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 Nov 25, 2003 - 5:04 AM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
As usual, we get our monthly spurts of questions pertaining to the 3S-GTE swap and what else one will need to complete it. BEFORE any of you new guys continue asking should you get, what else will you need, or what not, let me recommend you all do this:
1. Research. This is by far the best advice anyone will be able to give you here. A lot of information has been posted. If you have questions that HAVE NOT been answered, then ask. 2. Funds. If you don't have the funds, are no where near having the funds, or are one of those people saying "I SHOULD be ready by next summer", there's a good chance that you won't be performing this swap for quite A WHILE. I know that you are all intrigued by the infamous 3S-GTE, but not to waste our time by asking the same questions over and over again. BE PREPARED. I'd recommend having about $4000 saved up in your savings for the JUST IN CASE situations. TRUST ME. There's nothing I hate more than things coming up unexpectedly and the shop telling me... OH NO... this won't work, we're going to need X part from Y car because Z is not compatible. 3. Patience. Be prepared for some serious downtime. If you have a ST, be EXTRA prepared! Once my swap is complete, I'll supply as much info as I can to ensure a smooth installation. I don't want to see anymore people encounter problems like what I've gone through. Just when I thought my swap was just about complete and that I wouldn't need to purchase anything else, I just found out this past weekend that I'm going to need an accelerator cable, power steering high pressure line, power steering pump, and A/C lines all from a GT. And you know what... THIS FREAKIN SUX! I don't mind spending the money for things that are necessary... BUT I would like to be prepared. Since Christmas is coming up, it would be nice to have money to spend on people, rather than on my car. Well, that's it for now. If others would like to add to this... feel free... I you want to bash... go for it... I don't care anymore... There's nothing anybody can say or do that'll phase me... I'm already numb from all the frustration and grief this project has caused me and all the other drama that is happening concurrently in my life. |
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Nov 25, 2003 - 9:00 AM
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 Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
good call man...and good luck w/ your ride..hope it all works out for ya!
-------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Nov 25, 2003 - 12:37 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 10, '03 From FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i understand that some questions are being asked time after time, but if you dont like it then ignore them. I asked questions when i was new here and people answered them, now that other people ask them, i like to answer them. Simply ignore them if you dont want to read it, because sometimes it is nearly impossible to find something among the hundreds of threads on these boards.
but good luck with your swap |
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Nov 25, 2003 - 1:07 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Kuya i kno what ur going thru, just keep ur head up man,
IT'll ALL BE WORTH IT I PROMISE!! -------------------- |
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Nov 25, 2003 - 2:33 PM
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sup Kuya, Yo , i know EXACTLY what you're going through. I started my swap in June and it's been all drama ever since. I thought I WAS prepared, but something always comes up. I just had to buy the power stearing preasure line from a gt, too. Now all that's left to finish my car is the passenger side axel from a 94 celica GT, and the resistor pack from a st185. Just those two parts alone are giving me a headache. Specially the resistor pack. I have been looking for it EVERYWHERE, and nobody has it. My car is just sitting there in my garage waiting to get done. I see it every single day and it just gets me more pissed off. At one point i was ready to go take it into the alley and set it on fire. But then a few buddies talked me out of it. It's complete HELL. But now i just wanna finish it. And like you said, christmas is just arround the corner, and that's just not helping the situation. Well, i guess i'll keep you all updated too. Just take Kuya's advice. Plan this real good. Be prepared to spend a lot of money, and be very patient. Oh, and another thing. I am one of those LUCKY ones who is doing the swap on a ST, not a GT and OMG. HEADACHE. sphinx. Southern Cali. --- South Central Los Angeles --- |
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Nov 25, 2003 - 4:52 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
I have an extra fuel pump resistor pack if you would want it. Its not necessary to have so I left mine out. The solenoid tho, your car wont start with out it, and it plugs right into the harness.
Oh and I got my solenoid from Toysport (you take them as u find them). This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Nov 25, 2003 - 4:54 PM -------------------- |
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Nov 25, 2003 - 5:41 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yup... it's definitely been complete hell. I've been CAR-less (not careless) since June 2002. Everytime I asked ELP if I needed to get anything else... they would say no. Then a couple months would pass, and they would tell me that I'm going to need this... that... this... that. Everytime they told me that nothing else was needed, I would adjust my budget so that I could go all out and get some high quality parts (i.e. Blitz SBC-iD and Power-iD). Then when they would tell me that a certain part is needed, I would have to wait for the next couple paychecks because I blew everything on other parts. I'm telling you, this vicious cycle was a beyatch!! I thought I had my budget all planned out, but having the shop turn around and tell me that I need more parts just fudges things up for me. Well, all I know is that these parts should be the last. If they tell me that I need something else... I'm going to make sure that they cover the costs. I'm just sick and tired of their BS! You'd think that after doing SO MANY GOD DAMN swaps, they would have most of this documented by now. I think I may have been the first (or second) and possibly the last 6th gen they've worked on, but still... their experience with SW's and 5th gen's should have them more prepared... so you would think. Anyway... I've been taking lots of pictures, saving every single freakin receipt, and documenting this whole process as much as I could. I plan on putting together a site with all the information... so that anyone that is interested in doing this swap will be much more prepared. I may also put together some documentation that I'll send to Coomer to post here. What I would like to do is put together something that others can modify/update since not all swaps are the same. Some do swaps from a ST185, and others do a ST205. Mine is a ST205 WRC... which is a LITTLE different from all you guys... but for the most part, everything else is closely similar. The only thing that I won't (due to lack of information) is wiring. I'm sure Mike has this information, BUT don't expect him to post this info. He runs a business based on this sacred info, and if I knew what he knew, I wouldn't document wiring either. But everything else, I'll be glad to share. Anyway... thanks everyone for the support. I'll continue to keep yallz posted. -Ray |
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Nov 26, 2003 - 1:58 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 10, '03 From South Central Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Dude, that's what i'm looking for. The solenoid . i guess i'll go check what toysport says. Although I already know that they are gonna piss me off. I HATE TOYSPORT. |
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Nov 26, 2003 - 6:03 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Yeah so do i but they were a last resort, and it was expensive, way expensive for what it is.
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Nov 26, 2003 - 7:44 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 15, '03 From NYC, Queens Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
props to kuya. imma b blunt. up to now i thought kuya was an ass. but now i know y he was aggressive when answering swap threads. good luck.
ps. i think it's very cool of u to prepare a thorough document on swappin. much appreciated. |
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Nov 26, 2003 - 9:28 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Everything is pretty much in except for the accelerator cable... that's all that left... then my extra aftermarket toys and eletronics... then PSSSSSSH! I'll probably drop by the junk yard on Friday...
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Nov 26, 2003 - 10:43 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 10, '03 From South Central Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
hey kuya, dont know if it might help or not, and i dont know how far you are from Sun Valley, but in Sun Valley, there's a dismantling yard that i went to last weekend, and they have a two celicas there. A celica ST, and a celica GT. both 94-99. If that's too far for you, or if you need to know the addi, just hit me up and i'll tell you where it is. If not, just hit me up and i wont mind going there to get you the cables. sphinx_race911@yahoo.com AIM = sphinxpcr -Pablo |
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Nov 29, 2003 - 10:34 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 9, '02 From Scranton, Pa Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
car downtime sucks... along with future swappers or turbocharging kid, downtime is nearly impossible, along with the quoted amount for kuya ($4000) i recommend getting a spare car. some kind of a beater to get you from point A to point B.. i didnt even get good luck with this, the sr20 nissan threw a rod right threw the block... just goes to show, be prepaired for the worse, and then some..
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Dec 1, 2003 - 11:59 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
VRRRROOOOOM VROOOOOM....
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Dec 2, 2003 - 12:31 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I guess no one understands... 
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Dec 2, 2003 - 12:37 PM
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Are you running??? If so great news, you must feel soo much better. |
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Dec 2, 2003 - 12:39 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Fo shizzle my nizzle...
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Dec 2, 2003 - 2:55 PM
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thats awesome kuya...i bet ur so happy!! when do we finally get to see some pics of the work of art???
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Dec 2, 2003 - 3:09 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Once my project is totally done... I'm going to put together a detailed site like Qatar with all the info and pictures for everyone's viewing pleasure... |
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Dec 2, 2003 - 11:40 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
If you wanna see some pics... read this thread... I decided today that I might as well get started on my diary for this project... so click HERE. |
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