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You might be asking yourself, "Self, how does a person who just sold their Celica make a progress thread for a Celica?" The answer is easy: you go buy another Celica. So I picked up a '96 GT hatchback with a blown engine.
The story: My brother's friend got the car brand new in '97. It's a '96 model though... gotta wait until the end of the year so you can get a good deal on a car! So back in 1997, a slate gray Celica pulls into my driveway. I've never seen one before. My brother is always telling me about how fast the car is. Flash forward a few years and I find myself with a '96 ST sitting in my garage and I find out that my brother lied to me and that these cars aren't fast at all. So here I am, 3 Celicas and a Lexus IS 300 later, and I miss my Celica. I had my hopes up for a swap and a GT4 front end conversion. So what did I do? I called Marc tonight and asked him about his old Celica. I knew he never changed the oil and never even checked it. I knew he blew the engine up. Tranny is still good, body is still good. New brakes and tires. Even has good blades on the windshield wipers. So tonight I call him and ask if he still has the car and he said he'd let it go for $250. I was there in 30 minutes with a check in hand. The car I grew up watching, the Celica that made me love Celicas, is now mine. Forgive the bad pictures, since it was night before I got there to buy the car. Better pictures coming later. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Like I said, the motor is blown. Not a big deal since I am doing a swap anyway. It was lady driven at first, and ladies suck at driving (no offense, ladies.) So she cracked the skirts and had a body shop remove them. No big deal since I am putting TRD skirts on. The car needs paint. No big deal since I was painting it anyway. Needs a new head unit... You get the idea. That's literally the extent of things that are wrong with the car. Everything else is in good shape. Plans for the car... I'm still undecided. It's definitely getting a 3S, whether it's a BEAMS or a 3rd gen -GTE. So... here I am, 6gc. It was a long month without a Celica, but I'm back and I'm here to stay. ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ _ __________ Update: 5S-FE to BEAMS 3S-GE wiring explained with pictures: • EA1 Plug: Pins 17 and 4 need to be bridged. Pin 17 needs power when pin 4 has it. Pin 17 is in the lower left corner, black w/red trace. Pin 4 is the big black wire at the top, center of the plug. Doing this gives the BEAMS spark. Pin 17 coming off of the EA1 plug can be snipped and covered up, left alone. (See picture 1.) • EA1 Plug: Pins 2 and 12 need to be bridged. They are both ground wires, white w/black trace. (See picture 1.) • Clutch start wire: Black w/yellow trace. This one is a bit tricky to explain. There are 3 vertical plugs next to the ECU. On the body side of the plugs, you have a white (19 pin) plug, light gray (13 pin) plug, and dark gray (17 pin) plug. The clutch start wire is pin 18 on the white plug. Move it to pin 17 on the dark gray plug. (Refer to picture 2.) • If using your OEM tach and a tach adapter, you'll need to intercept the tach signal going from the ECU to the gauges. This comes from plug C, wire 27 on the ECU plugs. It's a gray wire. (Refer to picture 3.) • Cruise control wiring: I have a 1998 USDM Celica. In my case, no wiring changes were necessary and my cruise control works perfectly. I believe that this is standard across the board of USDM Celicas, although some pre-98 models may still require changes. Further research from others is necessary. • Airbag light: To get your airbag light to function properly, you run a wire from the EA1 plug to the light gray interior plug (either pin 4 or pin 5, I have read separate posts saying both and I chose not to do this step so I cannot confirm which pin it is.) Picture 1. EA1 plug: At the top, pins 2 and 12 are bridged together. These are grounds. In the middle with the yellow butt connector, you can see pins 17 and 4 bridged together, red w/black trace and plain black wire. At the bottom of the picture, you can see the unused and covered wire that used to be pin 17. ![]() Picture 2. Body plugs next to the ECU. Here you can see the clutch start wire in the bottom left corner, black w/yellow trace. ![]() Picture 3. Plug C, wire 27. This is the tach signal wire that needs to be intercepted for a tach signal adapter.
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richee3 Richee3's Progress thread. Apr 5, 2010 - 10:22 PM
njccmd2002 My maf holder is 80mm outside diameter, so i had t... Jul 14, 2011 - 10:34 PM
BonzaiCelica no way. MR2 and Celica use different boxes.... I b... Jul 14, 2011 - 10:48 PM
njccmd2002 ok you posted while i was editing... there happy... Jul 14, 2011 - 11:15 PM
njccmd2002 it is 71 to 72 mm, you were right i was wrong....... Jul 14, 2011 - 11:24 PM
celica-s nice project. i envy you guys, only if i have the ... Jul 15, 2011 - 1:24 AM
BonzaiCelica QUOTE (celica-s @ Jul 15, 2011 - 1... Jul 15, 2011 - 7:48 PM
stephen_lee Buy a project celica like richee and I did. Jul 15, 2011 - 12:25 PM
celica-s that's not what i meant,
if it ain't bro... Jul 16, 2011 - 12:07 AM
richee3 The interior diameter of the intake pipe, as I und... Jul 16, 2011 - 1:03 PM
JuMPiiN Damn youve had some bad luck man! Jul 16, 2011 - 6:52 PM
njccmd2002 i can pull the #3 plug out in mine to see. but i... Jul 16, 2011 - 7:30 PM
richee3 My Greytop had the same issue. Oil on the spark pl... Jul 16, 2011 - 8:04 PM
Batman722 you're valve cover gasket is not tight or it... Jul 16, 2011 - 8:45 PM
malecrod I second checking the valve gasket first. I had t... Jul 16, 2011 - 9:19 PM
richee3 The same day Dustin posted that link, somebody els... Jul 19, 2011 - 6:51 PM
malecrod Sounds like a vacuum leak? I will double check all... Jul 19, 2011 - 7:34 PM
richee3 Will do. Thanks, Eli. I hadn't even considered... Jul 19, 2011 - 7:55 PM
bloodMoney Fantastic. I'm glad things are starting to com... Jul 19, 2011 - 8:18 PM
richee3 I'm still waiting on the valve cover gasket to... Jul 24, 2011 - 10:47 AM
stephen_lee good luck man! Jul 24, 2011 - 12:26 PM
richee3 I just remembered... When I relocated the battery,... Jul 24, 2011 - 2:39 PM
stephen_lee thats a ground loop issue. make sure all the groun... Jul 24, 2011 - 3:11 PM
richee3 I actually checked my grounds, unless there are a ... Jul 24, 2011 - 7:19 PM
stephen_lee theres one on the intake manifold, and then both f... Jul 24, 2011 - 8:08 PM
richee3 Nope, none hiding from me then. Everything is hook... Jul 25, 2011 - 8:39 AM
ricochet1490 Sounds to me like your Dad owes you a battery, or ... Jul 25, 2011 - 2:40 PM
stephen_lee i wouldnt say so.. as a parent dad probably did we... Jul 25, 2011 - 3:27 PM
richee3 Yes and no. He's done a lot for me, there... Jul 25, 2011 - 5:24 PM
Keiri QUOTE (richee3 @ Jul 25, 2011 - 6:24... Jul 25, 2011 - 6:30 PM
ricochet1490 QUOTE (richee3 @ Jul 25, 2011 - 6:24... Jul 25, 2011 - 8:39 PM
richee3 Well guys, welcome me back to the 3L2 club. I boug... Jul 26, 2011 - 7:22 AM
stephen_lee does it just need trans fluid? my red celica i bou... Jul 26, 2011 - 8:48 AM
richee3 No idea. It's very possible. I'll check wh... Jul 26, 2011 - 9:24 AM
Keiri QUOTE (richee3 @ Jul 26, 2011 - 10:2... Jul 26, 2011 - 9:36 AM
njccmd2002 hey, where did the red car come from.... Jul 26, 2011 - 10:00 AM
richee3 Part of me is hoping that the red car just needs f... Jul 26, 2011 - 10:27 AM
stephen_lee I'd hope it was just the fluid so I can have a... Jul 26, 2011 - 4:17 PM
richee3 It's not the fluid. I asked the guy earlier an... Jul 26, 2011 - 6:41 PM
Keiri QUOTE (richee3 @ Jul 26, 2011 - 7:41... Jul 26, 2011 - 7:16 PM
SwissFerdi Congratulations VB, and good luck. Jul 26, 2011 - 8:37 PM
richee3 Brought the car home tonight. It's in better s... Jul 27, 2011 - 10:11 PM
richee3 Got the valve cover gasket for the BEAMS in today.... Jul 28, 2011 - 9:19 PM
mkernz22 check the axles and make sure that it didn't b... Jul 29, 2011 - 1:44 AM
stephen_lee thats what i though as well. it might also have br... Jul 29, 2011 - 8:57 AM
njccmd2002 you can even put a new tranny in it and sell it fo... Jul 29, 2011 - 10:02 AM
richee3 I have literally no experience with diagnosing or ... Jul 29, 2011 - 10:36 AM
Batman722 pick up an auto tranny, swap it in, clean the car ... Jul 29, 2011 - 10:39 AM
Keiri QUOTE (Batman722 @ Jul 29, 2011 - 11... Jul 29, 2011 - 2:48 PM
richee3 I considered that. But I paid $1,500 for the ... Jul 29, 2011 - 9:52 PM
Batman722 The Beams is clean
My wife did the valve cover g... Jul 29, 2011 - 10:08 PM
richee3 QUOTE (Batman722 @ Jul 29, 2011 - 10... Jul 29, 2011 - 10:24 PM
stephen_lee refer to THIS THREAD to help with your ecu not get... Jul 30, 2011 - 10:19 AM
richee3 Thanks, Stephen.
I started the BEAMS up this morn... Jul 30, 2011 - 12:32 PM
bloodMoney I'm telling you. Pull the tank, drain that ... Jul 30, 2011 - 12:38 PM
richee3 It's got just a little more than half a tank i... Jul 30, 2011 - 12:57 PM
stephen_lee 21-24oz. Two cans should fill it up, but I have no... Jul 30, 2011 - 1:31 PM
njccmd2002 like this...
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?... Jul 30, 2011 - 1:44 PM
richee3 Yeah, I should probably replace that compressor th... Jul 30, 2011 - 3:17 PM
stephen_lee try running 12v to the compressor clutch & see... Jul 30, 2011 - 7:34 PM
richee3 Haha Stephen.. I know nothing about a/c compressor... Jul 30, 2011 - 8:11 PM
richee3 Great success! I had a fresh pair of eyes look... Jul 31, 2011 - 6:02 PM
stephen_lee Try swapping the coil with a different coil to see... Jul 31, 2011 - 6:10 PM
richee3 Already did. The misfire stayed on cylinder 3. I c... Jul 31, 2011 - 6:59 PM
stephen_lee good luck with that. u can also swap fuel injector... Jul 31, 2011 - 7:54 PM
bloodMoney ^this.
If the plug is still bright silver, that ... Jul 31, 2011 - 10:06 PM
richee3 We checked for spark. There was nothing. Running i... Jul 31, 2011 - 10:15 PM
bloodMoney hmmmm. Ok. Nevermind then lol Aug 1, 2011 - 7:31 AM
njccmd2002 so there is no spark?
check the grounds..... you ... Aug 1, 2011 - 10:09 AM
richee3 Only on cylinder 3. Unfortunately, I'll be rum... Aug 1, 2011 - 12:12 PM
njccmd2002 if i recall correclty the coils have a ground and ... Aug 1, 2011 - 1:16 PM
stephen_lee im pretty sure its a ground switching system. most... Aug 1, 2011 - 1:30 PM
richee3 I can't say I have a multimeter. Just a crappy... Aug 1, 2011 - 3:57 PM
richee3 Got the exhaust leak fixed, at least. I just teste... Aug 1, 2011 - 5:38 PM
stephen_lee i didnt look at the wiring diagram so i thought th... Aug 1, 2011 - 6:17 PM
richee3 I'm actually going to Harbor Freight tomorrow,... Aug 1, 2011 - 6:21 PM
njccmd2002 make sure the bridges you made in the ea1 plug are... Aug 1, 2011 - 6:33 PM
stephen_lee the ignitor is internal to the coil
looks like...... Aug 1, 2011 - 6:37 PM
stephen_lee pin 3 IGT is a +5v signal Aug 1, 2011 - 7:04 PM
richee3 Noberto- the connection is good. If it's bad, ... Aug 1, 2011 - 8:49 PM
Celisauras16 Well... I enjoy making fun of him more than I like... Aug 2, 2011 - 10:05 PM
Keiri QUOTE (Celisauras16 @ Aug 2, 2011 - 11... Aug 2, 2011 - 10:15 PM
richee3 True story. As of tonight, the BEAMS is on all fou... Aug 2, 2011 - 10:19 PM
Keiri *generous round of clapping*
Well done, my good m... Aug 2, 2011 - 10:29 PM
Batman722 about time bro !
Always something simple and ... Aug 2, 2011 - 11:05 PM
stephen_lee good job on the swap!
yeah thats a piece of ... Aug 3, 2011 - 8:07 AM
njccmd2002 i could just come and slap u. Good to hear anoth... Aug 3, 2011 - 10:46 AM
richee3 I suspect that's what happened to the red car.... Aug 3, 2011 - 10:51 AM
cheela congrats! now put up videos! hahahaah Aug 3, 2011 - 11:50 AM
ricochet1490 I am/have been living vicariously through this thr... Aug 3, 2011 - 2:47 PM
richee3 Chee La, I think the videos are best saved for tex... Aug 3, 2011 - 2:54 PM
ricochet1490 I'm currently around 5 hours from Chicago, dep... Aug 3, 2011 - 4:29 PM
richee3 It's a pretty long drive for you then, and the... Aug 3, 2011 - 4:53 PM
stephen_lee i would make the drive.. if my v6 was done.. damni... Aug 3, 2011 - 5:02 PM
bloodMoney You should. It was about 4 hours for us to get to ... Aug 3, 2011 - 5:47 PM
stephen_lee QUOTE (bloodMoney @ Aug 3, 2011 - 5... Aug 3, 2011 - 8:07 PM
Keiri QUOTE (richee3 @ Aug 3, 2011 - 3:54 ... Aug 3, 2011 - 6:37 PM
richee3 QUOTE (Keiri @ Aug 3, 2011 - 6:37 PM... Aug 3, 2011 - 6:43 PM
richee3 As promised, here is a quick how-to for swapping a... Aug 3, 2011 - 7:37 PM
Keiri This makes me want to do a swap so much more now. ... Aug 3, 2011 - 8:14 PM
ricochet1490 I totally agree with ^ - the 1800 for the motor an... Aug 3, 2011 - 8:25 PM![]() ![]() |
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