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 Jun 19, 2010 - 6:14 PM
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this may be a dumb question but i've been looking around for awhile now and havn't had much help finding a close manual 5 speed tranny for my 7a but i was wondering if a 5s tranny would bolt up to a 7a engine? any help would be great. thanks guys
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2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jun 19, 2010 - 6:15 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '09 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
No.
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Jun 19, 2010 - 6:17 PM
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thats really unfortunate. there are so many around here it isn't even funny. it sucks that i can't even find one compared to the 50 5s trannys
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2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jun 21, 2010 - 9:02 AM
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i cant confirm but i have heard that the C60 in the 7th gen Celica bolt pattern is very close. you might be able to make that work. and its a 6 speed
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Jun 21, 2010 - 9:51 AM
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Hmm really? if anyone can confirm this that'd be kind of awesome.
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2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jun 21, 2010 - 9:52 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '09 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
I've heard that before as well. Be my guinea pig and do it.
-------------------- '97 ST \ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+ [sold 10/18]
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Jun 21, 2010 - 9:53 AM
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hmmm... its very tempting.. it would be kinda sweet to have a 6 speed. ha
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2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jun 21, 2010 - 10:14 AM
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Jun 21, 2010 - 10:02 AM)  i cant confirm but i have heard that the C60 in the 7th gen Celica bolt pattern is very close. you might be able to make that work. and its a 6 speed its close but not worth it in my opinion to be running like dat |
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Jun 21, 2010 - 12:32 PM
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really? ha. seems like itd be pretty sweet to me, but i'm just looking to get rid of my auto tranny and go back to standard transmission ha. miss it
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2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jun 21, 2010 - 4:51 PM
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it'll bolt up. but the ratios wont be...optimal. it'll work, though.
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Jun 21, 2010 - 5:07 PM
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what kinda gas milage do you think you'd get with a six speed tranny bolted to a 7a?
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2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jun 22, 2010 - 12:47 PM
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The c160 (ae111 6 speed) and c60 (zzt231 6 speed) will both bolt up fine.
Ratios: Trans 1st. 2nd. 3rd. 4th. 5th. 6th. Final. C56 3.16 1.90 1.39 1.03 .81 n/a 4.31 C60 3.16 2.05 1.48 1.16 .91 .72 4.52 C160 is identical to the C60 -------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Jun 22, 2010 - 12:54 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '09 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
So would the C60 be a good match for the 7A-FE, or for a 7A-FTE setup for that matter? Those ratios mean nothing to me. I'll do some research, but maybe somebody can already shed some light?
This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Jun 22, 2010 - 12:55 PM -------------------- '97 ST \ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+ [sold 10/18]
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Jun 22, 2010 - 12:57 PM
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i'd also like to know the same as what ferdi asked... in the future i'd love to turbo my 7a, and i'd also love to have a 6 speed trans. . so would that work out okay? thanksss
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2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jun 22, 2010 - 1:56 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
At 3000rpm on the c160/60
With a generalized tire size of 205/50R-16 In MPH 1 15 2 23 3 32 4 40 5 52 6 66 6th gear @ 3.5k - 77 And I'm not doing the math on a C56, if you guys don't know then you have problems. -------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Jun 22, 2010 - 2:01 PM
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wow, for real? how can it be that bad?
that really upsets me haha -------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jun 22, 2010 - 2:08 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
That's pretty on par with the S54.
-------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Jun 22, 2010 - 2:12 PM
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i feel retarded . i definatley read that last set wrong haha.
any ideas how it would hold up to being turboed? -------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jun 22, 2010 - 2:25 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '09 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Thanks Matt. Might I ask how you arrived at those figures so I can do it myself in the future?
-------------------- '97 ST \ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+ [sold 10/18]
'93 MX-5 LE |
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Jun 22, 2010 - 2:41 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
1. Wikipedia for ratios and final drives
2. Googled ratio speed calculator 3. Input data 4. ............ 5. Profit! And for giggles: C56 at the variables above: 1 15 2 26 3 35 4 48 5 61 At 3.5k 71 S54 1 15 2 26 3 39 4 50 5 62 At 3.5k 73 -------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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