Throttle body coolant hose bypass?, anyone done this? |
Throttle body coolant hose bypass?, anyone done this? |
Jul 16, 2010 - 8:06 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 23, '05 From Kansas City Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
So I was talking with a friend at work about cars, and we were talking about pulling my throttle body to clean it since I've had some issues lately, but he said while I have it off I should leave the coolant hoses that go to it disconnected and that will help reduce intake air temperature.
Any gains from doing this? Only thing I can find online is that it will cause problems during the winter, but even those reviews seem to be mixed. -------------------- 1999 Celica GT
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Jul 16, 2010 - 8:35 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 10, '06 From Greensburg,PA Currently Offline Reputation: 27 (94%) |
what coolant lines?
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Jul 16, 2010 - 8:39 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 28, '09 From York pa Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
So I was talking with a friend at work about cars, and we were talking about pulling my throttle body to clean it since I've had some issues lately, but he said while I have it off I should leave the coolant hoses that go to it disconnected and that will help reduce intake air temperature. Any gains from doing this? Only thing I can find online is that it will cause problems during the winter, but even those reviews seem to be mixed. i know spider77 just did this im sure you will see gains but probably nothing too crazy |
Jul 16, 2010 - 9:01 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
if you have cold winters and high humidity, you might freeze your throttle open/closed. you're basically "decompressing" or reducing the pressure of the air as it passes into your intake... which causes quite a decrease in temp. if at all possible, put a valve on one of the coolant lines(or both), so you can open it and have functionality of the throttle defrost as Toyota intended if you ever have the 'frosting' issue.
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
Jul 16, 2010 - 9:01 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 15, '02 From Tasmania(Australia) Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i disconnected mine way way back when.
whats the lowest temp you get where you are (ie freezing) the idea of it is to heat up a little wax pallet, this opens a valve and lets air into your engine so it idles cold. If your not in an overly cold climate then its not such an issue. -------------------- ST205 Group A Rallye GT-Four, #61 of 77............600hp GT3582r
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Jul 16, 2010 - 9:08 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
im going to completely remove this system from my V6 swap as i live in south tx and it doesnt get cold here lol. cut the nipples and weld the holes closed.. may even put in an electric heater and do away with the heater core and the associated lines... we'll see
that idea was replaced with the IAC valve, an electronic control the does the same function i disconnected mine way way back when.
whats the lowest temp you get where you are (ie freezing) the idea of it is to heat up a little wax pallet, this opens a valve and lets air into your engine so it idles cold. If your not in an overly cold climate then its not such an issue. -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
Jul 16, 2010 - 10:23 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '08 From JB MDL, NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 30 (100%) |
I just did this with my 5S last weekend. All I did was purchase two hose clamps (almost typed "clams"), and a 5/16 barbed brass connector. Took off the coolant lines, threw the hose clamps on either (by that I mean both) side, inserted barb connector, and tightened hose clamps. You could use a 3/8 connector, but I found it to be a bit too tight (as I couldn't get the hose flush). Now you could hook up valves and what not, but it only takes about 10 min to swap it back and forth, so whats the need? Unless your that lazy I suppose.
But really it isn't that hard to do. And when the weather here starts getting rough I'll just put it all back together and wait till it warms up enough. |
Jul 17, 2010 - 5:21 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 23, '05 From Kansas City Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Thanks for the input guys. I think I'll at least give it a try since it's been so hot here lately.
Winters here get pretty cold, every now and then we dip into the single digits, but the air is usually very dry (I get a lot of static shocks on things all over the place). I've read about some people having issues, and other people going for years driving in the snow with the lines bypassed. Most likely I'll put a valve in the line to make it easy to switch. -------------------- 1999 Celica GT
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Jul 17, 2010 - 6:34 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '04 From Newport, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 63 (99%) |
I've had mine bypassed on my 3s for a few years now.
No problems in any weather. -------------------- |
Jul 17, 2010 - 6:37 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '08 From JB MDL, NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 30 (100%) |
See, it must be one of things that everyone does, but no one talks about......
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Jul 19, 2010 - 10:32 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
See, it must be one of things that everyone does, but no one talks about...... Could you explain to me what this does, other than make the motor idle cooler? -------------------- taking too long to mod since '09
June '12 COTM '95 AT200 |
Jul 19, 2010 - 1:56 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
lowers intake temp slightly. lower temp = denser air = more power. you gain a tiny amount of power (<1hp)
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
Jul 19, 2010 - 1:58 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
it doesnt do anything. it removes the slight possibility of having warmer air from hot water flowing through it entering the engine. its purpose os to prevent the TB from freezing up in extreme cold. bypassing the TB just cleans things up a little
-------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
Jul 19, 2010 - 2:01 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
Soo... how does it get bypassed?
-------------------- taking too long to mod since '09
June '12 COTM '95 AT200 |
Jul 19, 2010 - 2:05 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 28, '10 From Columbia, South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Connect the two hoses directly to each other using a coupler, and 2 hose clamps, rather than connecting them to the TB.
-------------------- 1994 Celica GT, coupe, 5 speed. Front strut brace, cherrybomb glasspack, intake. |
Jul 19, 2010 - 2:12 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
or just cap them off at the water neck
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
Jul 19, 2010 - 2:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
I see. I guess if I decide to mess with it, I can ask Spider77. He's pretty close to me
-------------------- taking too long to mod since '09
June '12 COTM '95 AT200 |
Jul 19, 2010 - 4:19 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '08 From JB MDL, NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 30 (100%) |
Yea he is, its real simple man.
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Jul 20, 2010 - 12:19 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 23, '05 From Kansas City Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Working on capping them right now. Have the TB off the car, just finished cleaning it up, it was a MESS, I'd seen dirty TB's before but this was a really thick, chunky build up of stuff. No wonder I was having throttle sticking problems. Looks like I might make myself an oil catch can and someday clean my whole intake manifold too.
Should get it finished up pretty quick after I sit in the air conditioning for a bit, it's HOT out in the garage! -------------------- 1999 Celica GT
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Jul 20, 2010 - 10:45 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 29, '05 From Muskego, WI Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I had mine bypassed; untill i had to engine swap
double male barb and 2 hose clamps Celi made it though like 2 winters here in WI, sub zero quite a bit; I wouldn't worry about it too much. |
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