn't work all the time.

[GriffGirl]

update:

apparently the recall has not worked. Some owners still feel the pedal get stuck, and the ecu brake over ride flashing doesn't work all the time.

It's too soon to tell though if the recall has not worked. Toyota is looking into it, and IIRC it's a VERY small number of people who have made claims that they're still having the same problem. It could totally be psychosomatic. Call it "automotive hypochondria" perhaps?

[hatchy_gt-s]

update:

apparently the recall has not worked. Some owners still feel the pedal get stuck, and the ecu brake over ride flashing doesn't work all the time.

It's too soon to tell though if the recall has not worked. Toyota is looking into it, and IIRC it's a VERY small number of people who have made claims that they're still having the same problem. It could totally be psychosomatic. Call it "automotive hypochondria" perhaps?

The other problem is people are saying that they are having problems 2 get their 5 seconds of fame. Toyota is checking the black box on the "new issues" and finding some to be false claims.

[kormysh8]

IMO there all false claims. these people are just scaring themselves and making them think there busting, but really its all driver error.. hopefully thats the case lol

[keison2000]

I think the media needs to stop picking on toyota when there are many recalls by several different big automakers...

[hatchy_gt-s]

IMO there all false claims. these people are just scaring themselves and making them think there busting, but really its all driver error.. hopefully thats the case lol

Actually no they are a problem, I have drive 8 of them that have gone to wide open throttle and I know I can drive

[GMan]

> hatchy_gt-s
> '99 GT-S Hatchback
> From covington, KY
> Actually no they are a problem, I have drive 8 of them that have gone to wide open throttle and I know I can drive

Could you elaborate ?

Seems to me to be the " Audi Unintended acceleration" all over again ?
Possibly; drivers Thinking they are pressing the brakes when they are pressing the gas pedal ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_unintended_acceleration

Even IF the car went open throttle, the brakes can still stop (At Least slow ) the car ?
I have the Mar. '10 issue of Car and Driver. " Runaway Toyotas "

Run away Toyotas

"brakes are stronger than the engine"

How many drivers on the board think 90mph is "unsafe" ?
Oh the Crazy Trans-Warp speed !

Regards;
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This post has been edited by GMan: Mar 16, 2010 - 3:56 PM

[tankd0g]

"Unintended acceleration" is one of the more popular complaints on the NHTSA site, it all kicked off for Toyota a few years ago when some guy in Texas ran his Tacoma through a store front and blamed the ghost in the machine. At the time, the F150 has many more unintended acceleration complaints on the site than the Tacoma, in spite of this the press manufactured an epidemic and Toyota initiated a huge floor mat recall. A few years later and we have a cop and his family in California killed in a loaner Lexus when the pedal sticks due to an incorrect length floor mat being installed. Toyota should have said, hang on right there, this **** isn't our fault, a dealer put a mat from an SUV in that car and that caused the crash.

Instead they recall floor mats in just about everything they make, for the second time. Fine, maybe the clips they were using were not up to snuff, it's worth noting however that no car I have owned from 1989 to 2001 even had any sort of clip to secure the floor mats and I'm still around to tell the tale. The Lexus in question does have one of those stupid push button starts, which should be abolished, but no one is talking about that. If you want a push button start like a race car, then you should have a push button kill switch like a race car.

So the US government now owns GM and suddenly there's a televised senate hearing where Toyota has to defend itself against complaints that GM has just as many of if not more. Coincidence? Farce is more like it. What does Toyota do? Caves in again and releases some sort of product update where they stick a wedge of scrap metal in your pedal to prevent a failure they know doesn't exist. Now the loonies are really coming out of the woodwork, I saw a prius driver in California on TV yesterday who claimed his pedal was stuck to the floor, as he lead police on a 90mph chase while taking to 911. Funny then, isn't it, that the pedal magically became unstuck when the police had him boxed in and he was able to stop without incident. The guy's interview was some of the worst acting I've seen come out of California since Leno claimed he had nothing to do with bumping Conan.

This post has been edited by tankd0g: Mar 11, 2010 - 7:46 PM

[easternpiro1]

"Unintended acceleration" is one of the more popular complaints on the NHTSA site, it all kicked off for Toyota a few years ago when some guy in Texas ran his Tacoma through a store front and blamed the ghost in the machine. At the time, the F150 has many more unintended acceleration complaints on the site than the Tacoma, in spite of this the press manufactured an epidemic and Toyota initiated a huge floor mat recall. A few years later and we have a cop and his family in California killed in a loaner Lexus when the pedal sticks due to an incorrect length floor mat being installed. Toyota should have said, hang on right there, this **** isn't our fault, a dealer put a mat from an SUV in that car and that caused the crash.

Instead they recall floor mats in just about everything they make, for the second time. Fine, maybe the clips they were using were not up to snuff, it's worth noting however that no car I have owned from 1989 to 2001 even had any sort of clip to secure the floor mats and I'm still around to tell the tale. The Lexus in question does have one of those stupid push button starts, which should be abolished, but no one is talking about that. If you want a push button start like a race car, then you should have a push button kill switch like a race car.

So the US government now owns GM and suddenly there's a televised senate hearing where Toyota has to defend itself against complaints that GM has just as many of if not more. Coincidence? Farce is more like it. What does Toyota do? Caves in again and releases some sort of product update where they stick a wedge of scrap metal in your pedal to prevent a failure they know doesn't exist. Now the loonies are really coming out of the woodwork, I saw a prius driver in California on TV yesterday who claimed his pedal was stuck to the floor, as he lead police on a 90mph chase while taking to 911. Funny then, isn't it, that the pedal magically became unstuck when the police had him boxed in and he was able to stop without incident. The guy's interview was some of the worst acting I've seen come out of California since Leno claimed he had nothing to do with bumping Conan.

THIS.

[Goonter]

"THIS" .. LOL straight up in capital letters.