ST drums to GT discs, Who's done it? I have a question |
ST drums to GT discs, Who's done it? I have a question |
Jan 9, 2011 - 6:16 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
I was talking to a brake guy about doing it, and he said that I'd have to do all this extra stuff that wasn't in the how-to to make it work. Like I'd have to get a brake booster from a GT, etc. Basically the whole GT braking system. So my question is, to my fellow ST guys, after installing the GT rear discs, has everything been well? Brakes performing perfectly? Because I'm going to do it in the near future.
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Jan 10, 2011 - 1:06 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
We don't drive hOndas, brake master is the same amongst the st and gt. Brake bias might change but only by a minute amount. Now by replacing the st front brakes with a gt setup bias will be the same as a gt.
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Jan 10, 2011 - 12:49 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 28, '09 From York pa Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
same as GT4 also
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Jan 10, 2011 - 2:45 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 From Northern kentucky Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (90%) |
basically use the rear hubs and ebrake lines and swap them out for the st stuff
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Jan 10, 2011 - 2:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
basically use the rear hubs and ebrake lines and swap them out for the st stuff I know that man. I know what to do, I've read the how-to several times. My question is if anyone has had any problems with braking performance or e-brake reliability. Things like that. -------------------- taking too long to mod since '09
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Jan 10, 2011 - 8:46 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 15, '10 From The Best Coast Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
What you HAVE TO HAVE:
Caliper Rotor backing plate ebrake hardware GT brake lines What you COULD have to make your life nicer: Gt ebrake cable(don't attempt to call me on this one as ive been running a moded ST cable for 6 months now) GT proportioning valve Ive been running GT front and rear brakes for a good 6 months now and i have to say it is an AWESOME mod. I did get the whole system for crazy cheap but i notice a BIG difference in the braking power, and i'm not sure if its the rear disks or the fronts.(i do have to say the front GT caliper looks like it could eat the ST caliper, as well as the rotor having a slightly larger diameter.) This post has been edited by SupraKid: Jan 10, 2011 - 8:50 PM |
Jan 10, 2011 - 10:05 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 19, '07 From tx Currently Offline Reputation: 22 (100%) |
If you wanna be thorough about it - change the proportioning valve like Suprakid said.
Other than that the systems are the same. If you REALLY wanna do it right - change the front calipers and rotors to GT This post has been edited by DEATH: Jan 11, 2011 - 8:43 AM -------------------- ENGINE: '93 RC 3S-GTE/WRC CT-20b [18-20PSI] PERF: TRD/HKS/ARP/NGK/MSD/ACT/Blitz/STRI/APEX'i/TwosRus/GReddy/Magnaflo/KOYO SUSP: Tein/Bilstein/SusTech/ INT: SS-III SEATS/Toyota Hyper Sports EXT: WRC/TRD/404 Its a safety feature so that people like you don't end up killing themselves or everyone around them. Slow down Paul Walker. 6GC Chat - Go there: [url="http://www.griffgirl.com/forum/chat/index.php[/url] |
Jan 11, 2011 - 12:00 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 6, '08 From Lisarow, NSW, Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Does anyone know any cheap places to buy proportioning valves?
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Jan 11, 2011 - 2:31 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
Does anyone know any cheap places to buy proportioning valves? Same And I guess I'll do all four then! I'll do it in the summer when I actually have money. -------------------- taking too long to mod since '09
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Jan 11, 2011 - 8:45 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 19, '07 From tx Currently Offline Reputation: 22 (100%) |
It'll work fine and be improved in the meantime. I'd check the parts houses [O'reilley's, Autozone etc] for a reman'd first. You might be surprised how cheap they are.
Otherwise - I have a full set of GT Brakes in my garage. Contact Ngofcukinway for pricing info. -------------------- ENGINE: '93 RC 3S-GTE/WRC CT-20b [18-20PSI] PERF: TRD/HKS/ARP/NGK/MSD/ACT/Blitz/STRI/APEX'i/TwosRus/GReddy/Magnaflo/KOYO SUSP: Tein/Bilstein/SusTech/ INT: SS-III SEATS/Toyota Hyper Sports EXT: WRC/TRD/404 Its a safety feature so that people like you don't end up killing themselves or everyone around them. Slow down Paul Walker. 6GC Chat - Go there: [url="http://www.griffgirl.com/forum/chat/index.php[/url] |
Jan 11, 2011 - 11:12 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
It'll work fine and be improved in the meantime. I'd check the parts houses [O'reilley's, Autozone etc] for a reman'd first. You might be surprised how cheap they are. Otherwise - I have a full set of GT Brakes in my garage. Contact Ngofcukinway for pricing info. Hopefully they're there in the summer because I don't wanna buy anything ahead of time just in case if I need the money since I'm away from home with no job since I'm going to school full time. -------------------- taking too long to mod since '09
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Jan 11, 2011 - 10:41 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 23, '08 From Muskego,Wi Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
if your short on cash just get a nice set of hawk hps brake pads for the front. Made braking for me quite better
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Jan 12, 2011 - 1:24 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
Can someone show me a comparison between the ST front rotor and caliper vs the GT front rotor and caliper?
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Jan 14, 2011 - 11:10 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 19, '07 From tx Currently Offline Reputation: 22 (100%) |
It'll work fine and be improved in the meantime. I'd check the parts houses [O'reilley's, Autozone etc] for a reman'd first. You might be surprised how cheap they are. Otherwise - I have a full set of GT Brakes in my garage. Contact Ngofcukinway for pricing info. Hopefully they're there in the summer because I don't wanna buy anything ahead of time just in case if I need the money since I'm away from home with no job since I'm going to school full time. No reason to think they wouldn't be - they've been there for a year now -------------------- ENGINE: '93 RC 3S-GTE/WRC CT-20b [18-20PSI] PERF: TRD/HKS/ARP/NGK/MSD/ACT/Blitz/STRI/APEX'i/TwosRus/GReddy/Magnaflo/KOYO SUSP: Tein/Bilstein/SusTech/ INT: SS-III SEATS/Toyota Hyper Sports EXT: WRC/TRD/404 Its a safety feature so that people like you don't end up killing themselves or everyone around them. Slow down Paul Walker. 6GC Chat - Go there: [url="http://www.griffgirl.com/forum/chat/index.php[/url] |
Jan 15, 2011 - 2:55 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 15, '10 From The Best Coast Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
Can someone show me a comparison between the ST front rotor and caliper vs the GT front rotor and caliper? Om nom nom nom little st caliper The gt rotor is roughly 1" bigger in radius. And a tiny bit wider,maybe a 1/8". (this picture is with the ST rotor sitting on the studs backwards to compare diameter) This post has been edited by SupraKid: Jan 16, 2011 - 12:25 AM |
Jan 30, 2011 - 10:53 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 From Northern kentucky Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (90%) |
Bump on this since i really dont want to start another thread, Where exactly is the proportioning valve at? and what does it do?
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Jan 30, 2011 - 11:28 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 15, '10 From The Best Coast Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
IIRC its attached to the master cylinder, id have to go look. It gives a certain % amount of pressure to the front/rear...On the ST the pressure in the rear is less than on the GT.
Just as a heads up tonight i got into a bit of a situation and the GT brakes saved my front end, im positive my ST brakes would not have(as ive had an accident) :\.. |
Jan 30, 2011 - 11:46 PM |
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No spilt Coke this time, Andrew?
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Jan 30, 2011 - 11:52 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 15, '10 From The Best Coast Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
No, more of a "holy **** how did my car just do that..."
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Jan 31, 2011 - 7:10 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '08 From Orlando, Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
IIRC its attached to the master cylinder, id have to go look. It gives a certain % amount of pressure to the front/rear...On the ST the pressure in the rear is less than on the GT. Just as a heads up tonight i got into a bit of a situation and the GT brakes saved my front end, im positive my ST brakes would not have(as ive had an accident) :\.. its on the firewall. Right side of this pic. pic courtesy of Manny... -------------------- ◊◊◊ My F/S Thread! ◊◊◊
QUOTE (14:19:21) Daniel: That was a JDM hole in the side of the box too. There was so much JDM trapped inside that box that they couldn't contain it, so they had to put a JDM hole in the box to let the JDM out. QUOTE Ferdi says (11:29) No, it looks like a hooker put her acid vag on your hood. Acid vag = bigger problem than a few dings. |
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