Someone help talk me into or out of this, GT4 Options

[johnyboy1976]

In the UK the price of GT4's is stupidly low at the moment - bloke off the owners club sold his very nice 97 car for £1900 !!!!

[delusionz]

can people import them in the uk from japan still?

[johnyboy1976]

Yes

[delusionz]

they introduced some law here a little while ago that only used cars built up to 10 years ago may be registered, they said so we had a safer fleet of cars on the road or some crap...


this meant that from 2008 (the last year u could import a 1998 model) the price of a gt4 went from $8000 up as u see around $12,000+ which is good for me i guess, i can see someone selling a stock white 1996 for 12k, at the time i bought it was only $9000. they are getting rare here now as 1 by 1 they are written off and scrapped

This post has been edited by delusionz: Jun 5, 2011 - 5:26 AM

[johnyboy1976]

Rising fuel costs , insurance and lack of knowledge have crippled prices in the UK
On release in the UK these cars were £30'000 and obviously need correct maintenance with quality lubes and oils
Because prices have become affordable over time young people see them as a alternative to the usual ****ty corsa's or crappy peaugot run around
But they buy without research so when the time comes for SS components or clutch / cam belt they cant afford it so sell on a dog of a car dirt cheap
This in turn makes good cars seem overpriced when they aint and so prices of all GT4's drop as a consequence
good ones will still fetch good money but the only people prepared to pay that are GT4 enthusiasts and most already have a car

This post has been edited by johnyboy1976: Jun 5, 2011 - 5:34 AM

[delusionz]

Same story over here, the cars were around $90,000 new

What I meant about overpriced was, the supply of GT4's here have gone down but the demand hasn't gone up, not many people want to pay a $12,000+ asking price on a high milage car that costed 8-9k 2 years ago and had alot less milage and was closer to being young. most gt4s for sale around here nowadays have racked up kms most in excess of 180,000kms and many over 200,000kms, most back then were barely hitting 160,000, there were many under 100,000km fine young examples.

[Dyran]

I like this one

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/...n-359233436.htm

but thats overpriced too

I drive past this gt-four pretty much every day, it's a nice example but I don't think anyone will pay the asking price.



The import law here in NZ is so stupid, because I really wanted a freshly imported gt4 with low ks when I decided I wanted one as I knew id be keeping it for some time. Most of the gt4s around now are high ks now with about 4 or 5 nz owners already. This is why the gt4 in the OP is so pricey I guess, nice looking car tho, great colour.

[Quidam]

Hi all.

I'm of the opinion that if you are an entusiast of this model of car then this is not overpriced (at 15k) especially given all the spare parts (new or otherwise) and the fact that no more are coming in to the country. The lowdown on the parts is that they mostly are new, and were purchased by the first owner because he got a great deal from Toyota Japan who were clearing stock.

btw I'm pretty certain that red 96 is actually a 94 and seems identical in specification to my current GT4.

And yeah, I am definately buying this car and and very excited about. The seller wasn't actually that keen on waiting too long for me to sell my 94 so I'm sucking it up and paying him the full amount up front. Now that I've decided to go that route I'm not actually sure I'll even will sell my 94. I can use it as my work-horse and keep the 97 as mint as possible -however, as a work horse I'd prefer something that drank less gas, so I probably will move it, just not in any big hurry.

What I don't really like is owning 3 cars -I only have a 2 car garage so my 94 is now at the bottom of the pecking order and will be without a roof over its head.

Confirmed it is a 94

This post has been edited by Quidam: Jun 6, 2011 - 12:25 AM

[PolliS_5S-FE]

and its de reg, a de reg'd gt4. what a waste

edit and its done virtually no km's in the past 3 years :\

This post has been edited by PolliS_5S-FE: Jun 6, 2011 - 12:47 AM

[Rusty]

I think its a pretty good deal $10,000 worth of parts and a GT4 for $15,000. Did he tell you if there was anything else that weren't on his list

did you get a check over of it? ie AA check, just to make sure no mishaps etc


yeah the other one is a 94, from the info you found, plus prefacelift rear lights and spoiler

[Quidam]

I think its a pretty good deal $10,000 worth of parts and a GT4 for $15,000. Did he tell you if there was anything else that weren't on his list

did you get a check over of it? ie AA check, just to make sure no mishaps etc


yeah the other one is a 94, from the info you found, plus prefacelift rear lights and spoiler

Hi Rusty,

Well I ended up having to fight a bit harder for this car. He was offered 3K for the turbo and 800 for the projectors, which meant he changed his mind on accepting 15K. So the choice was I pull out of the deal (at 15K) or I step up to 16K (which I decided to do) at which point he said he would also throw in an (indoor) car-cover. I could tell he felt pretty guilty about changing his mind, but then again it was nice dealing with someone who actually has a conscience, unlike nearly every car dealer I've ever had the misfortune to purchase a car off. Perhaps oddly, I've decided not to do an AA check -he did have a MTA check done on it before he bought it and the only negative was the fact that it did not have the original toolkit.

I also discussed with him whether I should keep or onsell the parts, and frankly, I think it would be short-sighted of me to sell them, as far as I'm concerned, they belong with the car and if for whatever reason I end up selling, I will also offer them as part of the deal (those parts I have not used -ie those projectors are going on as I think they add so much to the look of the car)

One thing I'm not sure about is the spoiler -keep as is or go WRC with riser-blocks?!?

This post has been edited by Quidam: Jun 6, 2011 - 10:25 PM

[PolliS_5S-FE]

although if you sold the parts for around 10k u'd pretty much have got the car and only spent 6k in total . Personally I like shorter spoilers than over the top riser ones but each to his own i guess

[Quidam]

although if you sold the parts for around 10k u'd pretty much have got the car and only spent 6k in total . Personally I like shorter spoilers than over the top riser ones but each to his own i guess

Yeah, I'll wait until I get it and then decide, I'm leaning towards leaving it as is. And I agree, with all those spare parts, it is easy to justify the price because if I wanted I could get so much of it back

[delusionz]

I dunno, I'm just being negative, it's an excellent example of a GT4 probably one of the best in NZ. But I really hate that spoiler, and I don't think highly of that turbo either (though with 2 of them you should be set for the life of that GT4)

:S

For little over the price of that turbo I just got a custom manifold, gt28rs ball bearing turbo, custom downpipe and custom intake, now whenever I blow turbos its $1800 to replace instead of 4k...

(not to mention the insane spoolup and power of this turbo hah)

This post has been edited by delusionz: Jun 7, 2011 - 3:54 AM

[delusionz]

Atleast the interior and bodywork is quite enviable

[wadeos]

That's one nice gtfour..
I would say keep the parts and install the projectors.
In my opinion i would say install a wrc wing on it, but everyone is different.

[Quidam]

Out of curioustity, how often do GT4's blow their turbo's?

[Dyran]

Out of curioustity, how often do GT4's blow their turbo's?

Someone told me not to expect too much more than 150,000ks at the most from the turbo, but of course it all depends on maintenance and stuff, Iv seen a gt4 still running its original turbo at over 200,000ks and had no issues .. My car now is at 126,000ks and still going strong

[Quidam]

Well payment has been made My bank account is looking very empty right now
Next steps are change of ownership; insurance; and then shipping my new baby down to Wellington.

I've decided to definately move my 94 GT4, I don't want two gas-guzzlers. So I'm thinking maybe an SSII/III or even a 7th gen celica?!?

[delusionz]

Haha yeah, Make sure it's a 1998+ model It's definitely fun to have both, SS-III can be more fun around the streets and it's alot easier to drive.

You;d start to notice the GT4 feels like a tank to get moving, and it feels more at home at high speeds when you also have a regular Celica to drive aswell.